Mayorga vs. Forrest (Early Stoppage)?

Mayorga vs. Forrest (Early Stoppage)?

Post by Mr. » Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:55:23


Does anyone else think that Marty Denkin may have been a bit premature in
stopping the fight?  Come on, these where two "world champions" in there,
with a lot on the line.

I was very surprised that Forrest didn't protest the stoppage - it might
have not made any difference as he was obviously hurt but hurt enough to
warrant a stoppage?  I think that Forrest MIGHT have been able to hold on
and survive the round.....what the hell was Denkin doing with the finger
movement?  Has anyone else ever seen a ref do that?  I might be out of line,
but when I saw that Denkin was the ref, and Mayorga being promoted by
King...........maybe I'm being paranoid....

Any thoughts?

Southpaw

 
 
 

Mayorga vs. Forrest (Early Stoppage)?

Post by Contention » Tue, 28 Jan 2003 03:23:00

I agree that the stoppage appeared a bit premature. With that said, Mayorga is
a monster puncher, and may have very well finished it that round. And as a
champion, Forrest should have been given that opportunity.
What impressed me most about Mayorga was his hand speed. Very quick. Of course,
his biggest strength is that attitude he has like Duran in his prime. It will
be interesting to see where both fighters go from here.
Eric

 
 
 

Mayorga vs. Forrest (Early Stoppage)?

Post by BoxMuh » Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:45:58

Quote:
>From: "Mr. \"X\""
>I was very surprised that Forrest didn't protest the stoppage

          I think that Forrest, being the one who had just risen from the deck,
knew that he was mincemeat had Mayorga been allowed to have back at him.
           It was a good stoppage.  Where will Forrest go from here?

           I bet SSM's thinking about a third fight right about now.

                 BoxMuhammad

 
 
 

Mayorga vs. Forrest (Early Stoppage)?

Post by Marc » Tue, 28 Jan 2003 05:49:06

From the comfort of my living room, at the moment of the stoppage, I thought
it was slightly premature.  That being said, Forrest didn't protest.  That
told me it was probably a good decision.


Quote:
> Does anyone else think that Marty Denkin may have been a bit premature in
> stopping the fight?  Come on, these where two "world champions" in there,
> with a lot on the line.

> I was very surprised that Forrest didn't protest the stoppage - it might
> have not made any difference as he was obviously hurt but hurt enough to
> warrant a stoppage?  I think that Forrest MIGHT have been able to hold on
> and survive the round.....what the hell was Denkin doing with the finger
> movement?  Has anyone else ever seen a ref do that?  I might be out of
line,
> but when I saw that Denkin was the ref, and Mayorga being promoted by
> King...........maybe I'm being paranoid....

> Any thoughts?

> Southpaw

 
 
 

Mayorga vs. Forrest (Early Stoppage)?

Post by Mtnm » Tue, 28 Jan 2003 06:13:57

Quote:

> Does anyone else think that Marty Denkin may have been a bit premature in
> stopping the fight?  Come on, these where two "world champions" in there,
> with a lot on the line.

> I was very surprised that Forrest didn't protest the stoppage - it might
> have not made any difference as he was obviously hurt but hurt enough to
> warrant a stoppage?  I think that Forrest MIGHT have been able to hold on
> and survive the round.....what the hell was Denkin doing with the finger
> movement?  Has anyone else ever seen a ref do that?  I might be out of line,
> but when I saw that Denkin was the ref, and Mayorga being promoted by
> King...........maybe I'm being paranoid....

> Any thoughts?

> Southpaw

I think that if the fight was allowed to continue Mayorga could have
been able to follow up with some hard punches and not only ended the
fight but also could have psychologically hurt Forrest even worse i.e.
Vargas after the Trinidad fight. I think Mayorga's chin surprised
Forrest (it surprised me) and was not used to the relentless pressure.
In the Mosely fights Forrest was always able to stop Shane in his
tracks with the overhand right but Mayorga was able to shake it off. I
think a rematch would eventually wind up the same way with the only
difference that Vernon would take longer to get out of his gameplan. I
think Vernon has too much pride not to try to slug it out with this
guy.
 
 
 

Mayorga vs. Forrest (Early Stoppage)?

Post by WindupAthei » Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:44:13

The ref was wagging his fingers in front of VF's face, but he was looking off
at something behind the ref's head.  Good stoppage.

***   ***   ***   ***

"I never claimed to be a God. I just chose the right position, and that makes
it very easy to defend. The people who chose the other position are fools, and
that's not my problem."  --  M. Wong

 
 
 

Mayorga vs. Forrest (Early Stoppage)?

Post by John Liako » Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:28:08

Refs don't usually wave finger, doctors do, which is why I was really
surprised with the action of the ref. In my opinion having the fighter walk
a couple of steps toward the ref would have been a better option.

Although I disagree with the method used to determine Forrest's condition, I
do agree with the stoppage. Besides VF would have been ko'd badly have the
fight continued.

On a different note, compare this stoppage to the one Zab Judah suffered.
Forrest's stoppage looked a lot more premature yet there was no controversy
there. With Zab it was as though a crime had been committed, to the extent
were Zab felt compelled to take action himself.


Quote:
> The ref was wagging his fingers in front of VF's face, but he was looking
off
> at something behind the ref's head.  Good stoppage.

> ***   ***   ***   ***

> "I never claimed to be a God. I just chose the right position, and that
makes
> it very easy to defend. The people who chose the other position are fools,
and
> that's not my problem."  --  M. Wong