Trash Talking why?

Trash Talking why?

Post by Joshua Po » Mon, 10 May 1993 16:08:59


We all know that trash talking is done to psych out the opponent, but
why does it seem that there is so much more of it going on than in the
past.  Is it more socially acceptable, or are plyers just realizing its
usefullness.  I personally think it has to do with expansion.  I see
there as being alot more parity among the players and among the teams now.  
WIth small differences in talent level a small edge (gained by talking)
can mean the difference between winning and losing.  I beleive that
this parity was caused by expansion, there is a pyramid of
talent, and when the talent level drops a small amount there are alot
of players at that same level.  ANy comments?

 
 
 

Trash Talking why?

Post by De Vaughn Elled » Mon, 10 May 1993 22:53:10


=>
=>We all know that trash talking is done to psych out the opponent, but
=>why does it seem that there is so much more of it going on than in the
=>past.  Is it more socially acceptable, or are plyers just realizing its
=>usefullness.  I personally think it has to do with expansion.  I see
=>there as being alot more parity among the players and among the teams now.  
=>WIth small differences in talent level a small edge (gained by talking)
=>can mean the difference between winning and losing.  I beleive that
=>this parity was caused by expansion, there is a pyramid of
=>talent, and when the talent level drops a small amount there are alot
=>of players at that same level.  ANy comments?

I think that the expansion theory is wack! Trash talking has been around as long
as the sport itself. I would say, since basketball has gotten away from the
pass the ball 50 times before you shoot mentality and moved to the realm above the rim the level of talent and intensity has increased. The style of defense
played has changed dramatically, since the old days, from the touch ***to the
very physical I.E. not letting anyone go to the hole. You either come to play
or go home to stay. Trash talking is done to psych out your opponent, its nothing
personal and has nothing to do with talent level, if a man that can barely jump
(Laimbeer) but can pull down more Rebounds than his opposing center and cause him
to get into foul trouble, just by talking to him! The opposing center doesn't need to be on the floor. Its not that he isn't talented, or because this year
they added some expansion teams, its because he has been taken out of his gameplan by the opponent. Trash talk gives a major advantage to one player over
another, but if the player is focused, the talking will have no effect and he
will make the talker eat his words. You should play street ball, and see whats
up!

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Trash Talking why?

Post by Anthony Minko » Tue, 11 May 1993 04:11:18

I imagine that gaining an edge is a small part of the reason behind
trash talking, but I also get the impression that the major reason
is that it's just fun.  Players talk trash because they like it.

Tony
--
"Off the expressway, over the river, off the billboard, through the
window, off the wall, nothing but net." -- Michael Jordan


 
 
 

Trash Talking why?

Post by Joshua Po » Tue, 11 May 1993 11:33:24



: =>
: =>We all know that trash talking is done to psych out the opponent, but
: =>why does it seem that there is so much more of it going on than in the
: =>past.  Is it more socially acceptable, or are plyers just realizing its
: =>usefullness.  I personally think it has to do with expansion.  I see
: =>there as being alot more parity among the players and among the teams now.  
: =>WIth small differences in talent level a small edge (gained by talking)
: =>can mean the difference between winning and losing.  I beleive that
: =>this parity was caused by expansion, there is a pyramid of
: =>talent, and when the talent level drops a small amount there are alot
: =>of players at that same level.  ANy comments?
:
: I think that the expansion theory is wack! Trash talking has been around as long
: as the sport itself. I would say, since basketball has gotten away from the
Maybe so, but it has increased alot lately.  I even heard Kevin McHale say
it in an interview.

: pass the ball 50 times before you shoot mentality and moved to the realm above the rim the level of talent and intensity has increased. The style of defense
: played has changed dramatically, since the old days, from the touch ***to the
: very physical I.E. not letting anyone go to the hole. You either come to play
: or go home to stay. Trash talking is done to psych out your opponent, its nothing
: personal and has nothing to do with talent level, if a man that can barely jump
: (Laimbeer) but can pull down more Rebounds than his opposing center and cause him
: to get into foul trouble, just by talking to him! The opposing center doesn't need to be on the floor. Its not that he isn't talented, or because this year
: they added some expansion teams, its because he has been taken out of his gameplan by the opponent. Trash talk gives a major advantage to one player over
: another, but if the player is focused, the talking will have no effect and he
: will make the talker eat his words. You should play street ball, and see whats
: up!

Oh I am sure you play like you just came out of one of those Reebok Commercials.

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I know that Trash Talking has been around a while.  But is has been happeneing
more lately.  If you do not know why, then why bother answering my question.

 
 
 

Trash Talking why?

Post by geoff d. sou » Tue, 11 May 1993 13:48:30

Quote:

>We all know that trash talking is done to psych out the opponent, but
>why does it seem that there is so much more of it going on than in the
>past.  Is it more socially acceptable, or are plyers just realizing its
>usefullness.  I personally think it has to do with expansion.  I see
>there as being alot more parity among the players and among the teams now.  
>WIth small differences in talent level a small edge (gained by talking)
>can mean the difference between winning and losing.  I beleive that
>this parity was caused by expansion, there is a pyramid of
>talent, and when the talent level drops a small amount there are alot
>of players at that same level.  ANy comments?

I think trash talking has been around for a long time in lots of sports.
True, it is a way of getting the opponent to lose his concentration or to
lose his 'zone'.  At any rate, the reason it seems like it has become
'socially acceptable' is probably because of "White Men Can't Jump."  That
movie simply made trash talking a marketable item.  The only thing i think
has happened is that society put a spot light on it.  
        It is a confidence thing, though.  It can pump you up and get the
other guy angry.  If he's angry, he's not concentrating on his game,
instead, he's concentrating on trying to prove you wrong- unless, like
Jordan, he uses it to pump himself up.  Trash talking is part of sports
and will be here for a long time.

Geoff Sovde
Western Washington University

 
 
 

Trash Talking why?

Post by De Vaughn Elled » Fri, 14 May 1993 06:32:52




=>: =>
=>: =>We all know that trash talking is done to psych out the opponent, but
=>: =>why does it seem that there is so much more of it going on than in the
=>: =>past.  Is it more socially acceptable, or are plyers just realizing its
=>: =>usefullness.  I personally think it has to do with expansion.  I see
=>: =>there as being alot more parity among the players and among the teams now.  
=>: =>WIth small differences in talent level a small edge (gained by talking)
=>: =>can mean the difference between winning and losing.  I beleive that
=>: =>this parity was caused by expansion, there is a pyramid of
=>: =>talent, and when the talent level drops a small amount there are alot
=>: =>of players at that same level.  ANy comments?
=>:
=>: I think that the expansion theory is wack! Trash talking has been around as long
=>: as the sport itself. I would say, since basketball has gotten away from the
=>Maybe so, but it has increased alot lately.  I even heard Kevin McHale say
=>it in an interview.
=>
=>: pass the ball 50 times before you shoot mentality and moved to the realm above the rim the level of talent and intensity has increased. The style of defense
=>: played has changed dramatically, since the old days, from the touch ***to the
=>: very physical I.E. not letting anyone go to the hole. You either come to play
=>: or go home to stay. Trash talking is done to psych out your opponent, its nothing
=>: personal and has nothing to do with talent level, if a man that can barely jump
=>: (Laimbeer) but can pull down more Rebounds than his opposing center and cause him
=>: to get into foul trouble, just by talking to him! The opposing center doesn't need to be on the floor. Its not that he isn't talented, or because this year
=>: they added some expansion teams, its because he has been taken out of his gameplan by the opponent. Trash talk gives a major advantage to one player over
=>: another, but if the player is focused, the talking will have no effect and he
=>: will make the talker eat his words. You should play street ball, and see whats
=>: up!
=>
=>Oh I am sure you play like you just came out of one of those Reebok Commercials.
=>
=>
=>:
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=>:                              - De Vaughn A. Elledge -

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=>:
=>:
=>:
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=>I know that Trash Talking has been around a while.  But is has been happeneing
=>more lately.  If you do not know why, then why bother answering my question.

I did answer your question! My conclusion was that since the level of intensity
and talent has increased and the overall style of how, Offensively and defensively, basketball is played, Above the Rim instead of off the Dribble. This
is why trash talking has been happening more lately. No only to the fact that the
media has centered on trash talking also but that wasn't included in my previous
post.

In reference to myself, don't judge my style of basketball until you've played
me. Then your are free to draw your own conclusions.

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