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Only months ago...

Post by Peter G Delly » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:43:33


Everyone was saying how there was no competition for Lewis...he would
dominate for as long as he stayed active, etc etc
and now he's an ex-champ! How quickly do fortunes change and opinions, too.

Lewis was complacent and got done by a guy who obviously wanted it more than
he did. I'm not so sure than Lewis would not win a return bout at sea-level,
in peak condition though.

What about Tyson-Lewis in an eliminator for the title?

Peter

 
 
 

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Post by John Fri » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:36:40


Quote:
>Everyone was saying how there was no competition for Lewis...he would
>dominate for as long as he stayed active, etc etc
>and now he's an ex-champ! How quickly do fortunes change and opinions, too.

>Lewis was complacent and got done by a guy who obviously wanted it more than
>he did. I'm not so sure than Lewis would not win a return bout at sea-level,
>in peak condition though.

>What about Tyson-Lewis in an eliminator for the title?

>Peter

Before rewatching how Rahman dominated Tua earlier today I thought his
possible coming victory over Lewis would be a fluke against an out of
shape fighter, but now I am not so sure. Rahman looked very impressive
winning every round against both Lewis and Tua. IMO Lewis will win the
rematch but it still won't be a piece of cake and he'll have to be in
top shape.

 
 
 

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Post by Melanie Le » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:31:00

On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:43:33 +0800, "Peter G Dellys"

Quote:

>What about Tyson-Lewis in an eliminator for the title?

        Eeeewwww!  Yawn.  Terrible thought.  'Nuff said.
8-)

Mel

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www.amateurboxing.com

 
 
 

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Post by Todd » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:55:06

On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:43:33 +0800, "Peter G Dellys"

Quote:
>Everyone was saying how there was no competition for Lewis...he would
>dominate for as long as he stayed active, etc etc
>and now he's an ex-champ! How quickly do fortunes change and opinions, too.

Amen, brother.  I thought Rahman had NO chance.  He deserves every
congratulations.  He may not last long as champ, but he earned this
one in a big, big way.

Quote:
>Lewis was complacent and got done by a guy who obviously wanted it more than
>he did. I'm not so sure than Lewis would not win a return bout at sea-level,
>in peak condition though.

>What about Tyson-Lewis in an eliminator for the title?

Lewis has a rematch clause, but I wonder if he is entitled to it right
away or should he have to wait his turn.  Rahman-Tyson just got more
interesting.

Todd

 
 
 

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Post by Bumstea » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:43:41

That would be PERFECT
 
 
 

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Post by Robert Phillip » Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:44:46

Quote:

> What about Tyson-Lewis in an eliminator for the title?
> Peter

That's what I was thinking after the fight, too.  Rahman (or somebody) was
crowing about "so much for Lewis-Tyson!", something like that, and they were
stating that the rematch clause might allow for Rahman to take a fight before a
rematch.  It certainly occurred to me that this might not kill the prospect of
Lewis-Tyson, it might actually help it.  Both are damaged goods right now, but
probably both are still perceived as "worthy" enough that a victory over the
other gives the winner a good claim for a shot at the title(s).  Why NOT an
eliminator?  I think a victory over Lewis would help Tyson's prestige (and
counter claims that he's still milking his old reputation), and a victory over
Tyson would help Lewis's prestige to an extent AND help his confidence.

Pie

 
 
 

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Post by Johnbo » Mon, 30 Apr 2001 03:32:47

I don't think you are seeing the subtext of Tua v. Rahman. Rahman controled
Tua, but only at a great physical cost that he could certainly not maintain
for the course of a 12 round fight. I've been watching Rahman a long time,
and while I was watching him fight Tua I saw a man moving more than he had
ever tried to before, a man who had picked up his punch output by a factor
of three, and this from a man who had shown severe late round stamina
problems. Rahman was running himself out when he got knocked out, and it was
showing. Watch that last round again - just before Tua landed that shot just
after the bell, he bulled Rahman up against the ropes and landed some
terrific body shots, and those really took what was left of him right out.
He had no steam left.

Prior to the Lewis fight he won his "up or out" fight by knockout against
Corrie Sanders. That was that Sanders really lost, IMO, because Sanders was
hurting Rahman badly with his counterpunches. He was only catching leather
when he went on the attack and stepped up to Rahman. The shoot out Sanders'
precipitated was not at all to his advantage.

Previously he had been knocked out by Oleg Maskaev, largely because I think
he decided to abandon his boring 1-2-clinch style of boxing and brawl with
one tough Russian.

Rahman is a good fighter, but severely limited. What that really means is
that Lewis badly blew it.

Johnboy


Quote:
> Before rewatching how Rahman dominated Tua earlier today I thought his
> possible coming victory over Lewis would be a fluke against an out of
> shape fighter, but now I am not so sure. Rahman looked very impressive
> winning every round against both Lewis and Tua. IMO Lewis will win the
> rematch but it still won't be a piece of cake and he'll have to be in
> top shape.