spoiler - Forrest - Mayorga

spoiler - Forrest - Mayorga

Post by atho » Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:31:38


the fight

1) Is Ronnie Shields a poor trainer? After Mike Tyson seemed lost
against LL and Shields tells Vernon Forest to go straight at a power
puncher will Ronnie Shields be called as a poor trainer.

2)The ref warned Mayorga about hitting to the back of the head but if
you watch right before the ko there is a major punch to the back of
the head.

Mayorga got the job done and hats off to him, but I hated to see
Vernon toasted like that. Do you think Vernon took the fight
seriously?

Mayorga can sure take a punch.

 
 
 

spoiler - Forrest - Mayorga

Post by Ron Simpso » Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:37:43

Quote:
>Shields tells Vernon Forest to go straight at a power
>puncher will Ronnie Shields be called as a poor trainer

Shields told Forrest to go straight at Mayorga, that was the
worst thing for Vernon to do and the proof is him being TKO'd.

Forrest should have stayed on the outside, used his long jab,  the
occasional right hand and used angles.

 
 
 

spoiler - Forrest - Mayorga

Post by Bill » Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:52:18


Quote:
> the fight

> 1) Is Ronnie Shields a poor trainer? After Mike Tyson seemed lost
> against LL and Shields tells Vernon Forest to go straight at a power
> puncher will Ronnie Shields be called as a poor trainer.

> 2)The ref warned Mayorga about hitting to the back of the head but if
> you watch right before the ko there is a major punch to the back of
> the head.

 Mayorga got the job done and hats off to him, but I hated to see

Quote:
> Vernon toasted like that. Do you think Vernon took the fight
> seriously?

> Mayorga can sure take a punch.

A guy like that is a slick boxer's worst ***in nightmare. Strong, awkward,
terrific chin, and hardly no style to speak of whatsoever.
You see it all the time, sharp boxers get in the ring with a guy like
Mayorga and they get frustrated, thrown out of their rhythm, and BOOM -
KTFO.
I hated to see a class act like Forrest go down that way too, but those are
the breaks.

I didn't like all those shots to the back of the head either.

 
 
 

spoiler - Forrest - Mayorga

Post by Riepe » Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:57:52

Did you happen to count how many times Vermin Forrest spun&threw Mayorga
around too? No, I guess you missed those...


<snip>

Quote:
> I didn't like all those shots to the back of the head either.

 
 
 

spoiler - Forrest - Mayorga

Post by Bill » Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:10:46


Quote:
> Did you happen to count how many times Vermin Forrest spun&threw Mayorga
> around too? No, I guess you missed those...

That's exactly what I meant when I said he got *frustrated* , Buttweet.
Besides spinning and throwing isn't going to hurt a guy like punches to the
back of the head will.
It doesn't even matter now anyway, the fights over and there's no excuses.
Quote:


> <snip>
> > I didn't like all those shots to the back of the head either.

 
 
 

spoiler - Forrest - Mayorga

Post by BoxMuh » Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:16:25

Quote:

>1) Is Ronnie Shields a poor trainer? After Mike Tyson seemed lost
>against LL and Shields tells Vernon Forest to go straight at a power
>puncher will Ronnie Shields be called as a poor trainer.

         I don't know if it will affect Shields to that degree.  Perhaps.  But
when he was telling Forrest not to back up, I was saying, "Uh...  No."

         As Foreman clarified, of course, you don't go straight back, you back
up and circle, but Shields was definitely giving poor advice.  I'm surprised
Forrest followed it, to some degree.

         He definitely should have come out like he did at the start of the 2nd
and not let Mayorga think he was hurt by the knockdown.  But after that, he
should have tried to establish control by boxing from the outside.  Forrest
didn't fight the smartest fight.  You knew what Mayorga was going to do.  

             BoxMuhammad  

 
 
 

spoiler - Forrest - Mayorga

Post by Contention » Tue, 28 Jan 2003 03:30:54

I agree Box, Vernon should have stepped to Mayorga in the second, to
re-establish himself, but then after that, went to out-boxing him from the
outside, spinning him, etc. I think Mayorga's pressure got to Vernon, and he
felt he had to exchange to keep him off of him.
Where do both go from here? It will be interesting to see the future for both.
Eric