LENNOX WANTS TYSON

LENNOX WANTS TYSON

Post by Myon » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00


LENNOX LOOKS FOR TYSON BONANZA
By Sunday Mirror Sport staff

Mike Tyson's latest come-back has given a new edge to Lennox Lewis' November
showdown with Evander Holyfield.

Britain's WBC world heavyweight champion now hopes to launch the new millennium
as he will end the current one - with a big pay-day.

Lewis will gross at least 10million for his re-match with WBA and IBF champion
Holyfield after their controversial draw earlier this year.

"Then Tyson will need to meet me for the undisputed title if his comeback is to
have any meaning," said Lennox.

Tyson, released from his second spell in jail last week, is planning a return
fight in the summer with German Axel Schulz lined up.

Lewis' manager, Frank Maloney, says: "Tyson will be okay knocking over a few
hand-picked opponents. But when it comes to a big fight I'm not sure he will
have the dedication to lock himself away in training camp for a couple of
months."

? PA Sporting Life

 
 
 

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Post by Thirty2R » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>Mike Tyson's latest come-back has given a new edge to Lennox Lewis' November
>showdown with Evander Holyfield.

>Britain's WBC world heavyweight champion now hopes to launch the new
>millennium
>as he will end the current one - with a big pay-day.

>Lewis will gross at least 10million for his re-match with WBA and IBF
>champion
>Holyfield after their controversial draw earlier this year.

>"Then Tyson will need to meet me for the undisputed title if his comeback is
>to
>have any meaning," said Lennox.

>Tyson, released from his second spell in jail last week, is planning a return
>fight in the summer with German Axel Schulz lined up.

>Lewis' manager, Frank Maloney, says: "Tyson will be okay knocking over a few
>hand-picked opponents. But when it comes to a big fight I'm not sure he will
>have the dedication to lock himself away in training camp for a couple of
>months."

Even though most objective boxing observers consider Tyson somewhere between
"past his prime" and "shot", I give Lewis some credit for coming right out and
firing the first shot.

When and if Lewis gets done with Holyfield, you know there are a lot of
knuckleheads out there that will pollute the world screaming for this match to
be made.  Lewis is smart to recognize this, and effectively, force Tyson to
declare his intentions by taking the fight within a reasonable amount of time,
or by declining the fight and confirming what many already believe; that he has
no desire to fight Lewis, and that his intentions upon returning to boxing are
suspect.

"Bet The Red"

 
 
 

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Post by BOXINGBU » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00

By Lewis calling out Tyson, he accomplishes many things:
1. By firing the first shot, he avoids any "ducking" controversy when Tyson
gets by Contestant #1 (Schultz/whoever) then Briggs.
2. His people will call the shots, not Don King.
3. He could possibly avoid the boring mandatory vs. Akinwande/Ruiz
4. He could command the richest purse in boxing history.
5. It would enrich his legacy as a great champion.

 
 
 

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Post by KennyP3 » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>4. He could command the richest purse in boxing history.

Doesn't matter if Lewis is the champ or calls out Tyson first. Tyson will still
get payed more then Lewis for this fight. What Tyson got 30million to fight
botha I believe, so no way does he take any less to fight Lewis
PEACE
KENNY P
 
 
 

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Post by BOXINGBU » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Doesn't matter if Lewis is the champ Tyson will still get payed more then Lewis
for this fight.

I beg to differ. Lewis, as unified World Champ, will call the shots, even
against
PPV Champ Tyson. Tyson WILL get
his 25-30 Mil but Lewis will get 35 or Tyson
don't get the fight at all. And it will be the richest purse in boxing history.

 
 
 

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Post by Ivan Weis » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> By Lewis calling out Tyson, he accomplishes many things:
> 1. By firing the first shot, he avoids any "ducking" controversy when Tyson
> gets by Contestant #1 (Schultz/whoever) then Briggs.
> 2. His people will call the shots, not Don King.
> 3. He could possibly avoid the boring mandatory vs. Akinwande/Ruiz
> 4. He could command the richest purse in boxing history.
> 5. It would enrich his legacy as a great champion.

Plus he would probably kick Tyson's ass. It's a master ploy, because Tyson
is hard-pressed to turn this one down. Tyson might get away with demanding
a few warmup fights, but as long as the Lewis challenge is out there,
Tyson is trapped like spider in a web. But if Tyson (justifiably) gets a
warmup fight or two, Lewis may not be able to avoid the Akinwande/Ruiz
mandatory.

Ivan Weiss     HEATHEN, n. A benighted creature who has the folly
Vashon WA      to worship something that he can see and feel.
               -- Ambrose Bierce: The Devil's Dictionary

 
 
 

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Post by Tejay Schwar » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Without King calling the shots on a Tyson fight, as undisputed champ,
Lewis shoud get the lion share.  i see no problem in Lennox winning big
eather. however, i am not so sure i care if this even happens. plus i'm
not so sure Tyson won't stumble on his way to this fight.

Bermuda Schwartz

 
 
 

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Post by Patrick Keho » Wed, 02 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> > By Lewis calling out Tyson, he accomplishes many things:
> > 1. By firing the first shot, he avoids any "ducking" controversy when Tyson
> > gets by Contestant #1 (Schultz/whoever) then Briggs.
> > 2. His people will call the shots, not Don King.
> > 3. He could possibly avoid the boring mandatory vs. Akinwande/Ruiz
> > 4. He could command the richest purse in boxing history.
> > 5. It would enrich his legacy as a great champion.

> Plus he would probably kick Tyson's ass. It's a master ploy, because Tyson
> is hard-pressed to turn this one down. Tyson might get away with demanding
> a few warmup fights, but as long as the Lewis challenge is out there,
> Tyson is trapped like spider in a web. But if Tyson (justifiably) gets a
> warmup fight or two, Lewis may not be able to avoid the Akinwande/Ruiz
> mandatory.

You know Ivan... you say Tyson is trapped like a spider in a web...
interesting... I have a sense of it that he'd LOVE to fight Lewis... I really
do... I think he'd be willing to hang in there for 5 or 6 rounds hoping to land
one of his ice-makers on Lewis' not-brick-like chin... now I am no Tyson fan,
never have been and I doubt he'd get in that home-run ball of a right on Lewis
before Lewis bombed him first... BUT... if there is anyone in the top 5 Tyson
might think has an exploitable weakness made for his declining arsenal (pure
power being about it)... I'd wager he'd pick Lewis... he knows a Holyfield fight
would be a fight to the death for both of them... their version of Ali-Frazier in
Manilla... Ike is out of Tyson's league now... Grant would be total danger... Tua
would be just pure pain for little compensation... Lewis MIGHT appear to be his
last great window of opportunity... a mega star with a history of fading in and
out of fights at unexpected times (McCall, Bruno)... Tyson could see himself as
McCall times 5... just a thought...

Patrick Kehoe

 
 
 

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Post by Michael W Haug » Thu, 03 Jun 1999 04:00:00

<snip>
: Even though most objective boxing observers consider Tyson somewhere between
: "past his prime" and "shot", I give Lewis some credit for coming right out and
: firing the first shot.

You are so very correct.  There will be oodles of deluded fans who believe
it is still sometime between 1986 and 1990.

: When and if Lewis gets done with Holyfield, you know there are a lot of
: knuckleheads out there that will pollute the world screaming for this match to
: be made.  Lewis is smart to recognize this, and effectively, force Tyson to
: declare his intentions by taking the fight within a reasonable amount of time,
: or by declining the fight and confirming what many already believe; that he has
: no desire to fight Lewis, and that his intentions upon returning to boxing are
: suspect.

I don't know if Lewis and his manager are trying to take the high road on
this one so much.  IMO, this is goading Tyson's team into a high profile,
big money, low risk fight for Lewis.  Essentially what he complained that
other fighters were doing -- instead of fighting him -- when he didn't land
certain matchups over the years.
--
        -mwh

 
 
 

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Post by Michael W Haug » Thu, 03 Jun 1999 04:00:00

: By Lewis calling out Tyson, he accomplishes many things:
: 1. By firing the first shot, he avoids any "ducking" controversy when Tyson
: gets by Contestant #1 (Schultz/whoever) then Briggs.

* Smart strategy.

: 2. His people will call the shots, not Don King.

* Again, smart strategy

: 3. He could possibly avoid the boring mandatory vs. Akinwande/Ruiz

* A plus for the fans

: 4. He could command the richest purse in boxing history.

* A plus for Lewis

: 5. It would enrich his legacy as a great champion.

* Wishful thinking on Lewis' and his fans' part.  Winning wars against
current contenders, at the top of their game should do more for his legacy
in the long run.  How many people regard Trevor Berbick as a fighter with a
legacy of a "great champion?"
--
        -mwh

 
 
 

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Post by Colin Bake » Thu, 03 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>I have a sense of it that he'd LOVE to fight Lewis... I really do...

Didn't he forfeit the WBC belt rather than fight Lennox?  And that was
before he went to jail the second time.
 
 
 

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Post by BOXINGBU » Thu, 03 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>5. It would enrich his legacy as a great champion.

* Wishful thinking on Lewis' and his fans'
part.  Winning wars against current contenders, at the top of their game should
do more for his legacy in the long run.  How many people regard Trevor Berbick
as a fighter with a legacy of a "great champion?"
-mwh

Tyson already IS a legend who will be talked about well into the next
millenium. 20 years from now, people will still be talking Lewis/Tyson even if
it's a way past primetime Tyson.

 
 
 

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Post by Conrad Ki » Thu, 03 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I reckon that Lewis is making a couple of mistakes in his "calling
out" of Tyson.

Firstly he is looking beyond the rematch with Evander, which is not
too clever. Ok IMO he won the first, but he didn't blow Hollyfield
away. Hollyfield could still really get up for the rematch and cause
an upset. If Lewis is already thinking about a Tyson cash fight, then
he is not taking the threat of hollyfield seriously........Dangerous
to do!

Secondly, I have always thought that Lewis would be more suceptible to
Tysons overhand right, than he was to hollyfields hooks. Again, I'm
not saying that Tyson will win, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised
if he scored a spectacular early KO of Lewis (I also wouldn't be
surpired to see Lewis blow away the "shadow" Tyson that fought against
Botha.

It must be a chess thang to look so many moves ahead, I just dn't
reckon it is a clever boxing thang

Just my opinion.

Conrad

 
 
 

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Post by Bria » Thu, 03 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Again, I'm
>not saying that Tyson will win, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised
>if he scored a spectacular early KO of Lewis (I also wouldn't be
>surpired to see Lewis blow away the "shadow" Tyson that fought against
>Botha.

You forgot to leave out that you wouldn't be surprised if Lewis won a
decision...but then people might think you're sitting on the fence.
 
 
 

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Post by Patrick Keho » Thu, 03 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Colin,
The money then wasn't there... the circumstances were not favourable in
many respects and King had a LOT to do with that move... now Tyson can
get/sneak back ahead of all the rest (he must believe) facing a fighter
who has shown vunerability to the big shot out of the blue... Lennox has
been a favourite of mine since 1985 (and for many Canadians, his
professional defection notwithstanding)...  still... Mike must see it as
the best of the hard roads which lay before him...  and it's just my
opinion, of course...

Patrick Kehoe

Quote:

> >I have a sense of it that he'd LOVE to fight Lewis... I really do...

> Didn't he forfeit the WBC belt rather than fight Lennox?  And that was
> before he went to jail the second time.