Oscar v. Tito in September?

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Colin Bake » Sun, 16 May 1999 04:00:00


Borges reported that Arum put a $10 million offer on the table to King for a
September bout, and to hear Borges say it, there are no strings or sabotage
bombs attached to it that would make Tito's group turn it down.  This
surprises me--I never thought Arum would permit the fight to be made so soon
after Quartey (even though I certainly believe it ought to have been made
much earlier).  I don't know how much Tito's people had been demanding
though, and how much a "fair value" fight would be to them.  But the offer
certainly sounds genuine, and not a typical Arum publicity stunt designed to
permit him to say that he made an "offer" that was unpalatable and had to be
turned down.
 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by abori.. » Sun, 16 May 1999 04:00:00

trinidad wants $10 million for himself but bob arum wants to give him
$10 million to split with don king, tito would get $7 million and don
would get $3 million.trinidad say i dont think so.
why should he pay don king out of his money? DLH is going to get over
$20 million and im afriad to even think of what bob arum is going to
make out of this fight.arum doesn't want don king near this fight so he
should pay him his $3 million and give tito his $10 million,bob and
oscar are still going to make twice that amount for themselfs so why are
they being so cheap?
arum says that oscar is going to be co-promotor for this fight and thats
why he doesn't want king involved in the promotion(yeah right).
    i think its all just an excuse not to make this fight happen.they're
going around telling everyone that they offered tito the 10 million he
wanted but they dont tell everyone the whole story.
         tito by knockout in the 6th or 7th

 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Bria » Sun, 16 May 1999 04:00:00

If Tito turns down 10 Million, he has no right to complain that Oscar is ducking
him.  Especially when Tito is fighting nobodies in Puerto Rico while Oscar is
fighting Ike Quartey.

 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Dennis~The Phantom Mena » Sun, 16 May 1999 04:00:00

Well,Tito has to fight Vincent Pettway he's the number 1 contender for
his IBF title..he can demand more money because tthis is the fight the
public wants to see.

Darth Vader wants you for DEAD!!
dennis

 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Bria » Mon, 17 May 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>Well,Tito has to fight Vincent Pettway he's the number 1 contender for
>his IBF title..he can demand more money because tthis is the fight the
>public wants to see.

Thanks for sharing your great information with us...
 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by BOXINGBU » Mon, 17 May 1999 04:00:00

If Tito turns down 10 Million, he has no right to complain that Oscar is
ducking him.  

Amen brother.  And if Tito is all that, he can make it all back if he wants to
give DLH a rematch when he's unified champ.
Let's get it on!!!

 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Al Bar » Mon, 17 May 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
>  I don't know how much Tito's people had been demanding
> though, and how much a "fair value" fight would be to them.  But the offer

Trindad's Father says his son deserves the same money that Oscar is
getting. Fat chance.
--
Al Bardo
 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Bria » Mon, 17 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Trindad's Father says his son deserves the same money that Oscar is
>getting. Fat chance.

Yeah maybe if Trinidad spoke a word of English or if thousands of girls loved
his looks.
 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Patrick Keho » Mon, 17 May 1999 04:00:00

Al,
Ya... you know Al, when I hear things like this (Tito Sr. saying he wants equal
money) I just shake my head... it sounds soooooo ridiculous, so sophimoric and
transparent... the attempt being to stoke his son's bragining price (solidify
his position at the table)... which is just plain and simple a weak hand... PR
is Tito best friend... Oscar's boasts about his historic mission to be the P4P
all time best is Tito's strongest bargining position... the media expectation of
sustained greatness is Tito's surest route to the fight... all Tito has to do is
remain there on the daunting horison, presenting Oscar and his atomic ego with
THEE fight of his career... Tito is in position... He's THE OTHER legend in the
makeing and the law of deduction necessitates each has to engage the other...
with the media now fueling Oscar's journey toward greatness... the media, which
loves Oscar's presence, persona and celebrity now are a co-efficient in this the
apex years of his career... 10mil, if on the up and up and not Arum's prom hype
artistry again is big, serious, just money given the event, the magnitude and
what each brings to the fight... I love Tito and hope and expect he would/will
win the encounter BUT he's not the market persona here... he's not the cash
cow... he's not the limelight, media darling... he's not the principle financial
generator in this fight and doesn't deserve the same kind of money Oscar should
get... now... if he wins a rematch would/will have totally different
circumstances necessitating a different monetary share(ing)... for now take the
10mil Tito and let your fists lead you to the promised land!

Patrick Kehoe

Quote:



> >  I don't know how much Tito's people had been demanding
> > though, and how much a "fair value" fight would be to them.  But the offer

> Trindad's Father says his son deserves the same money that Oscar is
> getting. Fat chance.
> --
> Al Bardo

 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Al Bar » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00


says...
Quote:
> When thinking about how Don King uses every angle to his own advantage, my
> cynical mind does not rule out the possibility of Felix's dad playing the
> front man for the purse demands here.  Don may have him thinking that this
> will ultimately put more money in Felix's pocket.  But, we all know where
> every dollar that can be skimmed ends up when DK's involved.

You've brought up a valid scenario here. I agree it could be a
machination of King's devious mind.
--
Al Bardo
 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by AZUSA- » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

I echo your thoughts, this is a way of avoiding the fight, and saving
face in the publics eye, how can't everyone see this? There has always
been something or other before ODLH fights to either buy time to not let
a certain bout come off. Then we will be fed a rematch or another
Patrick Charpentier will show up and get a fight. All the meanwhile, we
will read that the other parties were the reason the BIG fight didn't
evolve. Enough of that already, IF they really want to fight Trinidad,
they will. The public has no say in how much either gets, so why even
tell the public that a fighter demands any amount? It is no more than a
smoke screen!!!

LUGO, Mr P.

 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Al Bar » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00


says...
Quote:
> Yeah maybe if Trinidad spoke a word of English or if thousands of girls loved
> his looks.

It wouldn't hurt.
--
Al Bardo
 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Al Bar » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00


says...
Quote:
>  love Tito and hope and expect he would/will
> win the encounter BUT he's not the market persona here... he's not the cash
> cow... he's not the limelight, media darling... he's not the principle financial
> generator in this fight and doesn't deserve the same kind of money Oscar should
> get... now... if he wins a rematch would/will have totally different
> circumstances necessitating a different monetary share(ing)... for now take the
> 10mil Tito and let your fists lead you to the promised land!

I think Felix Sr, if it's true that he's the holdout, is being really
silly. If Tito really beleives he can beat Oscar, he should take the
fight. So he gets less this time; for the rematch, he'll get more, plus
confirm his ring greatness. By turning down the 10 million, he looks like
he's scared of Oscar. Even King wants the fight--that should really tell
you something. I agree with those who say that the real reason why Tito
Sr would turn down the bout is that he's actually not sure that Tito can
beat Oscar, even though Tito Jr clearly believes he can.
--
Al Bardo
 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Alessandro De Salv » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

Al Bardo ha scritto nel messaggio ...

Quote:
>>... for now take the
>> 10mil Tito and let your fists lead you to the promised land!

That's right...10 millions are enough in my opinion to prove the best
welterweight in the world and deserving the chance to make even more money
in a possible rematch

Quote:
>I think Felix Sr, if it's true that he's the holdout, is being really
>silly.  By turning down the 10 million, he looks like
>he's scared of Oscar.

Maybe he his. And maybe he just want to make the highest possibile amount of
money for him and his kid. but again, 10 millions are a good payday.

My prediction (maybe more a wish than a prdiction) is that Tito can beat
Oscar on points, or by KO in the later rounds.

Alessandro "BoxeItalia" De Salve

 
 
 

Oscar v. Tito in September?

Post by Michael W Haug » Wed, 19 May 1999 04:00:00

<snip>
: I think Felix Sr, if it's true that he's the holdout, is being really
: silly. If Tito really beleives he can beat Oscar, he should take the
: fight. So he gets less this time; for the rematch, he'll get more, plus
: confirm his ring greatness. By turning down the 10 million, he looks like
: he's scared of Oscar. Even King wants the fight--that should really tell
: you something. I agree with those who say that the real reason why Tito
: Sr would turn down the bout is that he's actually not sure that Tito can
: beat Oscar, even though Tito Jr clearly believes he can.
: --
: Al Bardo

When thinking about how Don King uses every angle to his own advantage, my
cynical mind does not rule out the possibility of Felix's dad playing the
front man for the purse demands here.  Don may have him thinking that this
will ultimately put more money in Felix's pocket.  But, we all know where
every dollar that can be skimmed ends up when DK's involved.
--
        -mwh