I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by rodmanst.. » Sat, 23 Mar 2013 23:23:34


Maybe George was paid to keep quiet about the fact that a certain "***sucker" in boxing who we all known fixed the Ali vs Foreman fight in Zaire by having a certain someone slip George some tranquilizing medication? Or Maybe George's good heart was appealed to by someone who told him that if he persisted in telling people the truth (which is he had been drugged) it would not be good for Boxing and it would not be good for kids who look up to Ali as a role model. How anyone could believe that Ali could have beaten George Foreman is beyond my thinking. I mean look at what George did to Frazier,and Norton? Those guys both had the firepower to destroy Ali. Ali was no better than those two. It goes against some kind of natural law of physics that Ali prevailed over George Foreman. George was drugged.
 
 
 

I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by SkippyP » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 01:55:05

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>Maybe George was paid to keep quiet about the fact that a certain "***sucker" in boxing who we all known fixed the Ali vs Foreman fight in Zaire by having a certain someone slip George some tranquilizing medication? Or Maybe George's good heart was appealed to by someone who told him that if he persisted in telling people the truth (which is he had been drugged) it would not be good for Boxing and it would not be good for kids who look up to Ali as a role model. How anyone could believe that Ali could have beaten George Foreman is beyond my thinking. I mean look at what George did to Frazier,and Norton? Those guys both had the firepower to destroy Ali. Ali was no better than those two. It goes against some kind of natural law of physics that Ali prevailed over George Foreman. George was drugged.

George hasn't blown the lid off of it because it isn't true.

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I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by Wbs.. » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 02:49:36

That fight wasn't fixed.  George pounded the hell out of Ali.  No matter how hard you hit, there's alwys someone who can take it.  Ali could take it, and that surprised George.

 
 
 

I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by Emanuel Ber » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:50:32

Quote:

> George was drugged.

You already told us this. I believe that you believe it. But I don't
believe it. I don't think you can convince a whole lot of people. But
even if you could, what's the point? So relax.

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I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by David Danie » Sun, 24 Mar 2013 23:26:31

The point is that we must always.....ALWAYS remember the Alamo!!!!!!!!!!
Ok Mr. Iceberg? O the humanity!
 
 
 

I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by skinnystev » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:45:12

Quote:

>Maybe George was paid to keep quiet about the fact that a certain "***sucker" in boxing who we all known fixed the Ali vs Foreman fight in Zaire by having a certain someone slip George some tranquilizing medication? Or Maybe George's good heart was appealed to by someone who told him that if he persisted in telling people the truth (which is he had been drugged) it would not be good for Boxing and it would not be good for kids who look up to Ali as a role model. How anyone could believe that Ali could have beaten George Foreman is beyond my thinking. I mean look at what George did to Frazier,and Norton? Those guys both had the firepower to destroy Ali. Ali was no better than those two. It goes against some kind of natural law of physics that Ali prevailed over George Foreman. George was drugged.

  got any comments on any current fights ?
 
 
 

I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by Mentalguy2k » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:23:35


Quote:
>Maybe George was paid to keep quiet about the fact that a certain
>"***sucker" in boxing who we all known fixed the Ali vs Foreman fight in
>Zaire by having a certain someone >slip George some tranquilizing
>medication? Or Maybe George's good heart was appealed to by someone who
>told him that if he persisted in telling people the truth (which is he had
> >been drugged) it would not be good for Boxing and it would not be good for
>kids who look up to Ali as a role model. How anyone could believe that Ali
>could have beaten George >Foreman is beyond my thinking. I mean look at
>what George did to Frazier,and Norton? Those guys both had the firepower to
>destroy Ali. Ali was no better than those two. It goes >against some kind
>of natural law of physics that Ali prevailed over George Foreman. George
>was drugged.

I think Ali got inside Foreman's head before and during the fight, and also
did his homework. He out-thought and out-fought Foreman. Foreman fell for
the Ali trash-talking, tried to KO him with almost every punch, and wore
himself out. Ali just soaked it all up and waited for Foreman to tire.
Foreman's stamina ran out but it doesn't mean he was drugged. I think
towards the end of the fight they both looked as fatigued as each other, but
look at the amount of work Foreman put in over 8 rounds, he exhausted
himself and Ali had just enough left to finish it.
 
 
 

I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by paulkincai.. » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:10:16

Quote:



> >Maybe George was paid to keep quiet about the fact that a certain

> >"***sucker" in boxing who we all known fixed the Ali vs Foreman fight in

> >Zaire by having a certain someone >slip George some tranquilizing

> >medication? Or Maybe George's good heart was appealed to by someone who

> >told him that if he persisted in telling people the truth (which is he had

> > >been drugged) it would not be good for Boxing and it would not be good for

> >kids who look up to Ali as a role model. How anyone could believe that Ali

> >could have beaten George >Foreman is beyond my thinking. I mean look at

> >what George did to Frazier,and Norton? Those guys both had the firepower to

> >destroy Ali. Ali was no better than those two. It goes >against some kind

> >of natural law of physics that Ali prevailed over George Foreman. George

> >was drugged.

> I think Ali got inside Foreman's head before and during the fight, and also

> did his homework. He out-thought and out-fought Foreman. Foreman fell for

> the Ali trash-talking, tried to KO him with almost every punch, and wore

> himself out. Ali just soaked it all up and waited for Foreman to tire.

> Foreman's stamina ran out but it doesn't mean he was drugged. I think

> towards the end of the fight they both looked as fatigued as each other, but

> look at the amount of work Foreman put in over 8 rounds, he exhausted

> himself and Ali had just enough left to finish it.

I think you just nailed it. Foreman ( young version) clearly had stamina issues if a fight got into the middle/late rounds. It wasn't until his successful comeback, at close to 40 years of age, that he finally understood how to pace himself in the ring.
 
 
 

I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by Mentalguy2k » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:21:07


Quote:



>> >Maybe George was paid to keep quiet about the fact that a certain

>> >"***sucker" in boxing who we all known fixed the Ali vs Foreman fight
>> >in

>> >Zaire by having a certain someone >slip George some tranquilizing

>> >medication? Or Maybe George's good heart was appealed to by someone who

>> >told him that if he persisted in telling people the truth (which is he
>> >had

>> > >been drugged) it would not be good for Boxing and it would not be good
>> > >for

>> >kids who look up to Ali as a role model. How anyone could believe that
>> >Ali

>> >could have beaten George >Foreman is beyond my thinking. I mean look at

>> >what George did to Frazier,and Norton? Those guys both had the firepower
>> >to

>> >destroy Ali. Ali was no better than those two. It goes >against some
>> >kind

>> >of natural law of physics that Ali prevailed over George Foreman. George

>> >was drugged.

>> I think Ali got inside Foreman's head before and during the fight, and
>> also

>> did his homework. He out-thought and out-fought Foreman. Foreman fell for

>> the Ali trash-talking, tried to KO him with almost every punch, and wore

>> himself out. Ali just soaked it all up and waited for Foreman to tire.

>> Foreman's stamina ran out but it doesn't mean he was drugged. I think

>> towards the end of the fight they both looked as fatigued as each other,
>> but

>> look at the amount of work Foreman put in over 8 rounds, he exhausted

>> himself and Ali had just enough left to finish it.

> I think you just nailed it. Foreman ( young version) clearly had stamina
> issues if a fight got into the middle/late rounds. It wasn't until his
> successful comeback, at close to 40 years of >age, that he finally
> understood how to pace himself in the ring.

Foreman himself said years later that he made all kinds of excuses for
losing after that fight, because he simply didn't know how to deal with
losing. He was 40-0 or something before that fight, throwing dozens of huge
shots and not visibly hurting Ali must have played havoc with his mind and
his stamina. And he took a lot of good shots too.
 
 
 

I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by Emanuel Ber » Fri, 29 Mar 2013 23:32:21

Quote:
> I think Ali got inside Foreman's head before and during the fight,
> and also did his homework. He out-thought and out-fought
> Foreman. Foreman fell for the Ali trash-talking, tried to KO him
> with almost every punch, and wore himself out. Ali just soaked it
> all up and waited for Foreman to tire.

That's exactly right (from what I've heard, read, and seen, many
decades later). It was believed that Foreman was bigger and stronger,
and that Ali would "dance" around (yuk - that word) and jab: Foreman's
bet was to trap Ali by the ropes and then hammer him. However, the
fight didn't transpire that way: Ali seemingly had no objections going
to the ropes, nailing George with straight rights (not the jab). In
fact, Ali did lots of this in sparring: pain management, but also
defensive boxing (or whatever you'd like to call it). This turn of
events (in the fight) surprised George, but it also surprised Ali's
corner, who in despair urged Ali to do the old "dance" stuff. But it
was even more confusing to Foreman, because he found himself in the
strange situation that his tactics worked, only they didn't.

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I'm convinced George Foreman has some kind of reason to not blow the lid off the fixed fight with Ali in Zaire!

Post by sugarlansk.. » Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:43:29

Ali won primarily by holding and hitting; the Big Guy, now successful beyond all dreams, doesn't need to complain about what happened.