Separating friendship vs. competition

Separating friendship vs. competition

Post by billiardbab » Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:20:02


Thanks Ed for your great questions that pertain to pool...it's really
interesting to hear the feedback and learn from each other.

Here is one for the group: How in the world do you travel to a pool
tournament with a fellow player/friend and then have to play them in the
tournament. Since the tournaments are 1-3 hours away it is cheaper to drive
with someone--but, it is always inevitable that there will be a match up
between the two. I'm having trouble separating the friendship vs. the
competition. Any advice???

BB

 
 
 

Separating friendship vs. competition

Post by Dhakal » Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:15:56

Quote:

> Thanks Ed for your great questions that pertain to pool...it's really
> interesting to hear the feedback and learn from each other.

> Here is one for the group: How in the world do you travel to a pool
> tournament with a fellow player/friend and then have to play them in the
> tournament. Since the tournaments are 1-3 hours away it is cheaper to drive
> with someone--but, it is always inevitable that there will be a match up
> between the two. I'm having trouble separating the friendship vs. the
> competition. Any advice???

Stop thinking of it as competition. When you play your friend in a
tournament, you're helping her learn.

 
 
 

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Post by ninebal.. » Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:00:46

In a tournament it is every man/woman for themself. It is a GAME, not
life. Play them just as hard as you would if you were playing monopoly.
Play to win, they will.

If they get pissed because you beat them, tell them you got lucky and
the next time they may win.

Or, like a typical woman, miss on purpose because you look better doing
that. :-)

Hank <~~~misses on purpose to look good........NOT!

 
 
 

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Post by tdodg » Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:39:10


Quote:
> Thanks Ed for your great questions that pertain to pool...it's really
> interesting to hear the feedback and learn from each other.

> Here is one for the group: How in the world do you travel to a pool
> tournament with a fellow player/friend and then have to play them in the
> tournament.

Karen Coor and Julie Kelly seem to have no problem with it.
Don't take it personally...leave the table behind.
 
 
 

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Post by bvinc » Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:31:40


Quote:


> > Thanks Ed for your great questions that pertain to pool...it's really
> > interesting to hear the feedback and learn from each other.

> > Here is one for the group: How in the world do you travel to a pool
> > tournament with a fellow player/friend and then have to play them in the
> > tournament.

> Karen Coor and Julie Kelly seem to have no problem with it.
> Don't take it personally...leave the table behind.

Not being a Karen Corr or Julie Kelly, I have a problem with it, too.  It
may be that having female chromosomes, the need to nurture is stronger
than we can turn on and off.  I have a difficult time playing as
aggressively with friends and/or people I like.  I also find myself
letting up on some men because it's just plain easier to watch them beat
their chest in victory than do their little stomped on ego dance/fit (I'm
getting over it).

To answer the question... the only way I've been able to get through it is
to just not look at my friend during the match, and focus entirely on
shooting each ball and the job at hand.  One of us is going to win, and
either way, I trust we'll still be friends when it's over.

Becky

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Post by snapshot9sc.. » Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:14:33

It's called having mutual respect for each other unless you're games
are quite a ways apart.  And when you play them, both of you understand
it is business, nothing personal.
 
 
 

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Post by David The Hamster Malon » Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:47:19

Quote:

> I also find myself
> letting up on some men because it's just plain easier to watch them beat
> their chest in victory than do their little stomped on ego dance/fit (I'm
> getting over it).

Yeah, sure.... :-)

David "The macho Hamster" Malone

 
 
 

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Post by JohnA - Kent,WA » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:13:47

"billiardbabe" wrote

Quote:
> Here is one for the group: How in the world do you travel to a pool
> tournament with a fellow player/friend and then have to play them in the
> tournament. Since the tournaments are 1-3 hours away it is cheaper to drive
> with someone--but, it is always inevitable that there will be a match up
> between the two. I'm having trouble separating the friendship vs. the
> competition. Any advice???

If you're driving there isn't a problem. If they're driving, make sure you
bring cab fare.

--
JohnA(Kent,WA)

 
 
 

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Post by billiardbab » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:31:00

Ouch Hank you got me!  It isn't to look good-It's just sometimes it isn't
important to beat someone 7-0 when 7-2 works just as good...
BB

Quote:
> In a tournament it is every man/woman for themself. It is a GAME, not
> life. Play them just as hard as you would if you were playing monopoly.
> Play to win, they will.

> If they get pissed because you beat them, tell them you got lucky and
> the next time they may win.

> Or, like a typical woman, miss on purpose because you look better doing
> that. :-)

> Hank <~~~misses on purpose to look good........NOT!

 
 
 

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Post by billiardbab » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:05:25

Thanks Larry!  I needed that!
Only thing is putting a 5 pack on anyone in an amatuer tournament isn't
likly to happen--But your point is well taken.
I think I'll have to print everyone's great responses and put them in my
pocket for next tournament!
BB

Quote:
> Spoken like a true loser, have somebody 5-0 in a race to 7 and let up,
> let them have a couple of games is stupid, dumb, ask Steve Lillis, he
> was in that exact spot last week and Dennis Hatch put a 5 pack on him
> and got even, then won.
> It's war, no mercy, you crush, kill and bury any one you play.  When I
> play my granny, I want to bury the old broad 7-0.  I am genghis kahn in
> my mind when I play you.  You must die.
> That was what I was trying to tell you, you can't have pool friends and
> dominate them.  They will stab you in the back smiling in your face
> because they then hate your guts.

 
 
 

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Post by fastla.. » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:02:48

Sorry to jump your s*** that hard, but some time you have to *** slap
some to catch their attention.  You can still lose from a 5-0 position
and the opponent never runs a rack, I have seen it and done it my self
dozens of times coming from behind when I played in the leagues.

You cant be a winner, and everybody's pal and friend, it can't happen
because of jealousy.
Don't compete or ever gamble with your friends, or you wont have
friends.
When Hogan, Nicklaus were at the top, every one hated their guts, why,
they were too good, to far beyond the rest.
Pool is war, you attack, they die, show no mercy, none.  Off with their
heads.  Semper Fi, hooray, now BB, drop and give me 20 maggot.

 
 
 

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Post by bvinc » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:32:53

Quote:
> > Or, like a typical woman, miss on purpose because you look better doing
> > that. :-)

> > Hank <~~~misses on purpose to look good........NOT!

That's such a weird statement, I don't know even know what it means.

Becky ~~ thinks BB makes a very good point, tho  :-)

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Post by Alex Kanapill » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 02:34:04

Just discuss it on the way there... if we have to play each other, may
the best player win. Or... make a saver like everyone else in the pool
world does.

I end up playing friends all the time in tournaments, I mean I know
just about everyone around here locally and we're at least
aquaintences, but I don't mind beating them in a tournament. I probably
wouldn't gamble with my good buddies but that's different.

Alex

 
 
 

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Post by Ratche » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:16:53

I have drove to many tournaments with friends only to end up having to
play each other once we got there and it does make for interesting
conversation on the way back home at times , The guys
that I play with understand the "Sh!t Happens"  rule and get over it  by
saying "I'll Get you next time " and life goes on ....

With that said , Then there are the times when you are just BS'ing back
and forth and playing a nice freindly game or two that I am happy just to
shoot the balls around the table and really dont care if I win or lose
because I am happy just BS'ing with my friends  and let the chips fall
where they lay .

Those games relax me and thats when I begin to play my best pool and thats
also why I like to get to the venue early and practice with my friends , I
play 2 or 3 warmups and then I am good to go !

Ratchet - Hates driving home with black eyes .... It makes it extremely
hard to see the deer that jump out in front of my car !!

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Post by soracke » Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:27:57



Quote:
> If you're driving there isn't a problem. If they're driving, make sure
> you bring cab fare.

> --
> JohnA(Kent,WA)

... this should be in the FAQ..  

-B