Thugs and double standards

Thugs and double standards

Post by Joe Gill » Sat, 15 Jun 1991 05:01:11


Quote:
Eric writes:
>Does anyone know what Charles Barkley thinks about the thuggish and
>un-sportsmanly play of the Pistons in game 4 of the eastern conference finals?

>Or is he too busy having his face emblazoned on Nike t-shirts to care?

>If I were him, I'd be thinking about how my days are numbered in the NBA.
>Maybe he was so congratulatory to Jordan (after they lost to the Bulls)
>because he was afraid of what will come?

>What's worse: pushing someone out of bounds (ala' Rodman v. Pippen or Lakers v.
>Portland) or spitting on a little girl? Or which has more to do with the game
>of basketball?

As I've said before, Charles was born to be a Piston!  (Oh please God, yes,
please, please, please.  PLEEEZE make Harold Katz send Charles to Detroit!)
 
 
 

Thugs and double standards

Post by Joe Gill » Sat, 15 Jun 1991 05:02:38

Oh please please God please!  The fans in Detroit don't even mind
getting spit on!  Please!

 
 
 

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Post by Dale Cha » Sat, 15 Jun 1991 07:05:37

Quote:

>I've gotten an inquiry already as to the shoving out-of-bounds in the Portland
>v. Lakers games. I only saw one of two shoves in the last game.

>If anyone knows excactly who shoved who, which quarter it was etc., please post
>the info.

I just recall one flagrant foul called on Perkins when he hit Ainge
with his body on a layup.  That call, as well as the two flagrants
called in The Finals all seemed highly questionable.  But thanks to
the Pisstons contribution to basketball, the refs feel the need to
err on the side of overcalling.

Quote:
>ANOTHER POINT about double standards...
>In the same game after the final buzzer, Magic RAN off the court toward
>the locker room (away from Portland's bench) and didn't shake ANYBODY'S hand
>I haven't heard anyone say he was a sore winner.

This is just dumb.  When hundreds of people are about to mob the
floor, you don't want to hang around.  Magic later found Michael, gave
him a big hug.

--
<>Dale
Looks like another perfect day....... I love LA!

 
 
 

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Post by EIVE.. » Sat, 15 Jun 1991 03:14:29

Does anyone know what Charles Barkley thinks about the thuggish and
un-sportsmanly play of the Pistons in game 4 of the eastern conference finals?

Or is he too busy having his face emblazoned on Nike t-shirts to care?

If I were him, I'd be thinking about how my days are numbered in the NBA.
Maybe he was so congratulatory to Jordan (after they lost to the Bulls)
because he was afraid of what will come?

What's worse: pushing someone out of bounds (ala' Rodman v. Pippen or Lakers v.
Portland) or spitting on a little girl? Or which has more to do with the game
of basketball?

--Eric

 
 
 

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Post by EIVE.. » Sat, 15 Jun 1991 05:50:03

I've gotten an inquiry already as to the shoving out-of-bounds in the Portland
v. Lakers games. I only saw one of two shoves in the last game.

If anyone knows excactly who shoved who, which quarter it was etc., please post
the info. OTHERWISE I'll check my own newspaper clippings for the article that
covered the shoving. I remember it was someone on the Lakers who did the
shoving--I'll check the facts & post it later.

I'm not trying to justify what Dennis did, just making a point.

ANOTHER POINT about double standards...
In the same game after the final buzzer, Magic RAN off the court toward
the locker room (away from Portland's bench) and didn't shake ANYBODY'S hand
I haven't heard anyone say he was a sore winner.

John Salley, Chuck Daley, Scott Hastings, Joe DUUUUUUmars, Vinnie Johnson, and
(I think) other Pistons DID shake hands with the Bulls after the last game.
But all I hear from the national media is they're sore losers.

--Eric

 
 
 

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Post by EIVE.. » Sat, 15 Jun 1991 22:29:36

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------

Quote:

>>I've gotten an inquiry already as to the shoving out-of-bounds in the
>>Portland v. Lakers games. I only saw one of two shoves in the last game.

>>If anyone knows excactly who shoved who, which quarter it was etc., please
>>post the info.
>I just recall one flagrant foul called on Perkins when he hit Ainge
>with his body on a layup.  That call, as well as the two flagrants
>called in The Finals all seemed highly questionable.  But thanks to
>the Pistons contribution to basketball, the refs feel the need to
>err on the side of overcalling.

Here's what happened...
"...Vlade Divac splattered Buck Williams to the floor with a hard, take-no-
prisoners foul in the second quarter of Game 6 of the Western Conference finals
.. they called it a good foul. A smart foul. When Byron Scott cut off a Portla
nd fast break near the end of the half by bumping Clyde Drexler out of bounds,
again, smart foul. ..." Detroit Free Press, May 31, 1991

Quote:
>>ANOTHER POINT about double standards...
>>In the same game after the final buzzer, Magic RAN off the court toward
>>the locker room (away from Portland's bench) and didn't shake ANYBODY'S hand
>>I haven't heard anyone say he was a sore winner.
>This is just dumb.  When hundreds of people are about to mob the
>floor, you don't want to hang around.  Magic later found Michael, gave
>him a big hug.

Michael who? Portland has a Mike on their team? Maybe they do, I dunno.

But I digress...

So let me get this straight: when hundreds of people in LA are about to mob the
floor it's OK to leave after you've won the game.
BUT when thousands of people in Auburn Hills are threatening to do the same, it
NOT OK to leave during a time out before the game is over.

If that's not a double standard, well then...

Zeke wanted Magic Johnson to win, so sue him, you big Lakers fan!

Quote:
>--
><>Dale
>Looks like another perfect day....... I love LA!

--Eric
 
 
 

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Post by EIVE.. » Sat, 15 Jun 1991 23:19:59


Quote:
>As I've said before, Charles was born to be a Piston!  (Oh please God, yes,
>please, please, please.  PLEEEZE make Harold Katz send Charles to Detroit!)

The flow of movement seems to be from the Pistons to the Sixers.
Bad Boy Rick Mahorn has been as 76er for the past 2 years now!
But actually I wouldn't mind having a championship calibre player like
Charles on the Pistons. Even if he is a jerk. There probably would be less
fighting with other teams, eh?

Remember: Rick Mahorn is a Sixer!

--Eric

 
 
 

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Post by Bucky Ransde » Sun, 16 Jun 1991 00:35:18

Quote:

>So let me get this straight: when hundreds of people in LA are about to mob the
>floor it's OK to leave after you've won the game.
>BUT when thousands of people in Auburn Hills are threatening to do the same, it
>NOT OK to leave during a time out before the game is over.

I wasn't aware that thousands of people in Auburn Hills were going to mob
the court to celebrate the Pistons' loss.  Obviously the fans in that area
are starting to see the light.
 
 
 

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Post by David E. Thom » Sun, 16 Jun 1991 03:14:24


Quote:

>ANOTHER POINT about double standards...
>In the same game after the final buzzer, Magic RAN off the court toward
>the locker room (away from Portland's bench) and didn't shake ANYBODY'S hand
>I haven't heard anyone say he was a sore winner.

In the hallway, on the way to the lockeroom immediately following the game
Magic intentionally sought out a number of Bulls personnel to congratulate
them.  He also paid a visit to the Bulls lockeroom specifically to give
his congratulations to Michael Jordan.  Even if he hadn't, if you heard
ANY of his statements to the media during or after the series, it was
obvious that he is a much more gracious loser than the Pistons were.

Quote:
>John Salley, Chuck Daley, Scott Hastings, Joe DUUUUUUmars, Vinnie Johnson, and
>(I think) other Pistons DID shake hands with the Bulls after the last game.
>But all I hear from the national media is they're sore losers.

None of the reports I saw mentioned anyone but Salley and Daley shaking hands
with anyone.  Of course most of what I heard was from the Chicago media, and
you'd have to be pretty blind to not notice their bias.  I don't think it
changes the perception of them being poor losers too much, however.

David E. Thomas
University of Illinois at Chicago

 
 
 

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Post by Dennis Doubled » Sun, 16 Jun 1991 02:06:54

Quote:

>As I've said before, Charles was born to be a Piston!  (Oh please God, yes,
>please, please, please.  PLEEEZE make Harold Katz send Charles to Detroit!)

Nah, won't happen.  But cheer up--Peter Vecsey`s Friday column in USA
Today says the Pistons are trying to sign Brad Sellars.

I am absolutely serious.


Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213  (412)268-5873

 
 
 

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Post by Dale Cha » Sun, 16 Jun 1991 04:08:12

My apology for mis-reading your clear post, and then calling *it*
dumb.  You were referring to the Portland game, I to the Chicago game.

Nevertheless, I see no similarity between leaving the court after the
buzzer vs walking off with the game still in progress.

--
<>Dale
Looks like another perfect day....... I love LA!

 
 
 

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Post by Michael Van » Mon, 17 Jun 1991 15:45:32


Quote:

>>[Eiverson]
>>ANOTHER POINT about double standards...
>>In the same game after the final buzzer, Magic RAN off the court toward
>>the locker room (away from Portland's bench) and didn't shake ANYBODY'S hand

                             ^^^^^^^^^^

Quote:
>>I haven't heard anyone say he was a sore winner.

>[Thomas]
>In the hallway, on the way to the lockeroom immediately following the game
>Magic intentionally sought out a number of Bulls personnel to congratulate
>them.  He also paid a visit to the Bulls lockeroom specifically to give
>his congratulations to Michael Jordan.  Even if he hadn't, if you heard
>ANY of his statements to the media during or after the series, it was
>obvious that he is a much more gracious loser than the Pistons were.

Damn, Dave, you Chicago fans see the Bulls and Michael everywhere, even
when they're not there.  I see no reference to a Lakers/Bulls game in
Eiverson's post.  If Magic paid a visit to the Bulls lockerroom after the
game in question he would've had to travel all the way to Chicago and he
would've found it empty.  The Bulls didn't play that night except in the
hearts and minds of deluded Chicago fans everywhere.

-Michael "Pistons fan caught living in Chicago" Vance

 
 
 

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Post by EIVE.. » Wed, 19 Jun 1991 03:13:13


Quote:
>Why would thousands of fools mob the PISStons after they were swept
>swept and thoroughly humiliated.

I guess, it's because here in Detroit, we're not just a bunch of fair-weather
fans who only love their home team when they're winning.

It was a tough season, plagued by injuries, but we still made it to the
Conference finals.

Even Cotton Fitzsimmons said that he didn't think
there was any way the cheering was for the Bulls.

I used to like Jordan and wished that they would win the championship if we
didn't. But after we we're down 3 games and all he could say was "I want to
kill this team" there's no way I could admire such a sore winner.

I liked it better last year when he said of the Pistons "They're a better team"

--Eric