One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by KB » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Maybe they should start a new HOF category for 'one day wonders', or
something. I mean, they let in broadcasters...

Harvey Haddix is famous to every baseball fan. So is Don Larsen. So they
didn't have the career numbers to justify getting into the career
section; they're still part of the lore. I would think they deserve some
recognition from Cooperstown, albeit of a different type.

Kevin

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by Douglas T. Mass » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> Maybe they should start a new HOF category for 'one day wonders', or
> something. I mean, they let in broadcasters...

> Harvey Haddix is famous to every baseball fan. So is Don Larsen. So they
> didn't have the career numbers to justify getting into the career
> section; they're still part of the lore. I would think they deserve some
> recognition from Cooperstown, albeit of a different type.

They get it:  It's called the Baseball Museum in Cooperstown.  The
Hall of Fame is just one room with dozens of plaques.  The rest of
the Museum is for all players of note, including Haddix and Larsen.
They're both there.

Doug
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One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by j.. » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00

: Maybe they should start a new HOF category for 'one day wonders', or
: something. I mean, they let in broadcasters...

: Harvey Haddix is famous to every baseball fan. So is Don Larsen. So they
: didn't have the career numbers to justify getting into the career
: section; they're still part of the lore. I would think they deserve some
: recognition from Cooperstown, albeit of a different type.

Hmmmm....I don't know about Cooperstown, but they deserve to have a team
named after them.  I can give about half of it:

1B Nate Colbert
2B Rennie Stennett?
SS Jimmy Cooney
3B
LF
CF
RF Mark Whiten
C
P  Harvey Haddix

UT Cesar Tovar

No real HOFers need apply, please.

JHB

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by James Ka » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>Hmmmm....I don't know about Cooperstown, but they deserve to have a team
>named after them.  I can give about half of it:
>1B Nate Colbert
>2B Rennie Stennett?
>SS Jimmy Cooney  

or Cesar Gutierrez (went 7-for-7)

Quote:
>3B
>LF
>CF

Jim Northrup (2 Grand Slams in a game)

Quote:
>RF Mark Whiten
>C
>P  Harvey Haddix
>UT Cesar Tovar

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One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by David Brazea » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>: Maybe they should start a new HOF category for 'one day wonders', or
>: something. I mean, they let in broadcasters...

<SNIP>

Quote:
>1B Nate Colbert
>2B Rennie Stennett?
>SS Jimmy Cooney
>3B
>LF
>CF
>RF Mark Whiten
>C
>P  Harvey Haddix

Not quite a _one-day_ wonder, but Johnny Vander Meer should be on this team,
too, I think.

Too bad you exclude Hall of Famers-- Stan Musial's five homers in a
double-header would fit in here, too.

davidb

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by Perry Sailo » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> >Hmmmm....I don't know about Cooperstown, but they deserve to have a team
> >named after them.  I can give about half of it:

> >1B Nate Colbert
> >2B Rennie Stennett?
> >SS Jimmy Cooney
> or Cesar Gutierrez (went 7-for-7)

> >3B
> >LF
> >CF
> Jim Northrup (2 Grand Slams in a game)

> >RF Mark Whiten
> >C

  Hmmmm.... Gene Tenace?

Quote:

> >P  Harvey Haddix

     P  Tony Cloninger (2 grand slams, 9 RBI, winning pitcher!)
        Tom Cheney (21 Ks -- okay, it took him 16 innings, but it's still the
record and he was nobody otherwise).

  PH  Dusty Rhodes, Bernie Carbo
Defensive replacement Sandy Amoros, Al Gianfriddo

Perry

- Show quoted text -

Quote:

> >UT Cesar Tovar

> --
> Jim
> New York, NY
> (Please remove "nospam." to get my e-mail address)
> http://www.panix.com/~kahn

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by j.. » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


: -> Hmmmm....I don't know about Cooperstown, but they deserve to have a team
: -> named after them.

: Pat Seerey (4 HR in 1 game) could be on this team, and Bobby Thomson,
: and Wambsganss, and Bucky Dent, Sandy Amoros, Al Gionfriddo. I guess
: van der Meer was a two-day wonder.

Entirely different team.  Two *game* wonder, is OK, if it was a
doubleheader.

Hmmm...Joel Young***?

JHB

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by Arthur Wohlwi » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


>Subject: Re: One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers
>Date: 8 Mar 1999 20:37:34 GMT

>: Maybe they should start a new HOF category for 'one day wonders', or
>: something. I mean, they let in broadcasters...
>: Harvey Haddix is famous to every baseball fan. So is Don Larsen. So they
>: didn't have the career numbers to justify getting into the career
>: section; they're still part of the lore. I would think they deserve some
>: recognition from Cooperstown, albeit of a different type.
>Hmmmm....I don't know about Cooperstown, but they deserve to have a team
>named after them.  I can give about half of it:
>1B Nate Colbert
>2B Rennie Stennett?
>SS Jimmy Cooney
>3B Bob Horner

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by <zenev.. » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> Hmmmm....I don't know about Cooperstown, but they deserve to have a team
> named after them.  I can give about half of it:

> 1B Nate Colbert
> 2B Rennie Stennett?
> SS Jimmy Cooney
> 3B

     Bob Horner
     (4 HR in a game--that his team lost!!)
Quote:
> LF
> CF
> RF Mark Whiten

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by Benjamin Edelm » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00

: record and he was nobody otherwise).
:
:   PH  Dusty Rhodes, Bernie Carbo

I think Dusty Rhodes was a wrestler; Karl "Tuffy" Rhodes hit 3 HR on
opening day.

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One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by Keri Olsen and Arne Olso » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> : 1B Nate Colbert
> : 2B Rennie Stennett
> : SS Jimmy Cooney
> : 3B Bob Horner (although he's really too good)
> : LF Pat Seery
> : CF Jim Northrup
> : RF Mark Whiten
> : C
> : P  Harvey Haddix

> : UT Cesar Tovar

> Alternatively, Gutierez at SS and Wambsganss at 2B.  Probably better that
> way.  Tuffy Rhodes is a good call for the bench.

> We need a catcher; is there a record for throwing out runners in a game?
> We could also use a worse 3B than Horner, although at least he's no Mike
> Schmidt.  Relief pitcher, anyone?

Who was it that relieved Ruth and retired 26 in a row?

Arne

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by Dave Bism » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Ernie Shore--he also was on the mound when the leadoff man was caught stealing,
so he wound up with 9 perfect innings.

-Bismo.


Quote:

> > : 1B Nate Colbert
> > : 2B Rennie Stennett
> > : SS Jimmy Cooney
> > : 3B Bob Horner (although he's really too good)
> > : LF Pat Seery
> > : CF Jim Northrup
> > : RF Mark Whiten
> > : C
> > : P  Harvey Haddix

> > : UT Cesar Tovar

> > Alternatively, Gutierez at SS and Wambsganss at 2B.  Probably better that
> > way.  Tuffy Rhodes is a good call for the bench.

> > We need a catcher; is there a record for throwing out runners in a game?
> > We could also use a worse 3B than Horner, although at least he's no Mike
> > Schmidt.  Relief pitcher, anyone?

> Who was it that relieved Ruth and retired 26 in a row?

> Arne

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by <zenev.. » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> : 1B Nate Colbert
> : 2B Rennie Stennett
> : SS Jimmy Cooney
> : 3B Bob Horner (although he's really too good)
> : LF Pat Seery
> : CF Jim Northrup
> : RF Mark Whiten
> : C
> : P  Harvey Haddix

> : UT Cesar Tovar

> Alternatively, Gutierez at SS and Wambsganss at 2B.  Probably better that
> way.  Tuffy Rhodes is a good call for the bench.

> We need a catcher; is there a record for throwing out runners in a game?
> We could also use a worse 3B than Horner, although at least he's no Mike
> Schmidt.  Relief pitcher, anyone?

Relief pitcher: Ernie Shore, the "perfect game" in relief of Ruth. Or Rick
Camp, the tying home run in the bottom of the 18th in the 1985 Mets-Braves
July 4/5 game for a career .054 hitter. Camp, like Horner, was pretty good
overall though.

3B: it's tough to think of truly bad 3B in general. Middle infield and
catcher attract good-glove players so wretched with the bat their
awfulness stands out, while the offensive standards of 1B and outfield are
high enough that we can jump on the mediocre hitters as being blatantly
bad values for their position. For 3B, it's tougher to run off a list of
horrible ones. Recall the difficulty we had with 3B in the All-Mediocre
Team thread where DeCinces and Aurelio Rodriguez were proposed but some
objected they weren't that bad. And to think of one who had a one-day
wonder career....hmmm.

Catcher: did Gene Tenace's moment of glory last just a tad too long for
this team? Who else...

Jeff

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by Ivan Weis » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> Who was it that relieved Ruth and retired 26 in a row?

Ernie Shore. And he got credit for retiring 27, rightly or wrongly,
because the batter Ruth had walked was thrown out stealing while Shore was
pitching.

Ivan Weiss    FAITH, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one
Vashon WA     who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel.
              -- Ambrose Bierce: The Devil's Dictionary

 
 
 

One Day Wonder HOF was Re: HOF Votes For Obvious Non-HOFers

Post by James Weisbe » Tue, 09 Mar 1999 04:00:00


Quote:


>: record and he was nobody otherwise).
>:
>:   PH  Dusty Rhodes, Bernie Carbo

>I think Dusty Rhodes was a wrestler; Karl "Tuffy" Rhodes hit 3 HR on
>opening day.

        Nah. Before that Dusty Rhodes, the Giants' Dusty Rhodes was
Leo Durocher's goto boy when he needed a pinch hitter. Sometimes,
Dusty got to take in a few innings in the outfield though, and
that had everyone pulling their hair out. When asked about his
fielding skills, Dusty liked to joke: Well, it was Irvin in left,
Mays in center, and Mays in right.
        Dusty was one of the great characters of the game.

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