Where are the Taiwan Little Leaguers?

Where are the Taiwan Little Leaguers?

Post by Rob McLea » Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:00:00


    I'm watching a replay of the 1980 Little League World Series
final, which featured a team from Tampa, Florida. Tampa had a
couple of kids on their team named Derek Bell and Gary Sheffield,
both of whom of course later played in MLB. But they lost, 4-3,
to Taiwan.

    Teams from Taiwan have won six*** (count 'em) Little League
World Series titles over the years. So where are the players now?
Have any of them gone on to play professionally anywhere, in
Japan perhaps? (Taiwan does have their own professional league,
but it didn't start until this decade.) Will we be seeing future
major leaguers "Made in Taiwan"...?

        --RMc

 
 
 

Where are the Taiwan Little Leaguers?

Post by Bob Timmerman » Tue, 24 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Quote:



> >     I'm watching a replay of the 1980 Little League World Series
> > final, which featured a team from Tampa, Florida. Tampa had a
> > couple of kids on their team named Derek Bell and Gary Sheffield,
> > both of whom of course later played in MLB. But they lost, 4-3,
> > to Taiwan.

> Carney Lansford was also on a team the went to the Little League World
> Series, and was San Diego prospect Sean Burroughs.  I believe that
> Lansford's team won that time, and I know that Burroughs' team did.
> The same question, however (where are the players now?) can be asked of
> all of those teams that even got to Williamport.

> >     Teams from Taiwan have won six*** (count 'em) Little League
> > World Series titles over the years. So where are the players now?
> > Have any of them gone on to play professionally anywhere, in
> > Japan perhaps? (Taiwan does have their own professional league,
> > but it didn't start until this decade.) Will we be seeing future
> > major leaguers "Made in Taiwan"...?

> That might depend on the rules regarding Taiwanese baseball.  I don't
> mean the paying rules, but the free agency rules, etc.  Someone might
> know if they have a similar situation to that in Japan.  It might also
> be possible that they have a situation similar to that in Korea, in
> which all healthy males in a certain age group must serve in the Armed
> Forces.  I believe that the Dodgers and Park have a problem coming up
> because of that.

One of the Dodger's top prospects is Chin-Feng Chin (IIRC). He has already
served his time in the military. I've never heard if he played at
Williamsport. He looks like a pretty good hitter and if he progresses as
expected should be with the Dodgers in 2001.
As for Park, he was excused from his military duty with the Korean Army as a
reward for pitching Korea to the gold medal in the Asian Games.
The Dodgers signed another player from Taiwan who hasn't served his time in
the army and the Taiwanese aren't too pleased about that.

Taiwan sits out the LLWS now because the way the country divides up its
districts is not in accordance with LL policies. The Taiwanese drew their
players from areas that were too populous.
The Far East representative this year is from a section of Osaka.

 
 
 

Where are the Taiwan Little Leaguers?

Post by AhDouG » Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Several LL Champs have gone on to the Taiwan National Team and then to the
new pro leagues. I not sure if any of the Taiwanese players in Japan or the
player in the Dodgers farm system are from championship LL teams. Many of
those players stopped playing after elementary school when students have to
concentrate on schoolwork.(The Taiwan ed system is quite tough and
time-consuming.) The best players might go to physical education-major
vocational high schools (for want of a better term)and after graduating
become teachers etc. The new pro leagues have given them more opportunity to
continue playing and it is hoped that they can develop toward MLB level
skills.
Spear

 
 
 

Where are the Taiwan Little Leaguers?

Post by re.. » Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
>     I'm watching a replay of the 1980 Little League World Series
> final, which featured a team from Tampa, Florida. Tampa had a
> couple of kids on their team named Derek Bell and Gary Sheffield,
> both of whom of course later played in MLB. But they lost, 4-3,
> to Taiwan.

Carney Lansford was also on a team the went to the Little League World
Series, and was San Diego prospect Sean Burroughs.  I believe that
Lansford's team won that time, and I know that Burroughs' team did.
The same question, however (where are the players now?) can be asked of
all of those teams that even got to Williamport.

Quote:
>     Teams from Taiwan have won six*** (count 'em) Little League
> World Series titles over the years. So where are the players now?
> Have any of them gone on to play professionally anywhere, in
> Japan perhaps? (Taiwan does have their own professional league,
> but it didn't start until this decade.) Will we be seeing future
> major leaguers "Made in Taiwan"...?

That might depend on the rules regarding Taiwanese baseball.  I don't
mean the paying rules, but the free agency rules, etc.  Someone might
know if they have a similar situation to that in Japan.  It might also
be possible that they have a situation similar to that in Korea, in
which all healthy males in a certain age group must serve in the Armed
Forces.  I believe that the Dodgers and Park have a problem coming up
because of that.

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Post by MBS Kin » Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:00:00

<< It might also
be possible that they have a situation similar to that in Korea, in
which all healthy males in a certain age group must serve in the Armed
Forces.  I believe that the Dodgers and Park have a problem coming up
because of that.
 >>

If I remember correctly, Chan Ho Park and his Korean teammates recently got
their Armed Service requirement waived because of their victory in a tournament
in the last year.

 
 
 

Where are the Taiwan Little Leaguers?

Post by Nelson » Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>That might depend on the rules regarding Taiwanese baseball.  I don't
>mean the paying rules, but the free agency rules, etc.  Someone might
>know if they have a similar situation to that in Japan.  It might also
>be possible that they have a situation similar to that in Korea, in
>which all healthy males in a certain age group must serve in the Armed
>Forces.  I believe that the Dodgers and Park have a problem coming up
>because of that.

I don't know about the free agency rules in detail (other than that they're
pretty confusing), but the Taiwanese government does have conscription.  All
healthy males must serve for two years in the army sometime between the ages
of 18 and 30 -- the default is 19, I think, unless the man is attending
college, in which case he gets a deferral until he finishes college.

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Where are the Taiwan Little Leaguers?

Post by re.. » Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:00:00



Quote:




Quote:


> > >     I'm watching a replay of the 1980 Little League World Series
> > > final, which featured a team from Tampa, Florida. Tampa had a
> > > couple of kids on their team named Derek Bell and Gary Sheffield,
> > > both of whom of course later played in MLB. But they lost, 4-3,
> > > to Taiwan.

> > Carney Lansford was also on a team the went to the Little League
World
> > Series, and was San Diego prospect Sean Burroughs.  I believe that
> > Lansford's team won that time, and I know that Burroughs' team did.
> > The same question, however (where are the players now?) can be
asked of
> > all of those teams that even got to Williamport.

> > >     Teams from Taiwan have won six*** (count 'em) Little League
> > > World Series titles over the years. So where are the players now?
> > > Have any of them gone on to play professionally anywhere, in
> > > Japan perhaps? (Taiwan does have their own professional league,
> > > but it didn't start until this decade.) Will we be seeing future
> > > major leaguers "Made in Taiwan"...?

> > That might depend on the rules regarding Taiwanese baseball.  I
don't
> > mean the paying rules, but the free agency rules, etc.  Someone
might
> > know if they have a similar situation to that in Japan.  It might
also
> > be possible that they have a situation similar to that in Korea, in
> > which all healthy males in a certain age group must serve in the
Armed
> > Forces.  I believe that the Dodgers and Park have a problem coming
up
> > because of that.

> One of the Dodger's top prospects is Chin-Feng Chin (IIRC). He has
already
> served his time in the military. I've never heard if he played at
> Williamsport. He looks like a pretty good hitter and if he progresses
as
> expected should be with the Dodgers in 2001.
> As for Park, he was excused from his military duty with the Korean
Army as a
> reward for pitching Korea to the gold medal in the Asian Games.

Thanks, I had forgotten about that.  Howver, the problem still exists
for most Korean players who might otherwise be tempted to come to North
America to play.

Quote:
> The Dodgers signed another player from Taiwan who hasn't served his
time in
> the army and the Taiwanese aren't too pleased about that.

I wasn't certain if Taiwan had a similar rule or not.  I simply used my
general knowledge of the political situation (Taiwan vs China) as
being, at least on the surface,  somewhat similar to that of South
Korea.

Quote:

> Taiwan sits out the LLWS now because the way the country divides up
its
> districts is not in accordance with LL policies. The Taiwanese drew
their
> players from areas that were too populous.
> The Far East representative this year is from a section of Osaka.

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