Hamed-Ingle...Am I the only one??

Hamed-Ingle...Am I the only one??

Post by Norman Bate » Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:00:00


No, you're not the only one.  Before he reverted to his old antics, Hamed
displayed a much improved balance, was slipping punches instead of leaning
straight back to avoid them, kept his chin down, punched effectively to the
body, and for the most part did not lunge in and smother his own power.   I
don't know how much of the change that took place in the latter part of the
fight was due to Steward's influence and how much to Hamed's being tired,
but just when Forman started to say something like, "Now we're seeing the
old Hamed again!  That's right, keep your hands down.  Relax!", Naseem began
looking like shit.

I'm still far from becoming a Hamed follower, but in this fight he showed me
that he does have the potential to become a great fighter--something I could
not see in him before.  And I must admit his power is pretty impressive.

Norman

Quote:

>Am I the only one that thinks Hamed was doing very good UNTIL Steward
>butted in? It seemed to me the Saurez was giving Naseem pretty good
>advice from what little I could hear. Moreover, I don't see how even
>the British news agencies can say Hamed was in danger of losing. Yes,
>he looked a little winded and yes he was catching some punches, but he
>never looked in immenint danger of losing. I find Steward's comments
>about Hamed possibly being on the verge of KO more self-serving than
>honest. I'm no Hamed fan, but I think he looked pretty good for the
>first 8 rounds....

>Alejandro

>www.neutral-corner.com

 
 
 

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Post by Alejandro Olagu » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Am I the only one that thinks Hamed was doing very good UNTIL Steward
butted in? It seemed to me the Saurez was giving Naseem pretty good
advice from what little I could hear. Moreover, I don't see how even
the British news agencies can say Hamed was in danger of losing. Yes,
he looked a little winded and yes he was catching some punches, but he
never looked in immenint danger of losing. I find Steward's comments
about Hamed possibly being on the verge of KO more self-serving than
honest. I'm no Hamed fan, but I think he looked pretty good for the
first 8 rounds....

Alejandro

www.neutral-corner.com

 
 
 

Hamed-Ingle...Am I the only one??

Post by Marty & Boxing Wi » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>Am I the only one that thinks Hamed was doing very good UNTIL Steward
>butted in? It seemed to me the Saurez was giving Naseem pretty good
>advice from what little I could hear. Moreover, I don't see how even
>the British news agencies can say Hamed was in danger of losing. Yes,
>he looked a little winded and yes he was catching some punches, but he
>never looked in immenint danger of losing. I find Steward's comments
>about Hamed possibly being on the verge of KO more self-serving than
>honest. I'm no Hamed fan, but I think he looked pretty good for the
>first 8 rounds....

Well we usually agree on most things but I totally disagree here. Remember it was the
straight left which Stewart suggested that ended the fight. I think we all know
SUCCESSFULL boxing is a TEAM sport and Hamed looked absolutley lost without Brendan
Ingle in his corner. Gone was the upper body movement and the chances he Hamed took with
other opponents who were faster than Ingle. The reason Naz is so hard to beat is because
you can not prepare for him in sparring. If he goes to any kind of orthodox style and
 too much body punching he will get beat by Barrera.......I dont think Morales can beat
him yet.  He looked O.K at best compared to even the McCullough fight the first 8 rounds
and then some fatigue set in and he looked even worse.

                                             Keep Punching
                                                      Marty

Editor of the Boxing Wise websight
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Post by steven reynold » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00

A lot of people posting after the Hamed fight seem to have taken their
opinion from rounds nine and ten where Naz did look poor. But for the first
eight rounds I thought he was producing his best performance since Badillo.
He was more elusive, his balance was better, he used more body punches, and
was less reliant on lunging power shots. For a first fight with a new trainer
I was surprised to see so many improvements, and since Steward wasn't
involved in any of that I don't really understand why he was there at all.

Steven.


Quote:

> Am I the only one that thinks Hamed was doing very good UNTIL Steward
> butted in? It seemed to me the Saurez was giving Naseem pretty good
> advice from what little I could hear. Moreover, I don't see how even
> the British news agencies can say Hamed was in danger of losing. Yes,
> he looked a little winded and yes he was catching some punches, but he
> never looked in immenint danger of losing. I find Steward's comments
> about Hamed possibly being on the verge of KO more self-serving than
> honest. I'm no Hamed fan, but I think he looked pretty good for the
> first 8 rounds....

> Alejandro

> www.neutral-corner.com

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Post by mark » Thu, 15 Apr 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> A lot of people posting after the Hamed fight seem to have taken their
> opinion from rounds nine and ten where Naz did look poor. But for the first
> eight rounds I thought he was producing his best performance since Badillo.
> He was more elusive, his balance was better, he used more body punches, and
> was less reliant on lunging power shots. For a first fight with a new trainer
> I was surprised to see so many improvements, and since Steward wasn't
> involved in any of that I don't really understand why he was there at all.

> Steven.

There seemed to be that novel idea of using combinations as well. One wonders
whether he will have the confidence to continue this, considering the fact he
blew a gasket from round 9. Nevertheless, I was very impressed that he had
the flexibility and mind set to change his boxing style. This is not
something he has particularly illustrated before. Perhaps he could work on
tucking that chin in, before a fighter with a good straight right puts his
lights out.

Mark D

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Post by doofdadd » Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Hamed seems to have the rare ability of being able to perfectly dodge his
opponent's punches.  It seems like he's wide open, yet he almost always
finds away to avoid the punch.  

While I'm not a great fan of Hamed's, I do enjoy that he's brought a lot of
interest to the lower weight divisions.  Without him, not many would be
talking about that weight class.  However, I do look forward to him
fighting better caliber fighters.  

I'd like to see how he adjust to fighters who can take his punch and hit
harder than most of his opponents thus far.  Hopefully some of these fights
can be made.  Of course, if he loses to the first decent fighter who isn't
old, slow or coming up in weight, there will no longer be any interest in
that division, and all of the good fighters will have to go back to making
smaller pay days.

 
 
 

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Post by Boxer400 » Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:00:00

I was there on saturday night and it seemed to me that hamed was never in any
real danger  -he just got a shock having his nose ***ied and maybe cracking
his hand, but real test of a champion showed when he pulled off that KO in
round 11. crowd went beserk and until then the mood had wung between each
fighter with every punch..