Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Michael Johns » Mon, 01 Nov 1999 03:00:00


    After reading Ken's bashing of his Arnot cue(his entitled opinion...
btw), I decided I'd go check out Ken's "billiard stuff" on his web page.
    First of all, I want to say you have 4 very beautiful cues. Do you
play with these, or do you display them? Your 2 playing cues were
recently acquired, so what did you use before?  If you collect them for
art, ok, but what would you need that many cues for playing purposes?  A
limited edition predator is your break cue? What a waste. And you're the
first person I know who has a second "break" cue.  Geez, some people
have more money than they know what to do with.
     secondly, while I think your cues are really nice, I think you
must've gotten your case from a New York City pimp. Just my "entitled"
opinion, I hope you agree.
     Finally, do you only play at home, or do you venture into public
with this mighty arsenal?
You better be a damn good player, or I'm afraid you're probably the
laughing stock of your local establishment. Have a good day.
                       ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK
 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Jimbo » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00

WOW another attack on the guy because he didn't like a cue. Mike if you are an
actual person why do you have such anger towards Ken? Is it because he didn't
like his Arnot cue? Why would you make a personal attack on the man because he
has 2 break cues.

JIM <------Thinks we may have an imaginary WEBTV user, any guesses?

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Michael Johns » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Group: rec.sport.billiard Date: Mon, Nov 1, 1999, 10:35am (CDT+5) From:

WOW another attack on the guy because he didn't like a cue. Mike if you
are an actual person why do you have such anger towards Ken? Is it
because he didn't like his Arnot cue? Why would you make a personal
attack on the man because he has 2 break cues.
JIM <------Thinks we may have an imaginary WEBTV user, any guesses?  

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jimbo... you are a real dumbass. if i am imaginary, how did you see this
post?

   after thinking about my post towards mr. bour, i admit i may have
been out of line. he can own 20 cues for all i care.
    im just tired of hearing about his obsession on squirt. as long as
he keeps playing with different cues, he'll continue to have problems
with squirt no matter which cue he uses.  
    when i switched from my meucci to my adams balabushka and then on to
my arnot, i was playing the worst pool of my life. it took me about 3-4
weeks to adjust to my arnot. now, i refuse to play with any other cue. i
cant tell you whether my arnot cue is squirty or not. i just know im
used to it now and it makes no difference one way or the other.
    after saying all that, i do want to complement ken on his cues, they
are very nice. however, i wont take back what i said about his case.
just downright fugly...                                 mike j

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Ron Huds » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

>After reading Ken's bashing of his Arnot cue(his entitled opinion...
>btw), I decided I'd go check out Ken's "billiard stuff" on his web page.

            <snipped a big tirade about Ken's stuff>

I have to go with Ken on this one.  I don't imagine you can have too many cues,
too much money, or too gaudy a case.

Ron

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Fred Agni » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Yet another unfair bash on Ken Bour.

I've now read a few criticisms on Ken Bour that has left me perplexed.
First of all, the criticism more than hint at bashing Ken personally.
Second of all, these criticism show an obvious lack of understanding of the
entire "Ken Bour approach" to his search and understanding of pool and its
ever-evasive key parameters.  Ken has been doing for the past few years what
many on this group only dream of doing:  empirically testing the different
pieces of available equipment on the market.  I for one am glad that someone
like Ken has the time and resources to do these tests and share his findings
with the group.

Fred Agnir <--- Ken Bour fan club member

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Jimbo » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Mike said:  when i switched from my meucci to my adams balabushka and then on
to
my arnot,

I think that saz it all.

JIM <---Wishes Mike a nice life

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by WCamp921 » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Yet another unfair bash on Ken Bour

Hear, hear!  I met and shot with Ken and Mike Page back about 6 months ago.
Both nice guys, very interested in improving by thinking about the game, and
actually testing euipment and theories about the game, rather than accepting
what an "authority" (other than Ron and Bob, of course :) might say.

Quote:
>Second of all, these criticism show an obvious lack of understanding of the
>entire "Ken Bour approach" to his search and understanding of pool and its
>ever-evasive key parameters.

Ken described the problems he had with the cue he ordered from Arnot.  I
listened with great interest, as I had already ordered Arnot's cutom starter
cue, but had not yet received it.  Now that I have, I can say that I am quite
pleased with its look ( just a plain purpleheart butt, very nice coloration, no
"white specks"), its squirt characteristics (not as good as a Predator, but
certainly not near as bad as 1-piece house cues), and its "hit", as subjective
as that is.  I think I got a terrific deal on a very nice cue, and had nothing
but pleasant delaings with Arnot.  Next time I get out to Ken's pool hall, I'll
bring it with me, and see  what he thinks of the cue.
Bill Campbell
 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by stika.. » Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I am in support of Fred's viewpoint on this one. Jimbo does well also.
If one listens close enough, he can learn from the most unlikely
sources. While this board seems to provide licence to some to bash
indisciminately, I have more respect for those who do it in a more
restrained manner.  Having a difference in opinion is natural...busting
someone's balls in a mean spirited manner because they are different
sounds to me like something coming from an insecure jerk. It takes all
kinds to make the world go around.  Even guys who are happy with their
Arnot cues.

stik



Quote:


> Yet another unfair bash on Ken Bour.

> I've now read a few criticisms on Ken Bour that has left me perplexed.
> First of all, the criticism more than hint at bashing Ken personally.
> Second of all, these criticism show an obvious lack of understanding
of the
> entire "Ken Bour approach" to his search and understanding of pool
and its
> ever-evasive key parameters.  Ken has been doing for the past few
years what
> many on this group only dream of doing:  empirically testing the
different
> pieces of available equipment on the market.  I for one am glad that
someone
> like Ken has the time and resources to do these tests and share his
findings
> with the group.

> Fred Agnir <--- Ken Bour fan club member

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Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by sam » Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Ken, Your not suggesting that you cue case gets more attention than my
certified Winnabago are you?  Ha Ha  Sincerely, Sam

<snipped Ken's stylish ensemble>

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Ken Bou » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>     After reading Ken's bashing of his Arnot cue(his entitled opinion...
> btw), I decided I'd go check out Ken's "billiard stuff" on his web page.
>     First of all, I want to say you have 4 very beautiful cues. Do you
> play with these, or do you display them? Your 2 playing cues were
> recently acquired, so what did you use before?  If you collect them for
> art, ok, but what would you need that many cues for playing purposes?  A
> limited edition predator is your break cue? What a waste. And you're the
> first person I know who has a second "break" cue.  Geez, some people
> have more money than they know what to do with.
>      secondly, while I think your cues are really nice, I think you
> must've gotten your case from a New York City pimp. Just my "entitled"
> opinion, I hope you agree.
>      Finally, do you only play at home, or do you venture into public
> with this mighty arsenal?
> You better be a damn good player, or I'm afraid you're probably the
> laughing stock of your local establishment. Have a good day.
>                        ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK

For what it's worth, I do appreciate nice things and, fortunately (knock on
wood), I can afford them in my later years.  As I'm sure you realize, I do
not hold any records for cue ownership!  There are many players in RSB and
elsewhere who own lots more cues than me.  I am certainly proud of my
cuesticks which is why I would display them on a website.  I do have too
many to play with and, I guess, that makes me an rank amateur collector.  I
shoot regularly with my Dishaw/Predator and I break now with the Downey
(with my new DZ Cue shaft).  I  am too fond of my cues to sell any off.
Each one has some sentimental value to me.

Incidentally, while you may not like the case, it was made by Dan Whitten.
He's arguably one of the finest case makers out there.  I happened to like
the appearance of this burgundy/black leather combination.   To each his
own.  That's why there's so much wondrous variety in the marketplace.

I do venture into public with my ensemble and, as it would happen, I am
rarely carrying the most expensive or most ornately decorated cue, case,
glove, or anything else for that matter.   You are right -- I do get mocked
for at least one reason!  I have the distinction of being the only player
who uses C***(it really looks like PINK) Master's chalk at the pool hall.
With the tan glove, pink chalk, and lavender pants suit, I create quite a
stir.

--
Ken Bour
Sterling, VA
http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Ken Bou » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00

That's always been my thinking on the subject.  I should hope that the cue
and case makers out there would salute!   (-:

--
Ken Bour
Sterling, VA
http://www.erols.com/kbour


Quote:

Johnson)

> >After reading Ken's bashing of his Arnot cue(his entitled opinion...
> >btw), I decided I'd go check out Ken's "billiard stuff" on his web page.

>             <snipped a big tirade about Ken's stuff>

> I have to go with Ken on this one.  I don't imagine you can have too many
cues,
> too much money, or too gaudy a case.

> Ron

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Patrick Johnso » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> With the tan glove, pink chalk, and lavender pants suit, I create quite a
> stir.

In Walkup's neighborhood you'd be shaken, not stirred.

Pat Johnson
Chicago

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by LEON3 » Fri, 05 Nov 1999 04:00:00

In this neighborhood (SF), people will be aghast that he's wearing a TAN glove
with pink and lavender.  EVERYONE knows that pink and lavender goes with
mauve....

LeonW>

Quote:

>> With the tan glove, pink chalk, and lavender pants suit, I create quite a
>> stir.

>In Walkup's neighborhood you'd be shaken, not stirred.

>Pat Johnson
>Chicago

 
 
 

Ken Bour, here's what I think...

Post by Ken Bou » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Despite the rough ride, occasionally, this is one more reminder why I LOVE
this NG!

--
Ken Bour
Sterling, VA
http://www.erols.com/kbour


Quote:

> > With the tan glove, pink chalk, and lavender pants suit, I create quite
a
> > stir.

> In Walkup's neighborhood you'd be shaken, not stirred.

> Pat Johnson
> Chicago