Joan Guzman

Joan Guzman

Post by Ivan Weis » Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:33:19


I hadn't seen Guzman in some time. He hasn't been on TV much, as inactivity
caused by injuries has robbed him of some of his elite status. He won
handily over the game and determined, but plodding and clueless Soto. But
the jump in weight classes has robbed him of the relative power advantage he
enjoyed at 122.
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ivan
 
 
 

Joan Guzman

Post by gun.. » Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:32:00


Quote:
> I hadn't seen Guzman in some time. He hasn't been on TV much, as inactivity
> caused by injuries has robbed him of some of his elite status. He won
> handily over the game and determined, but plodding and clueless Soto. But
> the jump in weight classes has robbed him of the relative power advantage he
> enjoyed at 122.
> --
> ivan

I'd like to see Guzman face PacMan or J.M. Marquez. Of course the
fight we all want to see is Pacquio- Marquez 2.

But does Manny want the fight? Some say he's planning to move up to
challenge David Diaz because he's ducking Marquez.

 
 
 

Joan Guzman

Post by sneek » Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:02:38

Arum said there is no chance of Guzman getting a Pac-Man fight until late
2008 early 2009.  The next 2 opponents on schedule are David Diaz and JMM,
and Juan Diaz as a wildcard.

Guzman is too much risk and not enough reward.  On another note, Arum said
Guzman looked bad against Soto.  First of all, I think he looked very good,
and last but not least, I dont know if people realize how good Soto really
is.  Soto looked bad because Guzman is just that good.  Soto is a hell of a
fighter and any win over him is very impressive in my eyes.


Quote:

>> I hadn't seen Guzman in some time. He hasn't been on TV much, as
>> inactivity
>> caused by injuries has robbed him of some of his elite status. He won
>> handily over the game and determined, but plodding and clueless Soto. But
>> the jump in weight classes has robbed him of the relative power advantage
>> he
>> enjoyed at 122.
>> --
>> ivan

> I'd like to see Guzman face PacMan or J.M. Marquez. Of course the
> fight we all want to see is Pacquio- Marquez 2.

> But does Manny want the fight? Some say he's planning to move up to
> challenge David Diaz because he's ducking Marquez.


 
 
 

Joan Guzman

Post by Ivan Weis » Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:25:18


Quote:
> Arum said there is no chance of Guzman getting a Pac-Man fight until late
> 2008 early 2009.  The next 2 opponents on schedule are David Diaz and JMM,
> and Juan Diaz as a wildcard.

> Guzman is too much risk and not enough reward.  On another note, Arum said
> Guzman looked bad against Soto.  First of all, I think he looked very
> good, and last but not least, I dont know if people realize how good Soto
> really is.  Soto looked bad because Guzman is just that good.  Soto is a
> hell of a fighter and any win over him is very impressive in my eyes.

Soto has a high work rate, tons of heart, and a terrific chin. He's pretty
good, all right, but I wouldn't call him a "hell of a fighter." I had to
agree with the criticism that he was getting in too close. He didn't get a
lot of leverage on his punches. He also is a bit of an arm puncher. He
"chops" with his right instead of throwing it from the shoulder and getting
full body rotation on it. Because of that, and because Guzman is so athletic
and slipped so many punches, Soto ended up wasting a lot of energy in what
was a winnable fight for him.

I agree with Arum. I have seen Guzman a lot better. He is good enough to
stand and trade more instead of slipping and sliding around the ring so
much. What weight is he supposed to fight David Diaz at, 135? Guzman would
be over his head at 135. His power hasn't shown itself at 130 even. He might
beat David Diaz, because David Diaz sucks, but Juan Diaz would own him.

I'd take Marquez over him right now, too. Guzman should try to get down to
126 if he can, where he can set down more, throw more combinations, and
become more of a puncher. He was on his way to doing that at 122, but if his
body has grown too much for him to make 126 even, he is caught in between.

The style he showed the other night will not put too many asses in the
seats. I'll be kind and chalk it up to inactivity. I was very impressed with
him earlier in his career and somehow I expected more from him.
--
ivan