Just saw Forrest-Mayorga

Just saw Forrest-Mayorga

Post by Noma » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 11:25:20


Just saw Forrest-Mayorga for the first time. After reading different
peoples impressions here are mine. Mayorga is a skilled boxer with
better defence than I expected him to have , he isn't a pot shotter but
throws multiple punches in the exchanges. He is faster than I expected.
His power at 147 is very good maybe the best at that weight since Trinidad

  Forrest better move a lot more in the rematch. I don't know if Forrest
has the legs to move for 12 rounds, I doubt it. I'm not writing Vernon
off at all and he very well could beat Mayorga in the rematch but it
    is gonna be a long night.

Someone said Mayorga came through the ropes at 161 , he appeared very
solid . Forrest was hit behind the head in every round and no doubt that
contributed to the knockdown in the third round. He probably could have
continued but likely would have taken a couple of huge shots and got
really hurt.

  I can see Mayorga giving the junior-middleweights a run for their
money too.

The post fight interviewer Merchant seemed to want to create a media
driven made up persona for Mayorga by giving him a cigarette after the
fight...it sends some kind of message

 
 
 

Just saw Forrest-Mayorga

Post by Bill » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 12:40:14


Quote:
> Just saw Forrest-Mayorga for the first time. After reading different
> peoples impressions here are mine. Mayorga is a skilled boxer with
> better defence than I expected him to have , he isn't a pot shotter but
> throws multiple punches in the exchanges. He is faster than I expected.
> His power at 147 is very good maybe the best at that weight since Trinidad

>   Forrest better move a lot more in the rematch. I don't know if Forrest
> has the legs to move for 12 rounds, I doubt it. I'm not writing Vernon
> off at all and he very well could beat Mayorga in the rematch but it
>     is gonna be a long night.

I agree and no matter how well he boxes in the rematch, he just may not have
all the tools necessary to beat Mayorga - but it's the only hope he has.
The question I have concerning Mayorga is whether or not HE can keep up that
barrage for 12 rounds. I'm curious to see what happens if someone takes him
into the late rounds.

Quote:
> Someone said Mayorga came through the ropes at 161 , he appeared very
> solid . Forrest was hit behind the head in every round and no doubt that
> contributed to the knockdown in the third round. He probably could have
> continued but likely would have taken a couple of huge shots and got
> really hurt.

I think the ref was afraid Mayorga would turn on him if he said anything
about those shots.  ; )

Naw really, that fight just got out of hand because emotions were running so
high but I really do hope the next referee does a better job of keeping both
fighters honest.

Quote:
>   I can see Mayorga giving the junior-middleweights a run for their
> money too.

Yeah, I just don't think a proposed fight with Tzsyu will ever happen unless
Tszyu moves up which would be a dangerous move at this late stage. But like
you say, Mayorga is a pretty big guy and a move to jr middle shouldn't be
much of a problem for him. I think he would carry plenty of power to that
weight.

 
 
 

Just saw Forrest-Mayorga

Post by Noma » Mon, 03 Feb 2003 13:52:45

Quote:

> I agree and no matter how well he boxes in the rematch, he just may not have
> all the tools necessary to beat Mayorga - but it's the only hope he has.
> The question I have concerning Mayorga is whether or not HE can keep up that
> barrage for 12 rounds. I'm curious to see what happens if someone takes him
> into the late rounds.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I have no doubt about Mayorga's
ability to take a good punch so it would take 2 or 3  punches on a sweet
spot before he would be in serious trouble
A De la Hoya vs Mayorga fight would be a good one from a technical
viewpoint as Oscar is probably the best tactitian in the ring today.
Could Oscar absorb the huge shots that Mayorga throws and KO him in the
later rounds like he did to Vargas?  Thinking of that fight makes one
wonder how Vargas would fare against Mayorga....

Quote:

> Yeah, I just don't think a proposed fight with Tzsyu will ever happen unless
> Tszyu moves up which would be a dangerous move at this late stage. But like
> you say, Mayorga is a pretty big guy and a move to jr middle shouldn't be
> much of a problem for him. I think he would carry plenty of power to that
> weight.

- - - -
There is no way Kostya Tszyu should move up to Welterweight, he just
isn't big enough. Kostya's power at 140 is good ... not great as we saw
when he fought Vince Philips who is a naturally bigger man and took
Kostya's best shots into the 10th round before stopping Tszyu. Kostya
has early round wins against guys with weaker chins but most his
stoppage wins come as a result of an accumulation of punches over
several rounds. Tszyu's style is a little too much of a gunslinger for
my tastes but he only has one loss and it makes for great fights to watch.

 
 
 

Just saw Forrest-Mayorga

Post by xyz » Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:20:14

Quote:



>> Just saw Forrest-Mayorga for the first time. After reading different
>> peoples impressions here are mine. Mayorga is a skilled boxer with
>> better defence than I expected him to have , he isn't a pot shotter but
>> throws multiple punches in the exchanges. He is faster than I expected.
>> His power at 147 is very good maybe the best at that weight since
Trinidad

>>   Forrest better move a lot more in the rematch. I don't know if Forrest
>> has the legs to move for 12 rounds, I doubt it. I'm not writing Vernon
>> off at all and he very well could beat Mayorga in the rematch but it
>>     is gonna be a long night.

>I agree and no matter how well he boxes in the rematch, he just may not
have
>all the tools necessary to beat Mayorga - but it's the only hope he has.
>The question I have concerning Mayorga is whether or not HE can keep up
that
>barrage for 12 rounds. I'm curious to see what happens if someone takes him
>into the late rounds.

This is one excellent way to look at a rematch. If Forrest can box for six
or seven rounds--not run, but stick and move, clinch, do whatever is
necessary to keep Mayorga off balance--will Mayorga be in good enough shape
to stay with Forrest?

It seems to make all the sense in the world--no reason for Forrest to once
again try to brawl with Mayorga.

 
 
 

Just saw Forrest-Mayorga

Post by Razta1 » Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:07:35

I hope Vargas steers clear of Mayorga for his own sake. You just know that the
fight would turn into a balls-in-the-wind macho war where both guys would take
more punishment than was worth it. Frankly, I think Vargas gets knocked out
brutally around the 5th or 6th round. If that one sneaky left hook that DLH
smacked him with in the 10th hurt him so bad that it led to a KO, right now
Mayorga decapitates his ass. Early.