Limey Zilla Stateside for April 2013 Bout, Talking Rubbish

Limey Zilla Stateside for April 2013 Bout, Talking Rubbish

Post by That SOB Van Owe » Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:00:47


In case you didn't feel the ground tremor when he stepped off the
airplane, the UK's Tyson Fury is over here for an heavyweight clash
against Philly's Steve Cunningham at Madison Square Garden on April
20.

At the press conference, Just Tall That's All Fury opined that he
could defeat not just Cunningham, but at once Cunningham and every
able-bodied Philadelphia man. He attempted to negotiate the imprinting
of his Twitter account on the soles of Cunningham's shoes.

Fury is the 5' 21" undefeated Traveler (means gypsy fighting man)
venturing outside the UK for only the second time. Despite a local and
barely-okay level of opposition, Ring Magazine has seen fit to edge
him up its rankings, currently to #9.

Cunningham 6' 3"  is an all-round solid former cruiserweight champion,
and sailor, who's fought just twice at heavyweight, but performed very
well, though losing, against Tomasz Adamek Ring's #5.

I see it as another case of Fury taking maddeningly middling
competition. In other words he's taking guys he's somewhat
overqualified for, but nonetheless guys who are not pushovers. They're
not "tomato cans." I watched some online video of Cunningham, he's fit
and youthful-looking at 36, he's a big enough man and not any sort of
artificial heavyweight, but he's going to be at an immense height and
reach disadvantage. Fury's probably going to handle him like doing 48
minutes of arithmetic, and in the event Cunningham lands a little
something, Fury is shown well capable of husband-like hugging, in
which he'll sway like a king-size mattress on Cunningham's head and
shoulders, lolling around at referee-broken intervals, until he's got
his head back. I don't really see how Cunningham can beat this guy but
if he comes out to play, sure, stranger things have happened and
Cunningham is the master of his own fate.

Prediction: I see a fit and impatient Fury around round 5 or 6
realizing he's fairly safe and can have his way with Cunningham, going
for and achieving the knockout at round 7 or thereabout.

That SOB Van Owen  

 
 
 

Limey Zilla Stateside for April 2013 Bout, Talking Rubbish

Post by Mr.Will Musi » Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:41:00


Quote:

>>That would be pretty exasperating for boxing fans in the UK and Ireland
>>should they have >>to watch as another of their best prospects gets
>>soundly beaten - within just a couple of >>months, no less.

To be honest, I doubt much of the UK would be that upset. Think over here he
is known to be a bit of a hype and all "traveller" fairy tales etc. I
actually thought Price was a far better prospect - so would not surprise me
to see Fury go down to anyone really.
That said, I also think he is carefully matched - much better managed etc.
so I also assume anyone who gets the fight with him is a light puncher and
not really brought in with a view to winning or even testing him.
I think Fury was even giving the game away when his sensitive little self
was ranting about him fighting a blown up cruiserweight with no power.
Cunningham's camp showed far more class....which is surprising given they
are the Americans from the rough neighbourhood.

Mr.Will

 
 
 

Limey Zilla Stateside for April 2013 Bout, Talking Rubbish

Post by Mentalguy2k » Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:17:04


Quote:




>>>That would be pretty exasperating for boxing fans in the UK and Ireland
>>>should they have >>to watch as another of their best prospects gets
>>>soundly beaten - within just a couple of >>months, no less.

> To be honest, I doubt much of the UK would be that upset. Think over here
> he is known to be a bit of a hype and all "traveller" fairy tales etc.

You beat me to it. I certainly wouldn't be upset, I'd like to see him
flattened and finished.

Quote:
> I actually thought Price was a far better prospect - so would not surprise
> me to see Fury go down to anyone really.
> That said, I also think he is carefully matched - much better managed etc.
> so I also assume anyone who gets the fight with him is a light puncher and
> not really brought in with a view to winning or even testing him.
> I think Fury was even giving the game away when his sensitive little self
> was ranting about him fighting a blown up cruiserweight with no power.
> Cunningham's camp showed far more class....which is surprising given they
> are the Americans from the rough neighbourhood.

I think it's a sad reflection on heavyweight boxing when fighters like Price
and Fury have their management talking about them going after Klitschko,
with a straight face. And that they both think that beating a succession of
journeymen punchbags or fat cruiserweights somehow makes them automatic
World title challengers. Audley Harrison would have disappeared without
trace 20 years ago, but the sheer dearth of current decent heavyweights
means he's been embarrassingly beaten, retired and made a comeback 47 times.
Again 20 years ago, Price and Fury would have been fighting each other for
belts and the right to challenge Wlad, not knocking over a few unknown
British patsies and calling him out. It's embarrassing.

Neither of them will ever win a title from Wlad, there's just no chance.

 
 
 

Limey Zilla Stateside for April 2013 Bout, Talking Rubbish

Post by Mr.Will Musi » Mon, 25 Mar 2013 20:06:37


Quote:






>>>>That would be pretty exasperating for boxing fans in the UK and Ireland
>>>>should they have >>to watch as another of their best prospects gets
>>>>soundly beaten - within just a couple of >>months, no less.

>> To be honest, I doubt much of the UK would be that upset. Think over here
>> he is known to be a bit of a hype and all "traveller" fairy tales etc.

> You beat me to it. I certainly wouldn't be upset, I'd like to see him
> flattened and finished.

>> I actually thought Price was a far better prospect - so would not
>> surprise me to see Fury go down to anyone really.
>> That said, I also think he is carefully matched - much better managed
>> etc. so I also assume anyone who gets the fight with him is a light
>> puncher and not really brought in with a view to winning or even testing
>> him.
>> I think Fury was even giving the game away when his sensitive little self
>> was ranting about him fighting a blown up cruiserweight with no power.
>> Cunningham's camp showed far more class....which is surprising given they
>> are the Americans from the rough neighbourhood.

> I think it's a sad reflection on heavyweight boxing when fighters like
> Price and Fury have their management talking about them going after
> Klitschko, with a straight face. And that they both think that beating a
> succession of journeymen punchbags or fat cruiserweights somehow makes
> them automatic World title challengers. Audley Harrison would have
> disappeared without trace 20 years ago, but the sheer dearth of current
> decent heavyweights means he's been embarrassingly beaten, retired and
> made a comeback 47 times. Again 20 years ago, Price and Fury would have
> been fighting each other for belts and the right to challenge Wlad, not
> knocking over a few unknown British patsies and calling him out. It's
> embarrassing.

> Neither of them will ever win a title from Wlad, there's just no chance.

Well I don't think there is anything new about all this - I've long been
frustrated with the likes of the tv channels trying to tell us the fighter
we are seeing is the next Ali&Tyson combined - especially with heavyweights.
To be fair it is the job of the tv station to hype things and make us want
to watch, so I guess that stuff isn't aimed at the likes of me, but I feel
the only honest coverage I've seen has been of Martin Rogan - the cabbie who
over-achieved.
The rest - you can describe as prospects, but not world champions like SKY
and ITV have tried to sell us time and again. John McDermott was being sold
to us as this amazing next coming......and so on!
Tyson Fury is just the latest.

Mr.Will

 
 
 

Limey Zilla Stateside for April 2013 Bout, Talking Rubbish

Post by That SOB Van Owe » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:05:23


Quote:
>Agree that Fury should win this contest, but not sure he stops
>Cunningham. For a man of his size, Fury has a fair bit of mobility and
> very decent speed, but not a lot of pop in his punches. I would lean
>towards a points victory over the more experienced, but much smaller
>American fighter. In any case, it should be an interesting match to watch.

Yah, I enjoyed listening to that, thank you. Yes, Roland was the best
of them, and he was betrayed by a mate.

That SOB Van Owen

PS: As near as any mere fan can be, I am sure Fury stops Cunningham.
Do you imagine a man of his size is unable to put SHAZAM! on a punch
when all his other attributes have set him up for it? I do not think
it will be interesting.

 
 
 

Limey Zilla Stateside for April 2013 Bout, Talking Rubbish

Post by That SOB Van Owe » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 06:21:41

Quote:

>With good/excellent preparation for Cunningham, if he doesn't get
>psyched out his jock strap, recall the words of Ali when asked about
>fighting wilt Chamberlain: "Timber!"

>DCI

In your day, I mean, the previous of your days, the guy could be set
up with a week plus of free ***s and booze, and walk in hungover
and dazed. As it is, there's trainer Peter Fury ringing the alarm
clock in the morning, riding Luke one short of blowout, and enforcing
the curfew.

That SOB Van Owen

 
 
 

Limey Zilla Stateside for April 2013 Bout, Talking Rubbish

Post by DCI » Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:21:14


Quote:

> >With good/excellent preparation for Cunningham, if he doesn't get

> >psyched out his jock strap, recall the words of Ali when asked about

> >fighting wilt Chamberlain: "Timber!"

> >DCI

> In your day, I mean, the previous of your days, the guy could be set

> up with a week plus of free ***s and booze, and walk in hungover

> and dazed. As it is, there's trainer Peter Fury ringing the alarm

> clock in the morning, riding Luke one short of blowout, and enforcing

> the curfew.

> That SOB Van Owen

:)

DCI