Red Sox & Jays

Red Sox & Jays

Post by Doug Trueblo » Sat, 06 Oct 1990 00:20:13


Quote:

>As the season boils down to the last three games, I think that I can
>accurately predict the outcome in the AL east on the basis of the first
>159 games.  Two scenarios:
>   1.  Boston looses 3 to the ChiSox, and Toronto is swept by Baltimore.

>  2.  Boston looses 3, but the Jays win one, leaving a tie, with the tie-
>breaker played in Toronto.  In a tight game, featuring at least 40 hits,
>6 errors, and 4 misplayed fly balls (more if Bell's in there), some one
>will win.  A key play will be Manny Lee being thrown out trying to
>stretch a line drive single to left right at Greenwell into a triple.

  Wednesdays Boston Globe had an article about the tuesday night clubhouse
watch in Baltimore as the Jay's waited to find which sox won; they were
getting on Bell's fielding pretty good if the quotes are to be believed.
In fairness to Bell, he hadn't played in a while out in the field prior to
last weekend and besides he wouldn't be the first player to be savaged by
the wall. I was at a game in 1981 where Jim Rice looked like a real jerk
out there and he had six years experience as the reguler left fielder....

Anyway, the Red Sox clinched last night and all's well in beantown.

On tuesday night, Clemons wanted Joe Morgan to keep the press out of the
clubhouse for an extra 15 minutes last night if they won ( that would've
meant a half hour delay total); Morgan refused. The Rocket punched out
Joe's door with his pitching hand on the way out. Word is he'll be fine
on saturday. The best two comments I heard were:

1) a local radio guy: `doesn't he have the brains to kick the door instead?'

2) when Joe Morgan was asked if he spoke to Roger about taking better care
of his hand, he said `I think the door spoke to him'.......

After all that, he was in Toronto (just in case) wednesday night when they
clinched.....

The highlight of the post game coverage was the almost 10 minute Tony and the
Gator show starring Tony Pena and Mike Greenwell. They were never mad at each
other, Tony's celebrated Baltimore Chair Toss was just his way of pumping up
the team, the press blew it out of proportion, etc..... While I can't help
but think that it would've been different had they lost, I also know that
back in the 25 guy/25 cab days it never would have happened even if they won.

Quote:
>God help the winner in Oakland!

amen. whats that old `roman gladiator entering the forum' saying?
those who are about to die salute you?

It will be interesting at the very least....

However 72 years is long enough, we want to win a world series now!!
Avenge Johnny Pesky, the series in 6....

Quote:
>Name:     Jim Rising
>Mail:     Dept. Zoology, Univ. Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada    M5S 1A1
>UUCP:     uunet!attcan!utzoo!rising


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Red Sox & Jays

Post by Jonathan Ki » Sun, 07 Oct 1990 01:44:55

Quote:

>   Wednesdays Boston Globe had an article about the tuesday night clubhouse
> watch in Baltimore as the Jay's waited to find which sox won; they were
> getting on Bell's fielding pretty good if the quotes are to be believed.
> In fairness to Bell, he hadn't played in a while out in the field prior to
> last weekend and besides he wouldn't be the first player to be savaged by
> the wall. I was at a game in 1981 where Jim Rice looked like a real jerk
> out there and he had six years experience as the reguler left fielder....

This isn't really topical, but I gotta say it anyway.

1) Everybody has bad games in the field.

2) By 1981, Jim Rice had most certainly NOT been the regular left
fielder for the Red Sox for 6 years.  He had been on the team that
long, but Jim played a lot of DH in the early days.  (Note that this
wouldn't excuse bad play by itself, but Rice just wasn't the regular
for 6 years.)

3)  If you look at the fielding of Red Sox left fielders going back to
1939, I think you'll find that Rice, on average, handled more chances
per game than either Williams and at least as many as Yaz.  He was not
a fielding legend, but he was no worse than average.  

jking