Naz-Barrera

Naz-Barrera

Post by Bob Bail » Wed, 15 May 1996 04:00:00


In Naseem's own words, "he only has to turn up".  Barrera does not know what is about to hit him.  If he is lucky he may see round 4, but I doubt it.  Naz is one of those rare talents that comes along once a lifetime, if you are lucky.  Yes I know he is an arrogant so and so who could do with bringing down a peg or two, but the man can afford to be because he can back it up. Naz will become a legend, he will be spoken of in the way we now speak of Ali, Leonard, Hagler Chaves etc.  I can honestly say with my hand on my heart that I believe he has the potential to become the greatest there has ever been, the only danger is if he becomes too confident. The only man alive capable of beating him is himself.

 
 
 

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Post by Ricardo Lo » Thu, 16 May 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
Bailey) writes:

>In Naseem's own words, "he only has to turn up".  Barrera does not

know what is about to hit him.  If he is lucky he may see round 4, but
I doubt it.  Naz is one of those rare talents that comes along once a
lifetime, if you are lucky.  Yes I know he is an arrogant so and so who
could do with bringing down a peg or two, but the man can afford to be
because he can back it up. Naz will become a legend, he will be spoken
of in the way we now speak of Ali, Leonard, Hagler Chaves etc.  I can
honestly say with my hand on my heart that I believe he has the
potential to become the greatest there has ever been, the only danger
is if he becomes too confident. The only man alive capable of beating
him is himself.
Ok propaganda agent for Naseem.  Give me one GOOD fighter he has mixed
it up with?  Remember, Morrison, Briggs, Jorge Gonzalez, all lucked
like GREAT talents knocking out bums...

Ricardo

 
 
 

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Post by John O'Donoghu » Thu, 16 May 1996 04:00:00

I agree with ya bud,
The Naz is a rare fighter and he will beat Barrera.

 
 
 

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Post by monte christens » Thu, 16 May 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>In Naseem's own words, "he only has to turn up".  Barrera does not know what is
>about to hit him.  If he is lucky he may see round 4, but I doubt it.  Naz is on
>e of those rare talents that comes along once a lifetime, if you are lucky.  Yes
> I know he is an arrogant so and so who could do with bringing down a peg or two
>, but the man can afford to be because he can back it up. Naz will become a lege
>nd, he will be spoken of in the way we now speak of Ali, Leonard, Hagler Chaves
>etc.  I can honestly say with my hand on my heart that I believe he has the pote
>ntial to become the greatest there has ever been, the only danger is if he becom
>es too confident. The only man alive capable of beating him is himself.

Without even looking I know this must be from a .UK person?  Yeah right!
Sure, Hamed has some talent.  I saw his win over Robinson and it was a
great performance. But who else has he fought?  How come he isn't active?
Barerra beat a great fighter in McKinney and is very active.  Based on
accomplishments at this point I think barerra wins hands down.  Hamed
just hasn't taken on the level of Barerra or been as active.  If your
last sentence is really true, and he believes this, why won't he fight
more often?  He is going to have to fight outside of England to take on
the best 122-126lbers in the world.

--
Monte Christensen              | "Work is causing me to lose my religion"

 
 
 

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Post by David Jackso » Thu, 16 May 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
> Ok propaganda agent for Naseem.  Give me one GOOD fighter he has mixed
> it up with?  Remember, Morrison, Briggs, Jorge Gonzalez, all lucked
> like GREAT talents knocking out bums...

> Ricardo

robinson, and before you start saying "robinson was never that good..etc"
let me explain, robinson was an exelent test for naz at that point in
naz's carreer, what you have to remember is naz has not had that much of
a carreer yet, he is fighting alicia next, give him a chance to prove
himself and then jugde him.

regards.

DJ   "if there is a man here I have not insulted,
      then I apologise"

                       Johann Brahms

 
 
 

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Post by Matad » Thu, 16 May 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>> Ok propaganda agent for Naseem.  Give me one GOOD fighter he has mixed
>> it up with?  Remember, Morrison, Briggs, Jorge Gonzalez, all lucked
>> like GREAT talents knocking out bums...

>> Ricardo
>robinson, and before you start saying "robinson was never that good..etc"
>let me explain, robinson was an exelent test for naz at that point in
>naz's carreer, what you have to remember is naz has not had that much of
>a carreer yet,

Not much of a career??? With all the Naz lovers here I figured he had climbed
Mt. Vesuvius and challenged the almighty himself! You praise him to the heavens
and then have the gall to say he hasn't much of a career yet? unbelievable.

Trash talk, fancy moves, hype. All mean nothing. The ring's the thing.

 
 
 

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Post by SFrost52 » Thu, 16 May 1996 04:00:00

First the English guys compare Hamed to ALI and then they say give him a
chance to prove himself!  What gives?  Sounds like a pretty weak argument
to me.

 
 
 

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Post by Ricardo Lo » Fri, 17 May 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>let me explain, robinson was an exelent test for naz at that point in
>naz's carreer, what you have to remember is naz has not had that much
of
>a carreer yet, he is fighting alicia next, give him a chance to prove
>himself and then jugde him.

    Well since he hasn not had much of a carrer yet, do not hype him as
the second coming?  I mean alicia is nothing but another tomato can.
He needs to get tested.  Much like McKinney tested Barrera.  

Ricardo From Hawthorne

 
 
 

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Post by Joel Bla » Fri, 17 May 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
Jackson") writes:

> what you have to remember is naz has not had that much of
>a carreer yet, he is fighting alicia next, give him a chance to prove
>himself and then jugde him.

Nobody would deny Hamed a chance to prove himself. The problem is that
his fans think he already has.

Joel

 
 
 

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Post by David Jackso » Fri, 17 May 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Without even looking I know this must be from a .UK person?  Yeah right!
> Sure, Hamed has some talent.  I saw his win over Robinson and it was a
> great performance. But who else has he fought?

give him time, he cant fight everyone at once.

   How come he isn't

Quote:
> active?

if activity(or lack of it) was a measure to a fighters ability, then bowe
would not even rank in the top ten heavywieghts today.

Quote:
> Barerra beat a great fighter in McKinney and is very active.

what is that supposed to prove, barrerra fights a lot, so what?

   Based on

Quote:
> accomplishments at this point I think barerra wins hands down.  Hamed
> just hasn't taken on the level of Barerra or been as active.

if your looking at records then i agree, but as we both know a record can
meen nothing once the first bell rings, also his promoter(frank warren)
ofered the barrera camp a fight with naz, they are still waiting for an
answer, if barrera is so great why did he not say yes straight away?

      If your

Quote:
> last sentence is really true, and he believes this, why won't he fight
> more often?

that is something you will have to ask him.

   He is going to have to fight outside of England to take on

Quote:
> the best 122-126lbers in the world.

his plans include the above.

Quote:
> --
> Monte Christensen              | "Work is causing me to lose my
> religion"


DJ   "if there is a man here I have not insulted,
      then I apologise"

                       Johann Brahms

 
 
 

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Post by David Jackso » Fri, 17 May 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
> Ok propaganda agent for Naseem.  Give me one GOOD fighter he has mixed
> it up with?  Remember, Morrison, Briggs, Jorge Gonzalez, all lucked
> like GREAT talents knocking out bums...

> Ricardo

you have got to start somewhere, and your argument against hyped fighters
does not hold water, as for every fighter from which much was promised
but did not deliver, there is probably 3 or 4 that did deliver, so it
works both ways.

DJ   "if there is a man here I have not insulted,
      then I apologise"

                       Johann Brahms

 
 
 

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Post by David Jackso » Fri, 17 May 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
> First the English guys compare Hamed to ALI and then they say give him a
> chance to prove himself!  What gives?  Sounds like a pretty weak
> argument
> to me.

Can you please show me where ali came into my argument?

DJ   "if there is a man here I have not insulted,
      then I apologise"

                       Johann Brahms

 
 
 

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Post by David Jackso » Fri, 17 May 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> >let me explain, robinson was an exelent test for naz at that point in
> >naz's carreer, what you have to remember is naz has not had that much
> of
> >a carreer yet, he is fighting alicia next, give him a chance to prove
> >himself and then jugde him.

>     Well since he hasn not had much of a carreer yet, do not hype him as
> the second coming?  I mean alicia is nothing but another tomato can.
> He needs to get tested.  Much like McKinney tested Barrera.  

> Ricardo From Hawthorne

Ricardo, please look back at my postings some time ago about naz, I said
it then and will say it again, naz's carreer is still pretty much in its
infancy, he is still an upcoming fighter, he has great boxing skills but
as you(and myself on many occasions) have said he needs testing, this
will surely happen in time, I know there are some in this newsgroup who
are saying he is the greatest fighter ever, just as we cant say he is
"the greatest" at this point in his carreer, we can also not say "he is
all hype", the fact of the matter is he is not far enough into his
carreer to jugde him, all I was trying to say to everyone is, be patient,
only time will tell us if he has what it takes or not, until then we
can't jugde him either way, so before we cast judgement on naz, let him
get a bit of a carreer behind him.

regards.

DJ   "if there is a man here I have not insulted,
      then I apologise"

                       Johann Brahms

 
 
 

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Post by David Jackso » Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
> Not much of a career??? With all the Naz lovers here I figured he had
> climbed Mt. Vesuvius and challenged the almighty himself! You praise
> him to the heavens and then have the gall to say he hasn't much of a
> career yet? unbelievable.

> Trash talk, fancy moves, hype. All mean nothing. The ring's the thing.

If you are going to reply to my post, then at least have the dignity to
not misquote me, it was the irishman that was praising him to the
heavens, but it was me who said he did not have much of a carrer yet, if
you are going to reply, at least get it right.

regards.

DJ   "if there is a man here I have not insulted,
      then I apologise"

                       Johann Brahms

 
 
 

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Post by David Jackso » Tue, 21 May 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Jackson") writes:

> > what you have to remember is naz has not had that much of
> >a carreer yet, he is fighting alicia next, give him a chance to prove
> >himself and then jugde him.

> Nobody would deny Hamed a chance to prove himself. The problem is that
> his fans think he already has.

> Joel

not this fan.

DJ   "if there is a man here I have not insulted,
      then I apologise"

                       Johann Brahms