Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by T » Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:00:00


DLH - Rivera Dec 6

Is this a mismatch, expected to be boring or what?

RSB discussion seems limited and I'm curious what fans think.

Cheers, TT

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by The Sanity Cruze » Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

> DLH - Rivera Dec 6

> Is this a mismatch, expected to be boring or what?

> RSB discussion seems limited and I'm curious what fans think.

For one, IMO it says something about the lack of women on RSB.  Two, it
says something about DLH's popularity.  Three, it says something about
how e***d people are (not) about the upcoming fight.

                             The Sanity Cruzer

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by John W Bra » Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>DLH - Rivera Dec 6

>Is this a mismatch, expected to be boring or what?

It's expected to be a blowout, and most of us are a little, or
more than a little, ticked at the Golden Boy for essentially taking
'97 off since his fight with Whitaker.

Fights with Kamau, Camacho, and Rivera are nothing but appetizers
for a star like De La Hoya.  

Now that De La Hoya is on the outs with Arum, I expect to see more of
the same in '98.  

--Bragg

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by Bria » Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
>Now that De La Hoya is on the outs with Arum, I expect to see more of
>the same in '98.  

whats makes you say he's on the outs with Arum?
 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by Wesley Whi » Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:00:00

   More than likely people from RSB will buy the card more for
Marquez-Campas than the Main event.

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by Rojas » Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I'll take a stab at this. I think the DLH-Rivera fight will tell us a little
more about Oscar's power at welter.  If he can't KO Rivera, that will not bode
well for his fight against Norris.  Norris may have a
suspect chin, but only hard punching jr. middles have been able to
take him out convincingly.  Also if Rivera can hurt DLH, that would
mean big trouble against Norris.  Similarly, Keith Mullings will be a
good test for Norris.  I look at this card as a good opportunity to see and
compare both DLH and Norris up close. My guess is that
DLH will show better handspeed and defense than Norris.  On the
other hand, I think Norris may have better punching ability and stamina.  We'll
see.  

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by T » Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>I'll take a stab at this. I think the DLH-Rivera fight will tell us a little
>more about Oscar's power at welter.  If he can't KO Rivera, that will not bode
>well for his fight against Norris.  Norris may have a
>suspect chin, but only hard punching jr. middles have been able to
>take him out convincingly.  Also if Rivera can hurt DLH, that would
>mean big trouble against Norris.  Similarly, Keith Mullings will be a
>good test for Norris.  I look at this card as a good opportunity to see and
>compare both DLH and Norris up close. My guess is that
>DLH will show better handspeed and defense than Norris.  On the
>other hand, I think Norris may have better punching ability and stamina.  We'll
>see.  

Thanks. A reason to watch the fights on Dec 6.

TT

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by Nelson Patenau » Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>    More than likely people from RSB will buy the card more for
> Marquez-Campas than the Main event.

  The chance to see the Terrible One wets my appetite as well.  Seems Arum
has realized that the main event is a dog so hes getting a couple good
matches signed on the undercard for the first time in ages.

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Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by monte chritense » Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
>It's expected to be a blowout, and most of us are a little, or
>more than a little, ticked at the Golden Boy for essentially taking
>'97 off since his fight with Whitaker.

This is a easy fight for DLH IMHO.  But not a abolute mismatch blowout.
Rivera is a decent fighter but probalby not top 5, but maybe top 10.  He put
up 2 pretty good performances against Whitaker and in fact really beat
Whitaker in one of them.

Quote:
>Fights with Kamau, Camacho, and Rivera are nothing but appetizers
>for a star like De La Hoya.

I would claim tha the Camacho fight was a pretty easy fight.  The Kamu fight
was somewhat tougher.  Kamu has only lost one time and had given Chavez
quite a battle in '95 and took a lot of punches.  I actually had Kamu
beating Chavez by one point.  The DLH KO of Kamu was pretty impressive.  And
don't forget the DLH beat Whitaker in April of this year.  By far his worst
performance but a win over a fighter the quality of Whitaker (while not at
his best still considered top 10 P4P) is not little accomplishment.    And
on top of that in January of this year he decisively beat Miguel Angel
Gonzales.  That is a very tough fight from a young undefeated fighter.  I
expect MAGO to be one of the best at 140 in the next few years.  So all in
all I would say 1997 was a great year for DLH.  The only fighter I can think
of taking on better opponents this year was Quartey with his fight with
Carr, Jones, and Lopez.  Trinidad fought virtually nobody of note and Norris
was even less inspiring this year.

The undercard for this fight looks pretty good though

Marquez-Campas - Two fighters who both have looked very suspect in recent
fights.  But both are capable of huge efforts.

Norris-Mullings - Mullings looked very good against Marquez in a fight I
thought he narrowly won.

But I think Norris-Mullings is off but I am not sure of that.

Quote:
>--Bragg

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by The Sanity Cruze » Thu, 27 Nov 1997 04:00:00

Quote:

>   The chance to see the Terrible One wets my appetite as well.  

So long as you don't 'whet' your pants in anticipation. ;->

                        The Sanity Cruzer

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by Michael Wint » Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I have only seen Kamu fight DLH. In that fight, however, Kamu looked
stubborn in his fight plan, a plan that was miserable against DLH's
attack. Kamu seemed to relentlessly pursue DLH directly with little
lateral movement or attempts to counter punch. I don't know how Kamu
usually beats his opponents, but from the opening bell he looked like a
lost soul against DLH's defense. It wasn't what DLH did that won him
the fight, but Kamu's absurd tactics which made Kamu lose. And so, I
remain unimpressed with Oscar.

mw

: The DLH KO of Kamu was pretty
impressive.

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by Al Bar » Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
>Now that De La Hoya is on the outs with Arum, I expect to see more of
>the same in '98.  

>--Bragg

 On the outs with Arum? And your basis for saying this is what?
--
Al Bardo
 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by b.. » Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:00:00



Quote:

> I have only seen Kamu fight DLH. In that fight, however, Kamu looked
> stubborn in his fight plan, a plan that was miserable against DLH's
> attack. Kamu seemed to relentlessly pursue DLH directly with little
> lateral movement or attempts to counter punch. I don't know how Kamu
> usually beats his opponents, but from the opening bell he looked like a
> lost soul against DLH's defense. It wasn't what DLH did that won him
> the fight, but Kamu's absurd tactics which made Kamu lose. And so, I
> remain unimpressed with Oscar.

Yeah, Kamau's tactics sucked!  ... and Camacho's!  ...and Chavez's! ...
and Hernandez's!... and... nevermind. :)

Brian

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Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by YENDOR » Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:00:00

I am not a huge DLH fan but I think DLH fighting Rivera is fine.Rivera is a
good fighter and a worthy challenger even if he only lasts a few rounds.Much
better than David Kamau  at welterweight.Ofcourse I would rather see DLH vs.
Trinidad.

 
 
 

Why no DLH - Rivera Discussion?

Post by d.. » Sat, 29 Nov 1997 04:00:00


Quote:

>I have only seen Kamu fight DLH. In that fight, however, Kamu looked
>stubborn in his fight plan, a plan that was miserable against DLH's
>attack. Kamu seemed to relentlessly pursue DLH directly with little
>lateral movement or attempts to counter punch. I don't know how Kamu
>usually beats his opponents, but from the opening bell he looked like a
>lost soul against DLH's defense. It wasn't what DLH did that won him
>the fight, but Kamu's absurd tactics which made Kamu lose. And so, I
>remain unimpressed with Oscar.

>mw

>: The DLH KO of Kamu was pretty
>impressive.

                        Michael,

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                        summers, and falls.

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                        had no plan, and he had no balls.

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