New Men's Pro Association

New Men's Pro Association

Post by RGrant » Thu, 25 Apr 1996 04:00:00


I am the husband of a ex WBPA Touring Pro and I feel that the rules that
are governing the men and the women are wrong.  I can tell you that they
are both
prejudiced to the point, where it just improves or benefits their own
cliques.
   Anne if you would like to here more send back.  Mike Panozzo I could
tell
you some wonderful  stories. The big sponership  in the WPBA  want's a
specific player but the WPBA won't let them play in the tournament, WHAT'S
WRONG WITH THAT!!!
 
 
 

New Men's Pro Association

Post by Bob Jewe » Thu, 25 Apr 1996 04:00:00

: I am the husband of a ex WBPA Touring Pro and I feel that the rules
: that are governing the men and the women are wrong.  I can tell you
: that they are both prejudiced to the point, where it just improves or
: benefits their own cliques.

Is there a specific rule that's a problem?

:    Anne if you would like to here more send back.  Mike Panozzo I
: could tell you some wonderful  stories. The big sponership  in the
: WPBA  want's a specific player but the WPBA won't let them play in the
: tournament, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT!!!

Can you be more specific?  The problem with just giving a little info
as you have done here is that it spreads fear, suspicion, rumor, and
inuendo without helping the situation.  It is clear that you don't like
something, but exactly what and why?

If you were referring to Balukas ("a specific player"), I believe that
the quarrel between her and the WPBA ended two years ago.

Bob Jewett

 
 
 

New Men's Pro Association

Post by RGrant » Fri, 26 Apr 1996 04:00:00

In reply to Bob Jewett,

This certainly is not about the "New Men's Pro Association".  If we start
a new subject regarding the Women's Profesional Billiard Association I can
explain in some detail as to what my husband is angered about.  I feel my
husband's anger and also agree with it but I am still a Pro in the WPBA
and in most cases believe that what they are doing is to better the sport
and in other cases to better "their" pocket.  I also believe there are
many cliques and prejudices on the Tour and if you would like to know more

right to express his opinions and vent his anger regarding my being on the
WPBA Tour and I certainly back him regarding this point but it is not for
me, as a current member of the WPBA, to write these stories for everyone
to read.  He, on the other hand can type away!

Rose Fabrao-Grant

 
 
 

New Men's Pro Association

Post by Anne Maye » Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> In reply to Bob Jewett,

> This certainly is not about the "New Men's Pro Association".  If we start
> a new subject regarding the Women's Profesional Billiard Association I can
> explain in some detail as to what my husband is angered about.  I feel my
> husband's anger and also agree with it but I am still a Pro in the WPBA
> and in most cases believe that what they are doing is to better the sport
> and in other cases to better "their" pocket.  I also believe there are
> many cliques and prejudices on the Tour and if you would like to know more

> right to express his opinions and vent his anger regarding my being on the
> WPBA Tour and I certainly back him regarding this point but it is not for
> me, as a current member of the WPBA, to write these stories for everyone
> to read.  He, on the other hand can type away!

> Rose Fabrao-Grant

As an addendum to Rose's comments, to offer an explanation of her being
reticent to share publicly her "stories", and to expand on my earlier
comments as to why some male professionals seem inexplicably bound to
the PBT - as professionals we are required to sign a contract with our
respective organizations.  I don't have a clue what is in the mens
contracts, but do know something about the womens.  As mentioned in
earlier post, the men are restricted by their organization from playing
in certain other events, this is similarly true for women.

The following excerpt from the WPBA "Player Handbook" will explain why
Rose cannot share her stories here:

CONDUCT

1. Members of the WPBA must not make or cause to be made any statements
(whether in writing or otherwise) or take or cause others to take action
which will or may, in the opinion of the WPBA, bring that member, the
WPBA or its agents, or the sport of billiards into disrepute.

2. Players will be responsible for following the rules/regulations as
set forth by the WPBA bylaws, the Code of Conduct and any other
regulations imposed by the tournament officials at the tournament site.

3. You are under scrutiny at any time as a professional player and as
such, must avoid behavior that would discredit your fellow
professionals, the WPBA or the sport. Actions requiring disciplinary
action include, but are not limited to: Unsportsmanlike conduct, abusive
language, profanity, public abuse of equipment, whether physical or
verbal, intentional sharking, public drunkenness, public arguments with
fellow professionals, non compliance with dress codes, rudeness to
tournament officials, sponsors or promoters, etc.

4. The WPBA may take action against any player member convicted of a
felony and restrict their participation in WPBA events.

5. Players shall not address criticism of fellow players, tournament
personnel, equipment or facilities to the press or in public. All such
complaints should be submitted in writing to the designated WPBA
representative or tournament official.

6. A first offense in any of the above instances will result in a
written warning. Second offenses will result in a $50 fine. Third
offenses will be subject to $100 fine, and further offenses will result
in fines and/or suspension from sanctioned competition.

7. Tournament officials may penalize any player abusing
rules/regulations of the tournament at their discretion, including
calling fouls, awarding games to an opponent, or forfe~hng a player's
match. Players are advised to comply with specific rules and regulations
of the event.

I too believe that the WPBA "in most cases believe that what they are
doing is to better the sport", but even if I did not believe this, I,
under penalty of fine and/or suspension, could not publicly announce
such a belief.

We all know that organizations are sometimes slow to move in the
direction we may desire, and perhaps we sometimes feel they "don't hear
us", but we are bound by contractual restraints.  These restraints have,
in the case of the WPBA, allowed the public, sponsors and potential new
professionals to perceive the WPBA as a strong organization with few
problems working for the betterment of pocket billiards as a whole.

I don't believe it does the community or the sport any good to see the
public infighting and disputes displayed by some organizations.  On the
other hand TOTAL secrecy can lead to frustrations when we may feel we
have been ignored or as in a situation which happened to me (which I
shall not discuss), been financially, professionally and emotionally
hurt, by the organizations we respect and support.

I respect you Rose for living up to the code of ethics you signed and
fervently hope you will continue to be the shining star and positive
example you have been in the past.

Best wishes,

Anne Mayes