Alright, you had to know this was going to***someone off, and it looks
like I'm the first customer...
>The Red Sox brass doesn't have a clue. They have no plan. They thought for
>sure that many players would knock down their door for a chance to play in
That is complete and utter nonsense...you are stating that an organization
with two of the best young players in the game signed for extended contracts
at relatively low salaries, given the current state of things, and little
money commited anywhere else, and a farm system consistently rated as among
the top 5 in baseball much higher than that by some, has no plan... I'd say
that is a significantly better plan than spending 80 million dollars on a 31
year old, overweight DH-waiting-to-happen in a year when you cannot
realistically expect to win your DIVISION, much less a WS...why would they
expect FAs to be knocking down their doors? FAs go where the money is, and
they did not offer any but Bernie real money, and that situation was out of
>Imagine their surprise when no one was interested. Bernie Williams
>may have been, but there was no way George was going to allow that to
They made a great effort to sign the only Free agent available who has a
chance at playing out his contract at a reasonable level of performance - OK
maybe Belle does, too... in my opinion, more of a chance than Bernie, but
there are other reasons not to like Belle, I don't agree with those reasons,
but they are there and you could see why it was a concern...
>Dan Duquette tells fans to login to the Red Sox web page for the inside
>and all the latest information about the team. There's no fact on that
>just propaganda. Have any of you ever heard Duquette talk. He says this
>be a fun team for the fans to watch and that we will really love Jose
>Offerman. I lke the guy and I am glad the Sox signed him.
He is doing his JOB. THese statements are exactly like the statements every
GM makes every year
>He was signed for
>too much money and he will not come near filling the void that Mo left. And
>that void is a lot more than replacing the numbers.
Offerman is a decent leadoff hitter who was signed at slightly above the
going rate for decent leadoff hitters...I agree he will be overpaid, but he
is by no means supposed to be Mo's replacement, just a piece of the puzzle
that is a succesful team...his numbers over the past four years have been
consistently above average for leadoff hitters in the majors, and last year
he was borderline excellent...
The other thing Duquette
>has been saying since he arrived is that the team will be competitive.
>year the teams mission is to field a competitive team. You never hear him
>talk about winning the World Series or winning the championship. Its always
>about fielding a competitive team. On the few occassions that he mentions
>World Series he says they would LIKE TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES. He never says
>that we are striving to win or that we want to field a World Series caliber
>team. NO! They want to field a competitive team. All the other big market
>teams talk about winning the World Series. They don't say they would like
>win it, they WANT to win it. The Sox don't.
THey don't say that because they have not fielded a team that they felt
could win the world series in a while...they had good seasons in '95 and in
'98, but that is all they were, good seasons...you did not see management
panic and trade away the whole system to get that 'last piece' for the
stretch drive because they realize that that would be foolish, because they
have not had a team that was one, or two, pieces away from a title in the
past few years...THe sox management sets realistic goals and does not jump
foolishly just because the team is playing above it's head for a year...Do
you think Houston is glad it traded for Johnson this year? Or, more
accurately, should they be glad? No, because he got them nowhere, and there
is no one that would have, because the Yankees were head and shoulders above
EVERY OTHER TEAM this year, the rest were just playing to be the first
>The front office is not committed
>to it. They know that they have a captive fan base who are desperate for a
>winner and will come to the park by the droves as long as they appear to be
>in a race.
They are called fans...real fans who like to watch baseball, not just world
>Well, this years addition will be out of contention by the end of
Maybe so, but do you really think they would have been in contention if they
had signed any TWO free agents? THe Yankees are better than them at EVERY
position...except SS and Ace, which are not HUGE differences, and closer is
real close, myself I'd take Rivera over Gordon in the long haul, but I could
be wrong...a team cannot make up for that in one offseason, no matter how
much money you go out and spend
>To add insult to injury, Mo may lead the charge to kill this team by
>leading a 3 game sweep the weekend of May 7. Old Fenway will be packed that
>weekend and the majority will be rooting for Mo because we know the Sox
>didn't want Mo and Mo took the money after it became apparent that the Sox
>weren't serious about re-signing him.
THe Red Sox offered mo Vaughn exactly what he said he would sign for...would
you pay him for six years, as a fantasy baseball owner?
>The only way the Sox can improve is by trading away their best prospects
because they have no one on the major
>league level that has any value that they can part with. They can't trade
>Nomar, Gordon, and Martinez. They really can't afford to trade Saberhagen
>Wakefield. Their most valuable commodities are Valentin and Lowe with Lowe
>being the player teams are looking for. Who else can they trade?
What are you trying to say, I'm not sure I follow...You are saying that they
do not have anyone on the major league roster to trade, but then you go on
to name several. I really doubt that they will trade any of these players,
with the possible exception of Gordon, or Saberhagen if the right offer were
to come around... Nomar and Martinez are extremely valuable because they
are young and signed for long term deals...No trade there... Wakefield is a
good contrast to Pedro on consecutive days, plus he can pitch almost
unlimited innings, a good guy to have around... Valentin's trade value is
low because he had a subpar year in the more glamorous categories... Lowe
is a YOUNG power pitcher who had a great year as a reliver, but struggled as
a starter(relief appearances - 2.88 ERA, 1.19 WHIP) and has nowhere to go
but up... Gordon and Sabes are expendable because they are overvalued
because of good years and aging quickly...A good closer or a reliable
starter will always bring a good price come August, and I imagine that DD is
thinking that very thing for this season...so I don't really know what you
are trying to say...I doubt that the Sox will part with much of the minor
league system any time soon, either, they have made acommitment to player
development since DD has been in Boston, and they are just getting close to
reaping some of the benefits...the only major prospect that they have given
up in the past few years is Pavano, who was neccesary to land Pedro...I
think that was a pretty easy decision, don't you?
>Stanley, Lewis, Buford. What can the Sox expect to receive in return fot
>likes of these guys? Not much.
No argument here.
>And to top it all off, those idiots have told
>the City of Boston that they will no longer permit the peanut, sausage or
>other vendor to conduct their business on the streets adjacent to the park
>citing health and safety concerns.
They have resolved this by closing off Yawkey way on gamedays, allowing the
vendors to safely serve the public as they always have
> Who's kidding who here. And to make
>matters worse for me is that Fenway is a block form my office. I am
>of this horror Monday through Friday.
My problem with this whole 'the sky is falling' attitude is simply that many
are criticising this team for not spending 60-100 million dollars on any one
of a free agent class who are all on the downside of the aging curve and all
were signed for 5+ years...we as fantasy baseball players know that this is
smart, not 'a horror' would you trade all of your prospects for Kevin Brown
in a year when you were 20 points out of the money? that simply does not
make sense, You make stupid, rash moves when you are very close to winning
it all, not when all that foolishness is going to get you is from fifth
place to fourth... The Red Sox had the second best record in the AL this
year, but I think we all look at that lineup and see a team that should have
finished about 6th or 7th in the league in wins... the fact that they were
a playoff team this year does not mean that they are close to being a real
contender, and a spending spree is not going to help things any, only
patience and good player development will...
Now that I have gotten myself all
>worked up, I need to go blow off some steam. Its Christmas Eve and I've
>wrote myself out of the Christmas spirit. Let me try to reverse that by
>wishing everyone a safe and happy holiday. May Santa bring you a Mo Vaughn
>and a Kevin Brown for your roto team.
I'd prefer if he had Pedro and Nomar somewhere in that Fantasy Sack...Happy
holidays. Criticisms to any of my thoughts welcome, but let's all remember
it's the holidays, so make the criticisms reasonable, not simply trolling...