What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by Joel Bla » Fri, 31 May 1996 04:00:00



Quote:

>People say that there is no one in light heavy to touch him, and that
>he'd clear up. I agree, it's just that I'd like to see him do it.

As soon as Jones cleaned up the LH's everyone would yawn and say "so
what". He can not be faulted for not having a serious contender. His
best bet is for Toney to redeem himself by cleaning up the LH division
and fighting him again, but at 175 this time.

Jones

 
 
 

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by Big D at » Fri, 31 May 1996 04:00:00


Quote:



> >People say that there is no one in light heavy to touch him, and that
> >he'd clean up. I agree, it's just that I'd like to see him do it.

> As soon as Jones cleaned up the LH's everyone would yawn and say "so
> what". He can not be faulted for not having a serious contender. His
> best bet is for Toney to redeem himself by cleaning up the LH division
> and fighting him again, but at 175 this time.

> Jones

I don't think that's true.  Roy Jones Jr has to walk the walk.  If he
wants to be the only serious name in his division, he has to prove it.  He
can't just point to his success in his previous fights.  There are too
many other guys he hasn't fought, who are walking around calling
themselves the champ.

I want to see what he does with a guy who can take his punch and keep coming.

I want to see what he does with a guy who can cut off the ring and punish
his body.

The great fighters rise to the occasion and accept the challenge.

Roy Jones Jr. is currently doing neither.

If a fighter of his calibre is not actively working to unify the three
meaningful belts in his division, then he is wasting his time, and our
money.

He's only got a few years left!  The average life of a fighter is only
from age 19 to age 30!  That's only ten years!  As champion, most big name
fighters only FIGHT once or twice a year.  That means we could only expect
him to HAVE another 10 to 15 fights before he retires anyway, unless he
decides to fight once a month like Chavez did for a while.

Come on, Roy, quit putzing around!

Big D at SC

 
 
 

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by David M. Murp » Fri, 31 May 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
Black) writes:
>As soon as Jones cleaned up the LH's everyone would yawn and say "so
>what". He can not be faulted for not having a serious contender. His
>best bet is for Toney to redeem himself by cleaning up the LH division
>and fighting him again, but at 175 this time.

 Joel-
    That's assuming that Toney can ever see the lighter side of 175
again.He's over 200 and the needles still rising.........next stop,
BUTTERBEAN<g>.
               Dave

 
 
 

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by Joel Bla » Fri, 31 May 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
M. Murphy) writes:


>Black) writes:

>>As soon as Jones cleaned up the LH's everyone would yawn and say "so
>>what". He can not be faulted for not having a serious contender. His
>>best bet is for Toney to redeem himself by cleaning up the LH
division
>>and fighting him again, but at 175 this time.

> Joel-
>    That's assuming that Toney can ever see the lighter side of 175
>again.He's over 200 and the needles still rising.........next stop,
>BUTTERBEAN<g>.

Dave,

You must have missed Toney's last fight. He looked in the best shape
I've seen him in since he moved up from 160.

Joel

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What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by Joel Bla » Fri, 31 May 1996 04:00:00


(Big D at SC) writes:

Quote:




Quote:



>> >People say that there is no one in light heavy to touch him, and
that
>> >he'd clean up. I agree, it's just that I'd like to see him do it.

>> As soon as Jones cleaned up the LH's everyone would yawn and say "so
>> what". He can not be faulted for not having a serious contender. His
>> best bet is for Toney to redeem himself by cleaning up the LH
division
>> and fighting him again, but at 175 this time.

>> Jones

>I don't think that's true.  Roy Jones Jr has to walk the walk.  If he
>wants to be the only serious name in his division, he has to prove it.

 He

OK Big D,

Now its time for you to talk the talk. Name any fighters at 160 to 175
who would increase Jones' credibility. Let's see: Bernard Hopkins, no
that happen in 1993 and then Hopkins no longer was consisidered a good
test. James Toney, no that happened too and even though AT THE TIME
Toney was in the top 3 of every PFP list, afterwards he wasn't a worthy
opponent either. Prince Charles Williams...no Merqui Sosa did him in
and gee what happened to Sosa? Virgil Hill---he almost ruined the great
HBO After Dark series. Henry Maske...he and Hill would put the entire
WORLD to sleep from boredom.  

Joel  

 
 
 

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by David M. Murp » Sat, 01 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
Black) writes:
>Dave,

>You must have missed Toney's last fight. He looked in the best shape
>I've seen him in since he moved up from 160.
>Joel

 Joel-
      Your right,I did miss his last fight,although I caught the
result.Did he weigh less or just appear to be in better condition?
There's still a lot of talent there,but sometimes I think he'd
be a lot better off with a head transplant<g>.The parallels to
former LH champion Eddie Mustapha Muhammid are evident,both in
eating his way out of his career as well as his attitude/approach
to life.Eddie didn't get it until it was too late to save his
career(he has since carved out a niche as a trainer),I hope that
Toney doesn't repeat the same mistake.
                                      Dave
 
 
 

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by Joel Bla » Sat, 01 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
Murphy) writes:


>Black) writes:

>>Dave,

>>You must have missed Toney's last fight. He looked in the best shape
>>I've seen him in since he moved up from 160.

>>Joel

> Joel-
>      Your right,I did miss his last fight,although I caught the
>result.Did he weigh less or just appear to be in better condition?

Dave,

He not only weighed less, he looked like he was in great shape. Stan
Hoffman told me he was walking around at 179 for the last few months. I
thought it was hyperbole until I saw the fight.

Joel

 
 
 

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by ed » Sat, 01 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Who did Roy Jones lose to in the his Olympic championship fight? What
Olympics was it? What is happening to get Jones his belt?

 
 
 

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by Melanie L » Sun, 02 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Who did Roy Jones lose to in the his Olympic championship fight? What
>Olympics was it? What is happening to get Jones his belt?

        Roy "lost" to South Korean Park Si-Hun in the 1988 Olympics, winning the
silver medal instead of the gold.  Because officials' decisions are never
reversed in amateur boxing, nothing was done even though a protest was filed.
Reports and accusations of *** by the South Koreans came up after that
decision and has continued to be a matter of discussion.  If Jones were to be
awarded, 8 years later, the gold medal, it would have to be done at the world
(IOC and AIBA) level.  

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What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by David M. Murp » Sun, 02 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>>Black) writes:
>Dave,

>He not only weighed less, he looked like he was in great shape. Stan
>Hoffman told me he was walking around at 179 for the last few months.

I thought it was hyperbole until I saw the fight.

Quote:

>Joel

 Joel-
      Wow,I didn't think we'd ever see the possiblility of Toney in
the Lt.Heavy range again.If Stan can get him under 175 fighting weight
he'd easily beat Hill or anyone else in that range(except Roy Jones,of
course).
        Dave
 
 
 

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by Joel Bla » Mon, 03 Jun 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
M. Murphy) writes:


>>>Black) writes:

If Stan can get him under 175 fighting weight
Quote:
>he'd easily beat Hill or anyone else in that range(except Roy Jones,of
>course).

Dave,

I can't think of anyone 175 who could beat the Toney who showed up for
his last. That's why I said I thought he could use unifying the Ltheavy
titles as a way of creating credibility for a rematch with Jones at
175. It would be a good payday for both of them.

Joel  

 
 
 

What the hell is Roy Jones Jr doing?

Post by Big D at » Tue, 04 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Who did Roy Jones lose to in the his Olympic championship fight? What
> Olympics was it? What is happening to get Jones his belt?

Mel will have all the low-down on this, but Roy Jones Jr. was robbed in a
screwy decision loss to the Korean (can't remember his name) in the Seoul
Olympics (the same Olympic games in which Riddick Bowe lost out to Lennox
Lewis for the Gold) in 1988.

It's not correct to say "his belt" since they don't award belts in the
Olympics, they award medals, but there has been talk lately about an
appeal which could overturn the decision and award Jones the gold.

Talk.  That's about all for now.

Big D at SC