Royals vs A's and Mets

Royals vs A's and Mets

Post by Stephen David Ung » Fri, 23 Mar 1990 02:42:19



Quote:
(Patrick T Dicaprio) writes:
>Glad to see all of the support for the Royals.  I think this is the year
>for them.
>As Tim said, position by position they match up surprisingly well.
>Their pitching is only rivalled by the Mets and even then it is not so
>clear cut:

>Gubicza vs Gooden
>Saberhagen vs Fernandez
>Gordon vs Viola
>Davis vs Darling

>Except for the Gordon vs Viola matchup the Royals compare better than
>the Mets.  I think that Gubicza and Saberhagen are both better than
>Gooden and Fernandez although that is certainly a judgement call.  

And I assume that this means that the no-names like David Cone and Bob Ojeda
won''t be pitching this year?  Granted that Ojeda didn't have a good year last
year and will probably be in the bullpen for most of the year, but Cone will
be either their number 3 or 4 pitcher.  Even if you say that Gubicza and
Saberhagen are better than Gooden and Fernandez (which I don't believe), you
have the matchups of Gordon vs. Cone and Davis vs. Viola.  And after this, who
do the Royals have to put up against Darling?

--

-Steve

 
 
 

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Post by michael j yalk » Wed, 04 Apr 1990 20:23:23


(Stephen David Ungar) says:

Quote:


>(Patrick T Dicaprio) writes:
>>Glad to see all of the support for the Royals.  I think this is the year
>>for them.
>>As Tim said, position by position they match up surprisingly well.
>>Their pitching is only rivalled by the Mets and even then it is not so
>>clear cut:

>>Gubicza vs Gooden
>>Saberhagen vs Fernandez
>>Gordon vs Viola
>>Davis vs Darling

>>Except for the Gordon vs Viola matchup the Royals compare better than
>>the Mets.  I think that Gubicza and Saberhagen are both better than
>>Gooden and Fernandez although that is certainly a judgement call.

>And I assume that this means that the no-names like David Cone and Bob Ojeda
>won''t be pitching this year?

You must consider that Royal fans try to forget the name of David Cone.  Where
is Ed Hearn these days, guys?

Michael J Yalkut

 
 
 

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Post by sc.. » Thu, 05 Apr 1990 00:50:40


Quote:
> You must consider that Royal fans try to forget the name of David Cone.  Where
> is Ed Hearn these days, guys?

Hard to forget a guy the Royals traded and becomes a good
pitcher.  

I'm a Royals-Cubs fan, but not an avid one.  So I don't
even know who KC got for Cone.  I don't know where Ed
Hearn is at.
--

(uucp: ...!rutgers!ksuvax1!mccall!scott)  615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041    Manhattan, KS 66502, USA

 
 
 

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Post by Mike Shephe » Thu, 05 Apr 1990 05:56:23


Quote:

>You must consider that Royal fans try to forget the name of David Cone.  Where
>is Ed Hearn these days, guys?

        The Royals finally released him, thereby admitting that it was one of
the worst trades in baseball history.  They also released Terry Leach...Thank
GOD!  That guy was just hurting the club.  They also released Brad Wellman
I believe.

-Mike

 
 
 

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Post by Kenneth Hu » Thu, 05 Apr 1990 21:29:20


Quote:

>(Stephen David Ungar) says:


>>(Patrick T Dicaprio) writes:
>>>Glad to see all of the support for the Royals.  I think this is the year
>>>for them.
>>>As Tim said, position by position they match up surprisingly well.
>>>Their pitching is only rivalled by the Mets and even then it is not so
>>>clear cut:

>>>Gubicza vs Gooden
>>>Saberhagen vs Fernandez
>>>Gordon vs Viola
>>>Davis vs Darling

>>>Except for the Gordon vs Viola matchup the Royals compare better than
>>>the Mets.  I think that Gubicza and Saberhagen are both better than
>>>Gooden and Fernandez although that is certainly a judgement call.

>>And I assume that this means that the no-names like David Cone and Bob Ojeda
>>won''t be pitching this year?

>You must consider that Royal fans try to forget the name of David Cone.  
>Where is Ed Hearn these days, guys?

 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Quote:
>Michael J Yalkut

Good point!  Although I'm an avid Royals fan, this is one trade that
really sucked.  Ed Hearn was cut (waived?) on Monday from what I saw
in the newspaper.  For a team loaded with pitching talent, the Royals
have really traded away a bunch of good pitchers - D. Cone is a great
example, and have gotten nothing in return.  I still remember Whitey
Herzog commenting on how stupid this trade was when it happened.
Everyone - *everyone* knew that Ed Hearn was damamged goods before the
trade was made, and still K.C. made it!

Other pitchers the Royals have traded away and beats me what they
received in return:  Scott Bankhead - Seattle;  ???? Perez - Chicago
White Sox (Banister maybe, who is no longer with the team).  But,
thats baseball!

 
 
 

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Post by Karen Collins Dav » Fri, 06 Apr 1990 02:07:26

Quote:

>Other pitchers the Royals have traded away and beats me what they
>received in return:  Scott Bankhead - Seattle

They got some nobody named Danny Tartabull.

Bob Davis                    Larry Walker = 1990 NL Rookie of the Year

 
 
 

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Post by Jeffery Bro » Fri, 06 Apr 1990 05:48:27

Quote:

>Other pitchers the Royals have traded away and beats me what they
>received in return:  Scott Bankhead - Seattle;  ????

...

Bankhead I think came over in the trade for Danny Tartabull.  At the time
I wasn't happy with that trade -- Bankhead spent a lot of time on the DL,
and Tartabull hit very in KC (though I don't know if he's ever learned to
field, which he sure couldn't while he was with the Mariners).  If Bankhead
can stay healthy and continue to do what he did last year, then maybe the
M's got a decent deal after all.  I thought it was just another typical
Argyros move, i.e., "The Seattle Mariners are pleased to announce that they
have traded $150,000 in cash to <your name here> for $50,000 in cash."
Or as Jim Kern once said about Cleveland, the first thing they do when they
find out you have some talent is trade you for three guys who don't.

--


U. of Washington

 
 
 

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Post by Bruce Rode » Sat, 07 Apr 1990 01:47:16

Quote:

> Other pitchers the Royals have traded away and beats me what they
> received in return:  Scott Bankhead - Seattle;  ???? Perez - Chicago
> White Sox (Banister maybe, who is no longer with the team).  But,
> thats baseball!

The Royals got Danny Tartabull in the deal that sent Scott Bankhead and
outfielder Mike Kingery (?) to Seattle.  They were looking for someone
to bat behind Brett and he has done pretty well overall for the Royals.

Go Royals!!!

Bruce Rodean

 
 
 

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Post by Sacramento Kings F » Fri, 06 Apr 1990 14:50:52

I have until Thursday, April 5, midnight, to complete a pre-season
rotisserie trade for Luis Aquino (Kansas City pitcher).  I haven't
heard much about their spring, and I was just wondering what role
is planned for him.  Is he in their starting rotation?  

The next 2 aren't as urgent:
Also, is Lance Blankenship going to start at 2nd for the A's?

One more thing.  How is Mike Fetters doing with California? Will he
be at the major league level this year?

Thank you very much,
Joe Moore, UCSD student  (74 more days)

 
 
 

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Post by David A. Ellio » Sat, 07 Apr 1990 04:44:28

Quote:

>>You must consider that Royal fans try to forget the name of David Cone.  
>>Where is Ed Hearn these days, guys?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Good point!  Although I'm an avid Royals fan, this is one trade that
>really sucked.  Ed Hearn was cut (waived?) on Monday from what I saw
>in the newspaper.  For a team loaded with pitching talent, the Royals
>have really traded away a bunch of good pitchers - D. Cone is a great
>example, and have gotten nothing in return.  I still remember Whitey
>Herzog commenting on how stupid this trade was when it happened.
>Everyone - *everyone* knew that Ed Hearn was damamged goods before the
>trade was made, and still K.C. made it!

I never heard this.  Hearn was run over at home plate about 6 games into the
87 season, and his throwing shoulder was torn up (anyone remember Ray
Fosse?).  He had surgery and a long comeback attempt, but just didn't make it.

At the time, Cone was hardly a proven talent.  The Royals gambled that he
would remain a AAA caliber pitcher (he had spent 2 years at Omaha prior to
the trade), and they lost.

Quote:
>Other pitchers the Royals have traded away and beats me what they
>received in return:  Scott Bankhead - Seattle;  ???? Perez - Chicago
>White Sox (Banister maybe, who is no longer with the team).

Bankhead went to Seattle along with Mike Kingery for Danny Tartabull.  I'd
say this trade has worked out for the Royals.  Perez and a couple of other
pitchers went to the White Sox for Bannister.  This trade wasn't so hot.

The Royals also traded (the much-maligned on the net) Atlee Hammaker and
Renie Martin for Vida Blue a few years back.  Blue was a total failure as a
Royal.  The Bud Black for Pat Tabler trade has the look of a loser also,
especially when you consider that the Royals may open the season with 5
right handers in their rotation.