The NATIONAL

The NATIONAL

Post by Chuq Von Rospa » Thu, 01 Feb 1990 07:43:37



Quote:
>Did anyone else catch the wire story out this morning detailing that the
>NATIONAL's "bedtime" was going to be BEFORE the west coast baseball games
>finished and therefore will NOT be carrying their boxscores!!!
>What disappointment!  Without all of the baseball scores, what good will
>this sports paper be during the summer.  What a letdown!
>The paper's owners described the West Coast scores as a RED HERRING and not
>that important.

That's the same kind of attitude that brought us endless variations of the
Mets and the Bosox on Saturday Baseball on NBC: if it's not New York or East
Coast it doesn't matter.

Well, it DOES matter to use folks on the West Coast...

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Post by Dana A. Bunn » Thu, 01 Feb 1990 05:35:35

Did anyone else catch the wire story out this morning detailing that the
NATIONAL's "bedtime" was going to be BEFORE the west coast baseball games
finished and therefore will NOT be carrying their boxscores!!!

What disappointment!  Without all of the baseball scores, what good will
this sports paper be during the summer.  What a letdown!

The paper's owners described the West Coast scores as a RED HERRING and not
that important.
Let's all boycott!

   Dana Bunner


 
 
 

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Post by Monty Mull » Thu, 01 Feb 1990 13:49:41

well, if the national doesn't include west coast scores, it will
probably just become a supplement to the USA today, something like the
sporting news.  i can't imagine buying a paper everyday (other than
the NY times, which i buy for the news) in the summer that doesn't
have west coast box scores.  it simply won't cut it.  i imagine that
this will become evident to the editors of the national rather soon
after the season starts and they'll mend their ways.

--monty

 
 
 

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Post by David M Ta » Thu, 01 Feb 1990 23:06:33


Quote:

>That's the same kind of attitude that brought us endless variations of the
>Mets and the Bosox on Saturday Baseball on NBC: if it's not New York or East
>Coast it doesn't matter.

>Well, it DOES matter to use folks on the West Coast...

And to many of us in the East.

Living in NY State, the only teams I could get local coverage of were the Mets
and the Yankees.  I am, well, "disenamored" of both teams, but it was a chance
to see teams I *do* like on a rotating basis, as long as I could stomach Tim
McCarver/Steve Zabriskie (Kiner was kinda fun) or Phil ("Hey Scooter--how come
you're not in the Hall of Fame?") Rizzuto.

And then would come The Game of the Week, every Saturday, and I tune in to see
some *real* baseball, with *real* announcers, and get... the Mets.  If I was
very very unlucky, it would be Mets vs. Dodgers, with Vin Scully calling the
game (for the Dodgers).  *sigh*.

If Texas played Atlanta in the World Series, the Networks might show wrestling
instead.

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Post by carl brenn » Fri, 02 Feb 1990 00:56:45


Quote:
> Did anyone else catch the wire story out this morning detailing that the
> NATIONAL's "bedtime" was going to be BEFORE the west coast baseball games
> finished and therefore will NOT be carrying their boxscores!!!

> What disappointment!  Without all of the baseball scores, what good will
> this sports paper be during the summer.  What a letdown!

        I agree. What a joke. What I don't understand is why they feel the
paper has to be a morning publication. I don't know how others feel, but I
would be perfectly willing to wait until the afternoon to get my sports fix if
it meant I could also get good coverage of West Coast action. It's not as if
the NATIONAL has to compete with the NY Times as far as coverage of the
general (non-sports) news. And for them to call this issue a "red herring" is
either stupid or wishful thinking, or both.

Quote:
>    Dana Bunner


Carl Brenner
 
 
 

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Post by Randy Peppl » Fri, 02 Feb 1990 04:29:45

Quote:


>> Did anyone else catch the wire story out this morning detailing that the
>> NATIONAL's "bedtime" was going to be BEFORE the west coast baseball games
>> finished and therefore will NOT be carrying their boxscores!!!

>> What disappointment!  Without all of the baseball scores, what good will
>> this sports paper be during the summer.  What a letdown!

>    I agree. What a joke. What I don't understand is why they feel the
>paper has to be a morning publication. I don't know how others feel, but I
>would be perfectly willing to wait until the afternoon to get my sports fix if
>it meant I could also get good coverage of West Coast action. It's not as if
>the NATIONAL has to compete with the NY Times as far as coverage of the
>general (non-sports) news. And for them to call this issue a "red herring" is
>either stupid or wishful thinking, or both.

        I agree with the sentiments above too, but don't worry.  Once
        The National is distributed more widely, I bet they will get
        their act together.  They won't be competitive with USA Today's
        Section C otherwise...  (Deford isn't stupid.  At least he
        doesn't appear to be.... ;-).
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Post by Jason Rosenbe » Fri, 02 Feb 1990 14:39:49

Well, I bought the inaugural edition of the NATIONAL.  It looks good to me.
I'm sure I won't have time to read it everyday.  

The edition I bought seemed to be an LA edition, not 100% NATIONAL.  It had
special sections entitled "LA Beat" with local coverage, and even a local
columnist.  The ads were also local, like season ticket orders for teh
Dodgers.  This is encouraging to me, since it seems likely that at least
out here we will be able to get the box scores of all the late games, much
the same as we do in the USA Today.  It had a full page story replete with
a thorough box score of last nights "late" Lakers-Clippers game.  Do you
usually get late basketball boxes back there in the Eastern Tundra?

Anyway, the first place I went sold their first 500 copies in about an hour,
so it seems there is tremendous interest.  After the novelty wears off, we'll
see how they do.  

So far, you can only get home delivery in the New York City area, but you
can get a 1-year subscription (via mail) for $187.50.

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Post by The Manic Tink » Fri, 02 Feb 1990 04:12:09


[stuff about national TV coverage]

Quote:
> If Texas played Atlanta in the World Series, the Networks might show wrestling
> instead.

More likely they would have on the spot reporting from the afterworld,
with science commentators speculating on the spectacular temperature
plunge, from hundreds of degrees to less than freezing.  "Rangers meet
Braves in World Series!  Dow Jones Plummets!"
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Post by Scott Barm » Thu, 08 Feb 1990 00:06:21

Quote:


>> [about the National not going to have Left Coast box scores]

>    I agree. What a joke. What I don't understand is why they feel the
>paper has to be a morning publication. I don't know how others feel, but I
>would be perfectly willing to wait until the afternoon to get my sports fix if
>it meant I could also get good coverage of West Coast action. It's not as if
>the NATIONAL has to compete with the NY Times as far as coverage of the
>general (non-sports) news. And for them to call this issue a "red herring" is
>either stupid or wishful thinking, or both.

No, they have to compete with the Daily News, Newsday, and Post.  They
are competing for the like of people like me who commutes everyday and
will stop at the newsstand at the train station (LIRR in my case) and
pick up The National instead of one of the dailies.

Personally, I am going to stop buying it.  It gives no more information
than the dailies.  In fact, the dailies give more on local teams!  I
know they said they were going to "personalize" it for each area, but
when the Bulls get the same amount of space as the Knicks and the Kings
as either the Islanders or Rangers, it is not worth it.  I only bought
the Daily News this morning and I do not think I will buy The National
on the way home.  It's just not worth the 50-cents.  When I want a more
national view of sports, I think I will still turn to the USA Today!

IMHO, of course!

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Post by Skit » Thu, 01 Mar 1990 04:38:04

Hey, does anyone out there know where I can acquire copies of the
National in the Morristown, NJ, area?  If so, e-mail me and let me
know.  Thanks in advance.
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