How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

Post by stho.. » Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:06:50


There is a 9' Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion pool table in our ba***t.  It was in the house when we bought it, but it's too big for the space that it's in, so we want to sell it.  It needs some work.  I have pictures but not sure how to post them here.  The table has a metal plate on the outer rail with the name on it, and there is another plate below on the side of the table with a listing of patent dates, June 22, 1909 being the last.  There is a swivel cup that holds chalk adjacent to this.  I found a link to a table on eBay that looks like the same model as the table in our ba***t, which sold for $2,237.  Our table would need work to look like this.

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I would appreciate any help in identifying this and figuring out what a fair price would be, given it's condition, or better still an offer.  

 
 
 

How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

Post by Mark » Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:40:30


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> There is a 9' Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion pool table in our

ba***t.  It was in the
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> house when we bought it, but it's too big for the space that it's in, so we

want to sell it.  It
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> needs some work.  I have pictures but not sure how to post them here.  The

table has a metal plate
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> on the outer rail with the name on it, and there is another plate below on

the side of the table
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> with a listing of patent dates, June 22, 1909 being the last.  There is a

swivel cup that holds
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> chalk adjacent to this.  I found a link to a table on eBay that looks like

the same model as the
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> table in our ba***t, which sold for $2,237.  Our table would need work to
look like this..

http://SportToday.org/
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> I would appreciate any help in identifying this and figuring out what a fair

price would be, given

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> it's condition, or better still an offer.

Here's a crazy thought...  post a link to some pictures of YOUR table.  If
the slate's intact and all the parts are there, it should be worth $500
bucks to somebody sight unseen.  Post up some pics man.  If it's not
built, then post picks of the rails, legs, and frame (prolly a 'boat'
frame from that era)...

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How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

Post by stho.. » Wed, 19 Sep 2012 03:25:52

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> There is a 9' Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion pool table in our ba***t. It was in the house when we bought it, but it's too big for the space that it's in, so we want to sell it. It needs some work. I have pictures but not sure how to post them here. The table has a metal plate on the outer rail with the name on it, and there is another plate below on the side of the table with a listing of patent dates, June 22, 1909 being the last. There is a swivel cup that holds chalk adjacent to this. I found a link to a table on eBay that looks like the same model as the table in our ba***t, which sold for $2,237. Our table would need work to look like this. http://SportToday.org/, given it's condition, or better still an offer.



 
 
 

How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

Post by stho.. » Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:40:52

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> There is a 9' Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion pool table in our ba***t. It was in the house when we bought it, but it's too big for the space that it's in, so we want to sell it. It needs some work. I have pictures but not sure how to post them here. The table has a metal plate on the outer rail with the name on it, and there is another plate below on the side of the table with a listing of patent dates, June 22, 1909 being the last. There is a swivel cup that holds chalk adjacent to this. I found a link to a table on eBay that looks like the same model as the table in our ba***t, which sold for $2,237. Our table would need work to look like this. http://SportToday.org/, given it's condition, or better still an offer.

Okay, I posted photos to photobucket (I think).  See if this works.

http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

Post by Mark » Wed, 26 Sep 2012 23:48:36


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> > There is a 9' Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion pool table in our

ba***t. It was in the
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> house when we bought it, but it's too big for the space that it's in, so we

want to sell it. It
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> needs some work. I have pictures but not sure how to post them here. The

table has a metal plate on
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> the outer rail with the name on it, and there is another plate below on the

side of the table with a
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> listing of patent dates, June 22, 1909 being the last.. There is a swivel

cup that holds chalk
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> adjacent to this. I found a link to a table on eBay that looks like the same

model as the table in
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> our ba***t, which sold for $2,237. Our table would need work to look like
this.

http://SportToday.org/
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> I would appreciate any help in identifying this and figuring out what a fair

price would be, given

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> it's condition, or better still an offer.

> Okay, I posted photos to photobucket (I think).  See if this works.

> http://SportToday.org/

Well done.  

So you have an old boat frame, t-rail, leather pocket table.  It needs new
pockets (up to $250 to recover the original irons) it needs the veneer
repaired and refinished (big bucks to have done right).  Not enough detail
under it to show if the slate is cracked but I'm willing to assume it's
solid.  Boat frames are pretty strudy but the t-rails are dead by modern
comparison.  My initiial $500 looks about right.  Ask for more and settle
for that

Just because it's old, doesn't mean it's valuable.  These were very common
in the 19***s and 1920s.

We had one we restored 25 years ago very much like this one (maybe even
the same model (ours was a 1917 -- the date is stamped on the underside of
the rails and sometimes on the slate).  We recovered it with new cloth,
had the veneer professionally restored and refinished, and had AE Schmidt
(St Louis) recover the irons with new leather.  We sold it installed with
equipment for $2500.  I don't think you can get your money for the
restoration back out of this one -- you'll have to find a buyer that likes
the nostalgia of it and wants to fix it up.  Good luck.

In my opinion, of course (but I know this stuff).

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How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

Post by sh.. » Sun, 30 Sep 2012 05:38:03

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> There is a 9' Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion pool table in our ba***t.  It was in the house when we bought it, but it's too big for the space that it's in, so we want to sell it.  It needs some work.  I have pictures but not sure how to post them here.  The table has a metal plate on the outer rail with the name on it, and there is another plate below on the side of the table with a listing of patent dates, June 22, 1909 being the last.  There is a swivel cup that holds chalk adjacent to this.  I found a link to a table on eBay that looks like the same model as the table in our ba***t, which sold for $2,237.  Our table would need work to look like this.

> Just for your info, the Model name of this table is not "Monarch". If it had been I might be on my way to give you at least a few Grand for it. If you go to Brunswick's web site, there are pictures of most of the antique models. The "Monarch" was Brunswick's flagship table of the time and for that matter is one of the most sought after tables on the planet. Andy Griffith bought one about 25 years ago for $75K ! Most of the Brunswick line has "Monarch Cushions" on the name plate which is often mistaken for the model name, but it was not Brunswick's practice to put Model Names on the Nameplate. The "Monarch" table was build on a cast iron leg system that had a large lion's head at each cornet with the tails towards the center of the table. Hope this helps!
Sherm

> http://SportToday.org/

> I would appreciate any help in identifying this and figuring out what a fair price would be, given it's condition, or better still an offer.

 
 
 

How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

Post by stho.. » Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:06:17

Thanks for taking the time to look and respond.

 
 
 

How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

Post by hlabrahamse.. » Tue, 09 Apr 2013 08:56:18

Have.   9. Ft.  Brunswick -  balke -   col lender. Co.    Snooker.  Table.   In.  Very.  Good.  Condition.  With.  Mother. Of.  Pearl. In.  Lay.  On. Legs.  And.  Down.  Bottom under. Side.    Never.  Been. Recondition.  Play.   Regular.  
 
 
 

How to determine a fair asking price for a Brunswick Balke Collender Monarch Cushion table

Post by Mark » Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:55:59


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> Have.   9. Ft.  Brunswick -  balke -   col lender. Co.    Snooker.  Table.  
In.  Very.  Good.
> Condition.  With.  Mother. Of.  Pearl. In.  Lay.  On. Legs.  And.  Down.

Bottom under. Side.  

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> Never.  Been. Recondition.  Play.   Regular.

Go to Brunswick's web site and see if you can find an example of it.
Unfortunately snooker tables don't hold their resale value in the US as
well as pool tables...

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