LENNOX WANTS TYSON

LENNOX WANTS TYSON

Post by BOXINGBU » Fri, 04 Jun 1999 04:00:00


It's all about the benjamins
 
 
 

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Post by WCri » Fri, 04 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I think Tyson would have a better shot against Lewis than he would against
Holyfield

I also think he has a better chance of beating Lewis than Holyfield does.

At this stage Tyson has to knock you out if you have any skills because he
doesn't appear to have much left except his brutal punch.

He can't take Holyfield out (chin of granite) so he can't beat him.  However,
Lewis is already proven to be vulnerable to a real big punch.
So it is possible.

Holyfield on the other hand can outbox Tyson but he can't outbox Lewis and he
probably can't knock him out.

Matchups, matchups....

 
 
 

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Post by Bria » Fri, 04 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Tyson has never fought a big heavyweight like Lewis with the kinds of boxing
skills and power Lewis possesses.  A Tyson Lewis fight could deliver the kind of
defeat that would send Tyson into retirement.  Tyson would be vulnerable to
Lewis' jab from the outset and Lewis would use that jab to set up crunching
right hands to Tyson's head.  Tyson's lack of defense would mean he's absorb way
too many big right hands.  Like always Tyson still has his killer power and the
fight could turn at any moment if Tyson landed a perfect shot, but Lewis being
trained by Emanuel Steward would probably be able to anticipate the big Tyson
punches and would work to counter off his attacks.

 
 
 

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Post by Wesley Gabehar » Fri, 04 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I think he'll fight someone like Shultz and then Foreman in December,

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Quote:

> I think Tyson would have a better shot against Lewis than he would against
> Holyfield

> I also think he has a better chance of beating Lewis than Holyfield does.

> At this stage Tyson has to knock you out if you have any skills because he
> doesn't appear to have much left except his brutal punch.

> He can't take Holyfield out (chin of granite) so he can't beat him.  However,
> Lewis is already proven to be vulnerable to a real big punch.
> So it is possible.

> Holyfield on the other hand can outbox Tyson but he can't outbox Lewis and he
> probably can't knock him out.

> Matchups, matchups....

 
 
 

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Post by Conrad Ki » Fri, 04 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>You forgot to leave out that you wouldn't be surprised if Lewis won a
>decision...but then people might think you're sitting on the fence.

AS Cyril Smith, a 20 stone politician from the UK said "If the fence
is big enough, I'll sit on it"

The results of both fights for Lewis are not forgone conclusions. I
reckon Lewis should and would win them;-)

Conrad

 
 
 

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Post by waltlav2.. » Fri, 04 Jun 1999 04:00:00

If Tyson's manager is smart he will avoid Lewis like the plague. There
are a lot of easy money fights out there that Tyson can take to make
plenty of money, without taking the chances he would take with Lewis.
Tyson has lost his cloak of invincibility and many fighters now are
lining up to fight him when in his prime they were ducking him. Lewis
could shorten Tyson's career appreciably were they to fight in the too
near future.
Walt



Quote:
> Doesn't matter if Lewis is the champ Tyson will still get payed more
then Lewis
> for this fight.

> I beg to differ. Lewis, as unified World Champ, will call the shots,
even
> against
> PPV Champ Tyson. Tyson WILL get
> his 25-30 Mil but Lewis will get 35 or Tyson
> don't get the fight at all. And it will be the richest purse in
boxing history.

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Post by Bria » Fri, 04 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> If Tyson's manager is smart he will avoid Lewis like the plague. There
> are a lot of easy money fights out there that Tyson can take to make
> plenty of money, without taking the chances he would take with Lewis.
> Tyson has lost his cloak of invincibility and many fighters now are
> lining up to fight him when in his prime they were ducking him. Lewis
> could shorten Tyson's career appreciably were they to fight in the too
> near future.

Tyson has avoided Lewis for his entire career why should he stop now?

I'm sure Tyson and his people will not fight Lewis.

Tyson has always avoided Lewis because it is very likely Lewis would
turn Tyson into a s***heap.  Lewis would pick up where Holyfield left
off and completely wreck Tyson.  Remember Tyson was demolished by
Holyfield, and that same Holyfield was outclassed by Lewis.  Another
common opponent was Razor Ruddock who gave the early 90s version of
Tyson great trouble.  Lewis blasted Ruddock away in 2 rounds.

Against Tyson, Lewis would have great motivation and he could
definatively end Tyson's career and punish Tyson for acting like a
complete idiot.  Unfortunately we will probably never get to see this
happen since Tyson and his people know Lewis could do this.

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Post by Ivan Weis » Fri, 04 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> If Tyson's manager is smart he will avoid Lewis like the plague. There
> are a lot of easy money fights out there that Tyson can take to make
> plenty of money, without taking the chances he would take with Lewis.
> Tyson has lost his cloak of invincibility and many fighters now are
> lining up to fight him when in his prime they were ducking him. Lewis
> could shorten Tyson's career appreciably were they to fight in the too
> near future.

This may sound cold, but I would expect Tyson's management to throw him in
with Lewis as soon as the fight can be made, for as much money as they can
get. Look at Tyson's history. Does it make any sense, strictly from the
cash standpoint, to make *any* long-term plans involving him?

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Post by The Sanity Cruze » Fri, 04 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>This may sound cold, but I would expect Tyson's management to throw him in
>with Lewis as soon as the fight can be made, for as much money as they can
>get. Look at Tyson's history. Does it make any sense, strictly from the
>cash standpoint, to make *any* long-term plans involving him?

I don't think they'd do that.  Why not take $10 million (or so) at a time
for fighting guys they think he can still beat as opposed to $25 million -
$30 million where he gets his ass kicked and spoils his 'image', as it is?

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Post by BoxMuh » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>many fighters now are
>lining up to fight him when in his prime they were ducking him.

          Who was ducking Tyson in his prime?  Holyfield called for Tyson for a
year as #1 contender.  Foreman was calling very loudly for Tyson throughout
Tyson's prime.  Bowe and Lewis really weren't on the scene yet.  Whom do you
remember ducking Tyson?

         Boxmuhammad

 
 
 

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Post by BoxMuh » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>I'm sure Tyson and his people will not fight Lewis.

     I would love to see this matchup.  Tyson going for the homerun, getting
increasingly frustrated and slapped silly in the meantime.
     I agree.  Tyson and his people will never take this fight.

      Boxmuhammad

 
 
 

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Post by Michael W Haug » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

: >5. It would enrich his legacy as a great champion.
: * Wishful thinking on Lewis' and his fans'
: part.  Winning wars against current contenders, at the top of their game should
: do more for his legacy in the long run.  How many people regard Trevor Berbick
: as a fighter with a legacy of a "great champion?"
: -mwh

: Tyson already IS a legend who will be talked about well into the next
: millenium. 20 years from now, people will still be talking Lewis/Tyson even if
: it's a way past primetime Tyson.
: >
I would agree that they would be talking and speculating what would have
happened if they had met with Tyson 5 years closer and two prison stays
closer to his prime.  At this point Lewis is simply going for a high
money/low risk fight.  Something that most people would do, but what he has
complained about for a lot of years.  

This fight adds nothing to boxing at all.  A Lewis /
Ibeabuchi or Lewis / Grant fight would build towards the future.
Something boxing badly needs right now.
--
        -mwh

 
 
 

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Post by Michael W Haug » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

: Tyson has never fought a big heavyweight like Lewis with the kinds of boxing
: skills and power Lewis possesses.  A Tyson Lewis fight could deliver the kind of
: defeat that would send Tyson into retirement.  Tyson would be vulnerable to
: Lewis' jab from the outset and Lewis would use that jab to set up crunching
: right hands to Tyson's head.  Tyson's lack of defense would mean he's absorb way
: too many big right hands.  Like always Tyson still has his killer power and the
: fight could turn at any moment if Tyson landed a perfect shot, but Lewis being
: trained by Emanuel Steward would probably be able to anticipate the big Tyson
: punches and would work to counter off his attacks.

And Lewis has never faced a fighter like Tyson who would deflate your will
before the fight and deflate your body in the first few rounds.  Then take
you out.

Lewis does not measure up to Tyson well when comparing resumes' and
performances over the long haul.
--
        -mwh

 
 
 

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Post by Michael W Haug » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00



: > If Tyson's manager is smart he will avoid Lewis like the plague. There
: > are a lot of easy money fights out there that Tyson can take to make
: > plenty of money, without taking the chances he would take with Lewis.
: > Tyson has lost his cloak of invincibility and many fighters now are
: > lining up to fight him when in his prime they were ducking him. Lewis
: > could shorten Tyson's career appreciably were they to fight in the too
: > near future.

: Tyson has avoided Lewis for his entire career why should he stop now?

Tyson was a champion 3 times over before Lewis was a pro.  How did he
"avoid" Lewis his whole career as you say?

: I'm sure Tyson and his people will not fight Lewis.

: Tyson has always avoided Lewis because it is very likely Lewis would
: turn Tyson into a s***heap.  Lewis would pick up where Holyfield left
: off and completely wreck Tyson.  Remember Tyson was demolished by
: Holyfield, and that same Holyfield was outclassed by Lewis.  Another
: common opponent was Razor Ruddock who gave the early 90s version of
: Tyson great trouble.  Lewis blasted Ruddock away in 2 rounds.

Lewis was a higher risk fight and due to his inconsistent performances and
vanilla ring presence would not have brought the dollars in like Holyfield
did.  

Tyson avoided Lewis in a small window of time.  Tyson was defeated by
Holyfield before you could toot this horn legitimately (not that this has
ever stopped you before).

Was it wrong that Tyson avoided him?  Yes.  Is Lewis making noise that he
will be avoiding the top challengers and looking for easier, higher
profile, bigger money fights now?  Yes.  Is this not hypocritical of Lewis
and his fans to wish for these fights now?  Yes.

: Against Tyson, Lewis would have great motivation and he could
: definatively end Tyson's career and punish Tyson for acting like a
: complete idiot.  Unfortunately we will probably never get to see this
: happen since Tyson and his people know Lewis could do this.

Your wishing for this fight to come off just about says it all as to what
kind of boxing fan you are.  Simply a hero worshiping sycophant rather
than a fan who looks for the best matchups and the best for the sport.

Enjoy your Lennox Lewis and Roy Jones Jr. action figures when mommy tucks
you in tonight.  ;-)
--
        -mwh

 
 
 

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Post by Bria » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> Tyson avoided Lewis in a small window of time.  Tyson was defeated by
> Holyfield before you could toot this horn legitimately (not that this
has
> ever stopped you before).

huh?  wtf are you talking about.  you're not making ANY sense here.

Quote:
> Was it wrong that Tyson avoided him?  Yes.

ok you're not completely stupid.  You at least acknowledge this.

Quote:
> Is Lewis making noise that he
> will be avoiding the top challengers and looking for easier, higher
> profile, bigger money fights now?  Yes.

Wrong again.  How is fighting Holyfield for the undisputed title
avoiding top challengers?  Who has Lewis ever avoided?  Nobody.  Who is
Lewis avoiding now? Nobody. Is Michael Haught a troll with no friends?
Yes.  Is he a ***ing loser who will never go away?  Yes.

Quote:
> Is this not hypocritical of Lewis
> and his fans to wish for these fights now?  Yes.

Huh wish for what fights?  Boxing fans have always wanted to see Lewis
Tyson.  It would be a great clash, even now.  Only stupid trolls like
Haught would say that it is hypocritical to want to see Tyson fight
Lewis.

Quote:
> Your wishing for this fight to come off just about says it all as to
what
> kind of boxing fan you are.  Simply a hero worshiping sycophant rather
> than a fan who looks for the best matchups and the best for the sport.

> Enjoy your Lennox Lewis and Roy Jones Jr. action figures when mommy
tucks
> you in tonight.  ;-)

This post says it all about you.  You're a ***ing loser who knows
nothing about me.

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