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 The Red Sox just (11:30 am in Boston) announced this trade with the Reds:

 Sox send:

 Tom Bolton

 Reds send:

 Billy Hatcher

  Reds get more pitching - Sox get a centerfielder. Sounds decent for both
  teams.

-Ron

 -Steve
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Bolton has allowed 32 hits and 14 BB in 26 IP.  This is good?  Lefties
are batting .344 against him.  Righties are hitting only .273.
Overall, batters are hitting .294 off of him with a .384 OBP!!!!!  Wow.
If only the Red Sox had *anybody* who could hit like that!

Oh, you must have meant Bolton was good *last* year.  Right?
Lessee...  Last year opponents smoked him for 187 baserunners in 110
innings.  Toss in *16* HR.  In 110 IP.  A .308 batting average, .378
OBP, and .485 SLG.  Bolton is NOT good.  Bolton is at *best* adequate.

Or maybe you meant that except for the last two years, Bolton has been
good?  Career 4.54 ERA...  386 H in 339 IP with 149 BB coming into this
year!!!

Shit, he wasn't even a particularly good pitcher in 1990!

Anybody who thinks that Bolton is better than Hatcher has their head
up their ass (and that includes the Cincinnati GM).  Hatcher is an
average fourth OF.  Bolton sucks septic tanks!

Thank God he's gone!
-Valentine
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  Ron>  The Red Sox just (11:30 am in Boston) announced this trade
  Ron> with the Reds:

  Ron>  Sox send:
  Ron>  Tom Bolton

  Ron>  Reds send:
  Ron>  Billy Hatcher
  Ron>  
  Ron>   Reds get more pitching - Sox get a centerfielder. Sounds
  Ron> decent for both teams.

  Ron> -Ron

I don't mind too much losing Tom Bolton, but what did we get in
return?  Is he going to do any better than say Bob Zupic?  Anyone have
any numbers on the guy?

Thanks!

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The Mariner's GM, Woody Woodward, has been saying for the entire
season that there aren't any players available for trades.
And everyone else keeps making trades.  Hmmm...

Anyway, Woodward said yesterday that the only untouchable players
on the M's are Ken Griffey, Jr. and Edgar Martinez.
I'm not sure who would want any of the others, but we
remain hopeful.

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        Wisdom was not at the top of the graduate-school,
                mountain but there in thesandpile at Sunday School.

Bolton has a few more years than Hatcher, you say.  Why?  Hatcher is
31, born on 10/04/60, and has a relatively healthy history.  Bolton is
30, born on 05/06/62, has a long history of arm problems due to his
trick delivery.

You seem to think Bolton has been effective.  I suggest you review the
evidence.  Look back to his 19 starts last year (with a 5+ ERA).
Consider the large numbers of hits he has allowed in relief this year.
Bolton is a better pitcher than I am, as you point out, but not by
enough to justify the waste of a roster space.  And that goes double
for Matt Young!  (And I wouldn't be *so* hurt to see Darwin go either,
though he at least is *occasionally* effective.)

-Valentine
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  bert
  -diehard sox fan (red that is)

Hey!  What's this argument all about?  We were lucky to get anything for Bolton,
let alone Billy Hatcher.

This so-called argument will be settled within a few weeks when Bolton starts
pissing off all of you Reds fans.

|> I wonder if there is an rule here on offensive language? If so, I'd like
|> to know the limitations. Hatcher is pretty much an overrated player in
|> my book. I seriously doubt his effectiveness in defense, but he's been
|> ripping the ball in his first couple of starts. I just hope he isnt a flash
|> in the pan, or I'll be laughing my ass all the way to Heaven on your load
|> of unbelievable horse-carping.

Can I use this in my .sig file?

|>  
|> > Bolton has a few more years than Hatcher, you say.  Why?  Hatcher is
|> > 31, born on 10/04/60, and has a relatively healthy history.  Bolton is
|> > 30, born on 05/06/62, has a long history of arm problems due to his
|> > trick delivery.
|>
|>  And the fact is, Hatcher is injury-prone, I believe, but my facts on him
|> aren't as long-winded as yours.
|>  
|> > Get your facts straight.  Please!  *19* of his 25 appearances last
|> > year were starts.  He was horrible.  He wasn't even adequate.
|> > Admittedly he has been pitching mop-up this year.  But isn't that
|> > what you generally do with pitchers who repeatedly pitch their way
|> > out of the rotation?

...and Bolton has been given *plenty* of chances in his 3-4 year career with the
BoSox.

|>
|> Why couldnt they just dump Clark? Bolton is worth more for his contract
|> than Clark ever was on his contract.

That goes without saying.  The need, however is for hitting, not pitching for
the Red Sox this year (oddly enough)  They've tried to dump Clark's contract
several times, but there are no takers.

Is this a die hard Tom Bolton fan or what?  I've never heard him defended so
vigorously.  I was willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt in his first
couple of years, but he's had plenty of chances to prove himself with Boston.

This trade was a good one.  Even Minnie Minoso could help the Red Sox
offensively this year, so the Hatcher acquisition is a pretty good one.

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Clark was only the second-best offensive player the Sox had last year
(third-best if you count Plantier, who only played a third of a season).
From 1988 to 1990 he'd averaged 26 HR, 72 R, and 83 RBI.
In 1991, he gave the Sox........28 HR, 75 R, and 87 RBI.  How was Clark
a letdown?  Looks like they got just about precisely what they could expect
from a 35-year old.
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Hmm, I believe my facts were based on this year, dude. try again.

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