Well, What do you think.

Well, What do you think.

Post by Brian Dav » Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:33:56


So far for me, tonite's Legendary Nights Episode on the Holyfield-Bowe trilogy
was the best yet.   Take that opinion with a grain of salt considering that I
am a Huge Holyfield fan.

In a recent interview about their first fight, Evander Holyfield said that Bowe
hurt him so bad in that tenth round that his feet went numb.  What would a
lesser fighter do if beaten up that bad?  No, he came back that round and put
on a spirited battle.

It is suprising that Bowe came out the worse for wear from those fights than
Evander did.  I guess some bodies are made for taking punishment and some
aren't.  

For those of you who thinks Riddick Bowe is going to come back, Forgetabouttit.
 He is so far outta shape, so rich and didn't like to train properly when he
was fighting, the possibility of him doing what it takes to get back into
fighting shape is nil.

Brian Davis
Riverdale, IL

PETE ROSE BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME!

 
 
 

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Post by pabl » Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:11:17


Quote:
> For those of you who thinks Riddick Bowe is going to come back,
Forgetabouttit.
>  He is so far outta shape, so rich and didn't like to train properly ...

He wouldn't be the first boxer to blow a fortune, and certainly not the
first one to fight despite the fact he shouldn't. Let's hope it doesn't
happen despite this threats.

...pablo

 
 
 

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Post by NICHOLAS D » Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:21:38

Brian,

Bowe is going to jail not culinary school. I imagine him being tested in
prison a few times and doing some soul searching and training. His first
comeback fight should be against Golota, lol!

-Nick :)


Quote:
> So far for me, tonite's Legendary Nights Episode on the Holyfield-Bowe
trilogy
> was the best yet.   Take that opinion with a grain of salt considering
that I
> am a Huge Holyfield fan.

> In a recent interview about their first fight, Evander Holyfield said that
Bowe
> hurt him so bad in that tenth round that his feet went numb.  What would a
> lesser fighter do if beaten up that bad?  No, he came back that round and
put
> on a spirited battle.

> It is suprising that Bowe came out the worse for wear from those fights
than
> Evander did.  I guess some bodies are made for taking punishment and some
> aren't.

> For those of you who thinks Riddick Bowe is going to come back,
Forgetabouttit.
>  He is so far outta shape, so rich and didn't like to train properly when
he
> was fighting, the possibility of him doing what it takes to get back into
> fighting shape is nil.

> Brian Davis
> Riverdale, IL

> PETE ROSE BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME!


 
 
 

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Post by pabl » Sat, 26 Apr 2003 01:56:57


Quote:
> So far for me, tonite's Legendary Nights Episode on the Holyfield-Bowe
trilogy
> was the best yet.   Take that opinion with a grain of salt considering
that I
> am a Huge Holyfield fan. ...

I like Holyfield myself, he never remotely moved one inch away from any
challenge, and has always had the attitude that ought to define a champion.
That attitude in an era of boxers that are far more comfortable taking an
easier path is what makes him an unforgettable fighter of the post-Tyson
era.

That said, no way was this episode the best. First of all, they dwelled way
too long on the damn Fan Man crap. You only got 30 minutes for 3 fights,
come on, just brush over it, because it had no significance in the end, and
it just feeds nutcases looking for shortcuts to "celebrity" when you
acknoledge their sh*t like this. The intro building up to the fights was
also a bit lengthy and not as informative as it could have been, although I
digged being remembered of Holyfield vs Qawi, which was a kick*ss fight - to
me more memorable than the Holyfield-Bowe encounters, but then again, this
is again an example of heavyweight worship at its best.

Also - given the discussions we've had on Bowe and his skills as of late, I
found it amusing *none* of the snippets of him showed him punching straight
once, he was always flailing away, wide open in the middle and over both
hands. His uppercuts on the inside were a thing of beauty, though.

I'd rank several of the other episodes over Holyfield-Bowe, though.

...pablo

 
 
 

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Post by Brian Dav » Sat, 26 Apr 2003 06:54:23

Funny you shoyuld say that.  It was a straight right that KOed Evander in the
third fight.


Quote:

>Also - given the discussions we've had on Bowe and his skills as of late, I
>found it amusing *none* of the snippets of him showed him punching straight
>once, he was always flailing away, wide open in the middle and over both
>hands. His uppercuts on the inside were a thing of beauty, though.

Brian Davis
Riverdale, IL

PETE ROSE BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME!

 
 
 

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Post by Brian Dav » Sat, 26 Apr 2003 06:54:54

Funny you shoyuld say that.  It was a straight right that KOed Evander in the
third fight.


Quote:

>Also - given the discussions we've had on Bowe and his skills as of late, I
>found it amusing *none* of the snippets of him showed him punching straight
>once, he was always flailing away, wide open in the middle and over both
>hands. His uppercuts on the inside were a thing of beauty, though.

Brian Davis
Riverdale, IL

PETE ROSE BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME!

 
 
 

Well, What do you think.

Post by Brian Dav » Sat, 26 Apr 2003 06:55:02

Funny you shoyuld say that.  It was a straight right that KOed Evander in the
third fight.


Quote:

>Also - given the discussions we've had on Bowe and his skills as of late, I
>found it amusing *none* of the snippets of him showed him punching straight
>once, he was always flailing away, wide open in the middle and over both
>hands. His uppercuts on the inside were a thing of beauty, though.

Brian Davis
Riverdale, IL

PETE ROSE BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME!

 
 
 

Well, What do you think.

Post by Brian Dav » Sat, 26 Apr 2003 09:53:07

Funny you shoyuld say that.  It was a straight right that KOed Evander in the
third fight.


Quote:

>Also - given the discussions we've had on Bowe and his skills as of late, I
>found it amusing *none* of the snippets of him showed him punching straight
>once, he was always flailing away, wide open in the middle and over both
>hands. His uppercuts on the inside were a thing of beauty, though.

Brian Davis
Riverdale, IL

PETE ROSE BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME!

 
 
 

Well, What do you think.

Post by pabl » Sat, 26 Apr 2003 13:26:21


Quote:
> Funny you shoyuld say that.  It was a straight right that KOed Evander in
the
> third fight.

Really, you need your eyes checked if you call that "straight" - it goes
from the back over Bowe's head while he's leaned forward into Holyfield and
lands from the side up top. Not one part of it was straight. watch it again.
I just did, courtesy of DVD, to make sure I wasn't missing something. And,
by the way, the third fight was very poor overall, and anyone that uses it
to argue "boxing skills" has a major issue to start with. Bowe landed maybe
3 jabs that looked good, but his handspeed looked abysmal, and Holyfield's
inability to get away from that speaks volumes. Guys panting and just wining
from round 3 on ain't "boxing skills".

...pablo

 
 
 

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Post by BoxMuh » Sat, 26 Apr 2003 13:43:53

Quote:
>From: "pablo"
>by the way, the third fight was very poor overall, and anyone that uses it
>to argue "boxing skills" has a major issue to start with.

        That third fight was *nothing* like the first two.  The first two were
great fights.  The *** match was very sloppy.  Holyfield had never looked so
sluggish before, and neither had Bowe.
          Riddick was nearly KO'd shortly before Evander suddenly lost all of
his steam.  It was kind of an ugly night; two ex-champs looking to get back on
top but looking used in the process.

          After that fight, Bowe's bouts with Golota, in retrospect, are no
surprise.  Holyfield's reemergence to become "the man" for another three years
was a big surprise.  

              BoxMuhammad

 
 
 

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Post by Blade Of Sorr » Sat, 26 Apr 2003 19:21:44

Quote:
>Holyfield had never looked so
>sluggish before,

Is it just me or is this the first time I hear about Evander fighting with
Hepatitis? I did hear about his heart condition, but never about this disease.
If that is the case then surely Holyfield would have won that fight easy. As it
is, and I hate to say it since I am a huge Holyfield fan, but it sounds like an
excuse. Evander is not known to be a liar, but......