Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by Cpntri » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Oscar could have gotten Reid Or Vargas (whom he says he will never
fight), but instead his people want Castillejo. This is yet another
example  Bob Arum's bullshit pampering of De La Hoya.  I heard that De
La HOya would have rematched with Trinidad for less money but Arum
said no way.   I hate that ***!.  He gets in the way of great
matches.
 
 
 

Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by Phrank Da Slugg » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> Oscar could have gotten Reid Or Vargas (whom he says he will never
> fight), but instead his people want Castillejo. This is yet another
> example  Bob Arum's bullshit pampering of De La Hoya.  I heard that De
> La HOya would have rematched with Trinidad for less money but Arum
> said no way.   I hate that ***!.  He gets in the way of great
> matches.

But notice NEITHER fighter wants Vargas...

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Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by doggyboy2.. » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00



Quote:
> Oscar could have gotten Reid Or Vargas (whom he says he will never
> fight), but instead his people want Castillejo.

Well, I believe Castillejo is the WBC champ. I makes perfect sense to
for Oscar to move up, grab the title, ko Castillejo and redeem his
marketability. Although now I hear his camp wants Oscar to stay at
welterweight and win the WBO title, and prepare for a possible match
against Shane Mosley.

Quote:
>This is yet another
> example  Bob Arum's bullshit pampering of De La Hoya.  I heard that De
> La HOya would have rematched with Trinidad for less money but Arum
> said no way.

Well, Oscar is still the biggest draw, but I agree that if this time
ARum should be more flexible but my guess is that he doesn't really want
the rematch. Only Oscar wants it bad.

Quote:
>   I hate that ***!.  He gets in the way of great
> matches.

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Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by FightFan » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Date: Tue, 16 November 1999 03:08 PM EST



>> Oscar could have gotten Reid Or Vargas (whom he says he will never
>> fight), but instead his people want Castillejo.

>Well, I believe Castillejo is the WBC champ. I makes perfect sense to
>for Oscar to move up, grab the title, ko Castillejo and redeem his
>marketability. Although now I hear his camp wants Oscar to stay at
>welterweight and win the WBO title, and prepare for a possible match
>against Shane Mosley.

if oscar gets by kotajev (which he should), and mosley, then i'd expect him to
move up right after the mosley fight to challenge castillejo for the wbc
title......unless by that time tito goes for castillejo himself should tito get
by reid (i see trinidad beating reid because of reid's apparent weaknesses, but
you can't count reid out since he has the style to bother trinidad most....a
mover with very good handspeed).
 
 
 

Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by Ivan Weis » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Oscar could have gotten Reid Or Vargas (whom he says he will never
> fight), but instead his people want Castillejo. This is yet another
> example  Bob Arum's bullshit pampering of De La Hoya.  I heard that De
> La HOya would have rematched with Trinidad for less money but Arum
> said no way.   I hate that ***!.  He gets in the way of great
> matches.

What, you think Castillejo is chopped liver or something?

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Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by The Sanity Cruze » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


>> Oscar could have gotten Reid Or Vargas (whom he says he will never
>> fight), but instead his people want Castillejo. This is yet another
>> example  Bob Arum's bullshit pampering of De La Hoya.  I heard that De
>> La HOya would have rematched with Trinidad for less money but Arum
>> said no way.   I hate that ***!.  He gets in the way of great
>> matches.

>What, you think Castillejo is chopped liver or something?

Relative to the division's best (especially Vargas): YES!

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Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by Michael Nos » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

i heard that oscar walks around at about 152lbs. if that is true, there
is no question that he stays at 147.

and i am hearing oscar v. shane in july.

mike


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Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by abc » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

> What, you think Castillejo is chopped liver or something?

> Ivan Weiss  

> I would rate Castillejo as one of the weaker and more vulnerable

champions in boxing today, and i don't think i'm alone on that point.  It's
hard to argue against any champion from junior welterweight to middleweight
being as suceptible as castillejo.
 
 
 

Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by Thirty2R » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>if oscar gets by kotajev (which he should), and mosley, then i'd expect him
>to
>move up right after the mosley fight to challenge castillejo for the wbc
>title......unless by that time tito goes for castillejo himself should tito
>get
>by reid (i see trinidad beating reid because of reid's apparent weaknesses,
>but
>you can't count reid out since he has the style to bother trinidad most....a
>mover with very good handspeed).

Not that Oscar needs to improve his bargaining position, but having
Castillejo's belt would certainly give him some leverage, in another fight with
Tito, assuming Tito gets by Reid, and has a belt at 154# also.

It would create the perception that he isn't the challenger, his previous loss
not withstanding.  

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Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by Z.. » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Any true boxing fan that saw the last fight oscar had knows he was
robbed!!!!
            OSCAR IS THE TRUE CHAMPION, FORGET THOSE OTHER BUMS.!!!
             Now Sugar Shane Mosely and Oscar is the ultimate match.
zynx,NYC
 
 
 

Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by Met-in-PR » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Get over the loss already man!! it's not healthy for you.


Quote:
> Any true boxing fan that saw the last fight oscar had knows he was
> robbed!!!!
>             OSCAR IS THE TRUE CHAMPION, FORGET THOSE OTHER BUMS.!!!
>              Now Sugar Shane Mosely and Oscar is the ultimate match.
> zynx,NYC

 
 
 

Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by Ivan Weis » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> > What, you think Castillejo is chopped liver or something?

> > Ivan Weiss  

> I would rate Castillejo as one of the weaker and more vulnerable
> champions in boxing today, and i don't think i'm alone on that point.  
> It's hard to argue against any champion from junior welterweight to
> middleweight being as suceptible as castillejo.

That's not the question I asked. Maybe I should be more specific. Do you
think he is incapable of being competitive with De La Hoya?

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Trinidad wants Reid...Oscar wants Castillejo - Who's surprised?

Post by doggyboy2.. » Fri, 19 Nov 1999 04:00:00



Quote:

> >Date: Tue, 16 November 1999 03:08 PM EST



> >> Oscar could have gotten Reid Or Vargas (whom he says he will never
> >> fight), but instead his people want Castillejo.

> >Well, I believe Castillejo is the WBC champ. I makes perfect sense to
> >for Oscar to move up, grab the title, ko Castillejo and redeem his
> >marketability. Although now I hear his camp wants Oscar to stay at
> >welterweight and win the WBO title, and prepare for a possible match
> >against Shane Mosley.

> if oscar gets by kotajev (which he should), and mosley, then i'd
expect him to
> move up right after the mosley fight to challenge castillejo for the
wbc
> title......unless by that time tito goes for castillejo himself should
tito get
> by reid (i see trinidad beating reid because of reid's apparent
weaknesses, but
> you can't count reid out since he has the style to bother trinidad
most....a
> mover with very good handspeed).

Which is why I think James Page would be an easier opponent (because of
his style)for Tito. Reid will use his movement and speed   to try to
confuse and out-point Felix. I still see a clear victory for Felix, but
I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up a close fight. Felix by decision.

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