Mariano Rivera in 2001 World Series

Mariano Rivera in 2001 World Series

Post by naniwadeka » Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:12:54


Just a mischievous thought : Mariano Rivera was talked
about as the biggest Yankee gun before the World Series
started. He hasn't pitched yet, and Yankees trail 0-2.
What are the odds that he won't pitch at all in this WS ?

On an entirely unrelated note : www.majorleaguebaseball.com
used to give details of all World Series games since 1903 in
their history section. In their wisdom, they have now removed
those pages. It is quite possible that this act of vandalism has
been discussed on rsbb before. Is there any alternative now
which provides such a summary in one consolidated place?
If there are such URLs, please do let me know.

- dhananjay naniwadekar

 
 
 

Mariano Rivera in 2001 World Series

Post by JVV4 » Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:38:29

Quote:

>Just a mischievous thought : Mariano Rivera was talked
>about as the biggest Yankee gun before the World Series
>started. He hasn't pitched yet, and Yankees trail 0-2.
>What are the odds that he won't pitch at all in this WS ?

Very bad now.

 
 
 

Mariano Rivera in 2001 World Series

Post by Charlie Juliet Novembe » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 03:34:04

I wish Fox would stop comparing Rivera's post-season ERA to those of Sandy
Koufax and Christy Mathewson. It's apples and oranges. Rivera's a closer, albeit
a damn good one. Koufax and Mathewson were starters. If Rivera had to start
6-plus innings every outing, then we would know how he measures up.

Rivera needs to be measured against the great closers of post-season history,
not the starters. Then we can really see Rivera's work in perspective.

But Fox doesn't know that, because they care more about plugging 'Ally McBeal'
and '24' than about baseball.

On 31 Oct 2001 10:38:29 GMT, in posting

Quote:

>>Just a mischievous thought : Mariano Rivera was talked
>>about as the biggest Yankee gun before the World Series
>>started. He hasn't pitched yet, and Yankees trail 0-2.
>>What are the odds that he won't pitch at all in this WS ?

>Very bad now.

--
"I hate pathetic people! I'll kill you if you cry!"
                       -- Toshiro Mifune, 'Yojimbo'

 
 
 

Mariano Rivera in 2001 World Series

Post by Samso » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 06:16:15


Quote:

> I wish Fox would stop comparing Rivera's post-season ERA to those of
> Sandy Koufax and Christy Mathewson. It's apples and oranges.

It's also totally arbitrary. I guess they're going by 50 ip min.
Traditionally, I thought 30 ip was the minimum. Then he'd be
pictured next to Babe Ruth and Harry Brecheen. Or they could take
it down to 20 and he'd be 5th behind all-time greats John Rocker,
Joe Niekro, Dave Dravecky and Ken Dayley.

Quote:
> Rivera's a closer, albeit a damn good one. Koufax and Mathewson
> were starters. If Rivera had to start 6-plus innings every outing,
> then we would know how he measures up.

Make that 9-plus innings for Mathewson.

Quote:
> Rivera needs to be measured against the great closers of post-season
> history, not the starters. Then we can really see Rivera's work in
> perspective.

He stands up pretty well. Most post-season and WS saves,
and appearances. Along with the ERA.

Quote:
> But Fox doesn't know that, because they care more about plugging
> 'Ally McBeal' and '24' than about baseball.

They could at least work that in through mention of former
WS saves leader Allie Reynolds and Rivera recording his
24th postseason save. Nope -- loud, annoying Fox not so
crafty.