Reds / Red Sox trade?

Reds / Red Sox trade?

Post by Jeremy Mcmurr » Sun, 24 Dec 1995 04:00:00


I heard today that the Reds and Red Sox are working out a trade that
would send John Smiley to Boston in exchange for Tim Neahring.

Question is, has anyone else heard of this? Plus, why in the world would
the Reds want another third baseman? They already have Jeff Branson and
just signed fan favorite Chris Sabo.

If they want to trade Smiley, I personally rather have a young power
hitting prospect to replace Ron Gant, who will likely go elsewhere.

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Reds / Red Sox trade?

Post by Jonathan Bernste » Sun, 24 Dec 1995 04:00:00

: I heard today that the Reds and Red Sox are working out a trade that
: would send John Smiley to Boston in exchange for Tim Neahring.

I did hear this one, along with a rumor that the Sox would fill the hole
by trading for Cordero and putting him at 3B.  I'm not sure who it's
supposed to cost them to get Cordero.

: Question is, has anyone else heard of this? Plus, why in the world would
: the Reds want another third baseman? They already have Jeff Branson and
: just signed fan favorite Chris Sabo.

Naehring is ten times the player of either of these, or even...

: If they want to trade Smiley, I personally rather have a young power
: hitting prospect to replace Ron Gant, who will likely go elsewhere.

It's not clear to me that Gant is a better player than Naehring,
depending on what you think of the odds of injury of the two of them.  I
like Naehring a lot.  OTOH, the Reds do have an excellent 3B, except that
he's not allowed to play in the major leagues.  

Oh well.  

JHB

 
 
 

Reds / Red Sox trade?

Post by David Niepore » Mon, 25 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Quote:


>: I heard today that the Reds and Red Sox are working out a trade that
>: would send John Smiley to Boston in exchange for Tim Neahring.
>I did hear this one, along with a rumor that the Sox would fill the hole
>by trading for Cordero and putting him at 3B.  I'm not sure who it's
>supposed to cost them to get Cordero.

The rumor is Cormier, which is of course ridiculous, except that given
the anti-Duquettes who appear to be running the Expos now, it seems
possible.

(Of course, you wonder when these doofuses will figure out that THEY
could just put Cordero at third, especially now that Berry's gone.)

Quote:
>: Question is, has anyone else heard of this? Plus, why in the world would
>: the Reds want another third baseman? They already have Jeff Branson and
>: just signed fan favorite Chris Sabo.
>Naehring is ten times the player of either of these, or even...

Hey, ten times zero is still Sabo.

Quote:
>: If they want to trade Smiley, I personally rather have a young power
>: hitting prospect to replace Ron Gant, who will likely go elsewhere.
>It's not clear to me that Gant is a better player than Naehring,
>depending on what you think of the odds of injury of the two of them.  I
>like Naehring a lot.  OTOH, the Reds do have an excellent 3B, except that
>he's not allowed to play in the major leagues.  

He really ought to sue them or something.  I mean, this is ridiculous.  
Either bring him up, or trade him.  What's the point of forcing him to
wait until he becomes a minor league free agent to get a job?  Instead of
being a superstar, he'll be Jeff Manto.
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Reds / Red Sox trade?

Post by Jeff Jose » Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

>I heard today that the Reds and Red Sox are working out a trade that
>would send John Smiley to Boston in exchange for Tim Neahring.
>Question is, has anyone else heard of this? Plus, why in the world would
>the Reds want another third baseman? They already have Jeff Branson and
>just signed fan favorite Chris Sabo.

Maybe because Marge wants to do the baseball world a favor and have Sabo
continue the annual June tradition about why he is so great and why he
was deprived of a fair shake. Baltimore, Chicago, Cincinnati. It would
fit. If Detroit deals Fryman early on, he can just keep right on moving
through the alphabet.

Quote:
>If they want to trade Smiley, I personally rather have a young power
>hitting prospect to replace Ron Gant, who will likely go elsewhere.

Five years with Tony LaRussa. Interesting.

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Reds / Red Sox trade?

Post by Steven Joseph Mastroy » Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Quote:




>>I did hear this one, along with a rumor that the Sox would fill the hole
>>by trading for Cordero and putting him at 3B.  I'm not sure who it's
>>supposed to cost them to get Cordero.

>The rumor is Cormier, which is of course ridiculous, except that given
>the anti-Duquettes who appear to be running the Expos now, it seems
>possible.

The latest rumor, which makes more sense than Cormier, is Cordero for
Ken Ryan and Matt Murray.

Quote:
>>Naehring is ten times the player of either of these, or even...

Which makes me cringe when I hear the other trade rumors - that being
Tim Naerhing to Philly for Heath Slocumb...

Steve

 
 
 

Reds / Red Sox trade?

Post by Jonathan Bernste » Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:00:00


: The latest rumor, which makes more sense than Cormier, is Cordero for
: Ken Ryan and Matt Murray.

: >>Naehring is ten times the player of either of these, or even...

: Which makes me cringe when I hear the other trade rumors - that being
: Tim Naehring to Philly for Heath Slocumb...

In conjunction with Cordero for garbage, though, Naerhing for
Slocumb seems OK to me.  As much as I like Naerhing, I'd much rather have
Cordero at 3B, and I don't think Murray is a particularly high price to
pay, assuming as I do that Slocumb really is scads better than Ryan.  I'd
rather put Cordero at 3B and dump Naehring than put Cordero in LF and
dump Greenwell.

I assume Naehring stays if the Cordero giveaway doesn't happen.

JHB

 
 
 

Reds / Red Sox trade?

Post by Steven Joseph Mastroy » Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Quote:


>: The latest rumor, which makes more sense than Cormier, is Cordero for
>: Ken Ryan and Matt Murray.

>: >>Naehring is ten times the player of either of these, or even...

>: Which makes me cringe when I hear the other trade rumors - that being
>: Tim Naehring to Philly for Heath Slocumb...

>In conjunction with Cordero for garbage, though, Naerhing for
>Slocumb seems OK to me.  As much as I like Naerhing, I'd much rather have
>Cordero at 3B, and I don't think Murray is a particularly high price to
>pay, assuming as I do that Slocumb really is scads better than Ryan.  I'd
>rather put Cordero at 3B and dump Naehring than put Cordero in LF and
>dump Greenwell.

>I assume Naehring stays if the Cordero giveaway doesn't happen.

I wouldn't necessarily call it Cordero for garbage.  I know Cordero is
good, but there are now some questions as to the strength of his shoulder,
which according to Montreal press (ok, pretty shaky source, but it's all
I have heard) Cordero will probably need major shoulder surgery soon.  
Putting him at third may not be an option if this is indeed true.  I have
to admit that I'm not sure of the veracity of the report, though - any
fans of Les Expos know the truth?

At any rate, Ryan was awful this year, but I certainly think he was
a high quality pitcher last year and the year before.  And, he will
still be only 25 as of opening day next year.  If his slump of last
year is just a slump, then I would say he is better than Slocumb.  Murray
is a little old to be considered a great prospect anymore, but he
certainly should be able to be a solid starter for a few years.  

The trade would favor the Sox, of course.

Then again, Butch Henry (released by Expos, picked up by the Sox) is
probably as good as either of them, and JJ Thobe might be, too.  Maybe
we could trade those two players back to the Expos for Cordero :)

I'm not sure why you would rather have Greenwell stick around than
Naerhing.  Naerhing is a better hitter, and can play every infield
position (and probably LF or RF in a real pinch, I would guess).
Greenwell is a below average offensive player, especially outside of
Fenway.  Not that I mind the guy (I'm not a Greenwell-basher per se,
I actually like him), but he is not the Sox' best option for left field.

At any rate, Cincinnati categorically denies any interest in Naerhing
now.  Of course, this means that the trade was probably announced
today as the denial was reported by either Nick (no way Aguilera
is gonna be a Red Sox) Cafardo or Peter Gammons (and you know his
track record) in the Sunday Globe.

Steve

 
 
 

Reds / Red Sox trade?

Post by Jeff Jose » Fri, 29 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Quote:


>: The latest rumor, which makes more sense than Cormier, is Cordero for
>: Ken Ryan and Matt Murray.
>: >>Naehring is ten times the player of either of these, or even...
>: Which makes me cringe when I hear the other trade rumors - that being
>: Tim Naehring to Philly for Heath Slocumb...
>In conjunction with Cordero for garbage, though, Naerhing for
>Slocumb seems OK to me.  As much as I like Naerhing, I'd much rather have
>Cordero at 3B, and I don't think Murray is a particularly high price to
>pay, assuming as I do that Slocumb really is scads better than Ryan.  I'd
>rather put Cordero at 3B and dump Naehring than put Cordero in LF and
>dump Greenwell.
>I assume Naehring stays if the Cordero giveaway doesn't happen.

Naehring for Slocumb is the rumor du jour? At least Lee Thomas knows how
to raise the price. I had to hear Sprague-for-Slocumb for awhile before
it turned into Battle-for-Qantrow.

I always the easy thing to do is trade Sean Berry and move Cordero to
third. At least Jim Beattie has it half-right so far. Cordero is still
pretty young.

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