Got the Talisman tips

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Bob Johnso » Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:00:00


I recieved the hard and medium Talisman tips today.  I put the *** a
break shaft and the medium on one of my shooting shafts.  So far, I'm
impressed.  Both tips trimmed fairly easily.  Since they came domed, I
didn't do a lot of shaping on the J/B shaft, but left it relatively flat,
less than a nickel radius.  I shaped the shooting cue to a dime radius, and
it was about like shaping a Hercules.  I was especially impressed with how
beautifully they burnished.  With a little spit and a Porper tip burnisher,
I got a beautiful shined finish.

I've only had a couple of hours to shoot with them, but I like them so far.
The cue ball action is excellent, atleast as good as anything else I've
tried.  Not enough time on them yet to determine how well the dime radius
will hold up, but I shot some very hard shots, and see no evidence of
flattening so far.  Seems to take and hold chalk fairly well for harder
tips.

I shoot the same test shots with all the tips I try, and found a table
length draw shot to be pretty effortless, with a very straight draw.  I put
an object ball at the first diamond from a corner pocket, the cue ball at
the second diamond, and a second object ball in the jaws of the corner at
the other end.  I was able to draw and drop the second object ball on 5
consecutive tries.  Shooting with english seems to get some pretty fast
action onto the cue ball.  I was over shooting some of my test shots until I
adjusted my stroke a little.  All in all, I think I like these tips.  One of
these days, I may have to try a Mori to see what all the fuss is about.

--
Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
Home of the back to back World Champion Broncos!

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Mountain Mike^ » Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Thanks for the report, Bob. Nobody will admit it, but I still think a softer
tip is easier to draw table length with. BTW, I got my MH Moori in the mail
today from Anthony at New Age Sports? Anyway for $8, I'm also gonna see what
all the hype is about. I really like the way they look and smell. There is
some *spots* that go through the leather, through all the layers. Must be
their secret stuff or something. Anyway, I'm gonna get another cue to put
them on. I really like my Scruggs now with the Buffalo tip. I thought it too
hard, but after breaking in, it's just right. Will report on the Moori when
I use it. MM^^

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Stikap » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Mountain Mike,
I didnt do the Moori thing because I didnt trust the source.  Now that you have
had success, can you remember where you got them ?

stik

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Steve Henderso » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
> I recieved the hard and medium Talisman tips today.  I put the *** a

Mine came in the mail today, too.  I pulled them out of the mailbox on the
way to work, so they are still sitting in the car.  Nothing I could do about
them at work.

I'll probably get them put on this weekend and give 'em a test run to see if
they'll work for me, too.

I was going the opposite direction on my last couple of tips.  I was going
softer, but from what I've been reading in here, it appears that I was going
the wrong way.

Time will tell.

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Paul J. Mo » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> I recieved the hard and medium Talisman tips today.  I put the *** a
> break shaft and the medium on one of my shooting shafts.  So far, I'm
> impressed.  Both tips trimmed fairly easily.  Since they came domed, I
> didn't do a lot of shaping on the J/B shaft, but left it relatively flat,
> less than a nickel radius.  I shaped the shooting cue to a dime radius, and
> it was about like shaping a Hercules.  I was especially impressed with how
> beautifully they burnished.  With a little spit and a Porper tip burnisher,
> I got a beautiful shined finish.

> I've only had a couple of hours to shoot with them, but I like them so far.
> The cue ball action is excellent, atleast as good as anything else I've
> tried.  Not enough time on them yet to determine how well the dime radius
> will hold up, but I shot some very hard shots, and see no evidence of
> flattening so far.  Seems to take and hold chalk fairly well for harder
> tips.

> I shoot the same test shots with all the tips I try, and found a table
> length draw shot to be pretty effortless, with a very straight draw.  I put
> an object ball at the first diamond from a corner pocket, the cue ball at
> the second diamond, and a second object ball in the jaws of the corner at
> the other end.  I was able to draw and drop the second object ball on 5
> consecutive tries.  Shooting with english seems to get some pretty fast
> action onto the cue ball.  I was over shooting some of my test shots until I
> adjusted my stroke a little.  All in all, I think I like these tips.  One of
> these days, I may have to try a Mori to see what all the fuss is about.

> --
> Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
> Home of the back to back World Champion Broncos!


Bob,
        Thanks for the report, hopefully mine will arrive soon and we can
compare notes.  How did it install?  Was the bottom side flat?  Do you
scuff or pick?  I prefer to pick occasionally vs scuff.  
        I've never used a laminated tip before.  Is there any unique
characteristics that I need to be aware of?  Thanks in advance....Paul
 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by wamille » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I got  the tips the other day as well.  The quality of the tips is
obvious at a glance.  They shape and hold chalk well, and I expect that
they will also wear well.  Talisman moves ahead of Hercules on my
preferred tip list.
regards
bill miller
 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Bob Johnso » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Paul, they installed very easily.  They were flat on the bottom, and showed
no visible lean in the shoulders.  By that I mean, they looked even.  I
always scuff the bottom on sand paper, to take off all the slickness and any
coating or seal.  I use Duro Gel, so I have to work fast as I only have a
few seconds to center and press into place.

Initially, I shape to a dime radius, (shooting shaft), and burnish the
sides.  After a few hours of play, I reshape lightly, and re-burnish.  When
I feel the tip is reasonably broken in, (just a feel to me), I stop scuffing
unless the tip were to need any re-shaping.  After break in, I use a tip
pick as needed.  These tips seem to hold chalk very well.

After shooting a couple more hours with these last night, I was satisfied
enough to order 6 of them.  At a little over $7 each, incl. S&H, I think I'm
gonna like these tips!

--
Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
Home of the back to back World Champion Broncos!



Quote:
> Bob,
> Thanks for the report, hopefully mine will arrive soon and we can
> compare notes.  How did it install?  Was the bottom side flat?  Do you
> scuff or pick?  I prefer to pick occasionally vs scuff.
> I've never used a laminated tip before.  Is there any unique
> characteristics that I need to be aware of?  Thanks in advance....Paul

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Bj?rn Anders » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>I recieved the hard and medium Talisman tips today.  

I recieved mine last thursday. I put the ***e on my cue, but I
haven't had a chance to play yet due to loads of work :-/. I liked the
look of them, though. The layers seem nice and even, it was easy to
shape, and they looked as if they had been manufactured very
professionally.

The thing I liked the most had nothing to do with the tips, however:
The envelope had been opened by the danish customs service, probably
to see if the two lumps inside were meant for smoking ;)

Regards,
Bj?rn Andersen

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Bryan Mor » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
> Talisman moves ahead of Hercules on my
>preferred tip list.
>regards
>bill miller

Can you tell us why Bill?

Bryan Mordt

Bryan's Pro Shop
Phoenix, Az.
(602) 371-3992

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Warren Lushi » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> Thanks for the report, Bob. Nobody will admit it, but I still think a softer
> tip is easier to draw table length with. BTW, I got my MH Moori in the mail
> today from Anthony at New Age Sports? Anyway for $8, I'm also gonna see what
> all the hype is about. I really like the way they look and smell.

i just spit on my screen!  you really like the way they smell!?!?!?!?  maybe
you can make some earrings out of them for you wife!?

warren.. <-- will no longer use any tip that doesn't smell good

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Bob Johnso » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I know you asked Bill why, but I thought I would jump back in here as I've
been trying Hercules, Instroke/YTT, and now Talisman.  In all honesty,
between the 3, from a playability standpoint, it might come down to price.
At this time, the Talisman's are a little cheaper than the Hercules, and I
don't know for sure what the price on the tips John gave me are.  I like all
3 so far, and if nothing else, I feel like I might not have to spring for
Mori's.  The Talisman's shaped much like the Hercules, and while the YTT's,
(I think that's what they are called), were harder to shape, the medium tip
doesn't play harder than the other two.  The fact that it was more difficult
to shape might mean it will hold up better.  So far, all 3 are holding up
quite well, not mushrooming, and don't require any more than an occasional
tap to hold chalk.  In fact, the Talismans, while not much time on them,
hold chalk much like a Triangle.

--
Bob Johnson, Denver, Co.
Home of the back to back World Champion Broncos!


Quote:
> > Talisman moves ahead of Hercules on my
> >preferred tip list.
> >regards
> >bill miller

> Can you tell us why Bill?

> Bryan Mordt

> Bryan's Pro Shop
> Phoenix, Az.
> (602) 371-3992

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by wamille » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> > Talisman moves ahead of Hercules on my
> >preferred tip list.
> >regards
> >bill miller

> Can you tell us why Bill?

> Bryan Mordt

> Bryan's Pro Shop
> Phoenix, Az.
> (602) 371-3992

Because, IMHO, the tips are at least of equal quality - and unless I
misread the information on Talisman's site, the tips sell for half the
going price of the Herc.
Sort of makes it a "no brainer".

regards
bill miller

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by wamille » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> > > Talisman moves ahead of Hercules on my
> > >preferred tip list.
> > >regards
> > >bill miller

> > Can you tell us why Bill?

> > Bryan Mordt

> > Bryan's Pro Shop
> > Phoenix, Az.
> > (602) 371-3992

> Because, IMHO, the tips are at least of equal quality - and unless I
> misread the information on Talisman's site, the tips sell for half the
> going price of the Herc.
> Sort of makes it a "no brainer".

> regards
> bill miller

Well, I did misread the information.  The Talismans are a buck or two
cheaper than the Herc, depending on quantity purchased.  The Talisman's
are listed 3 for $19 ($6.35 ea.), or 9 for $49 ($5.45 ea.).  I have paid
at least $7 for a Herc tip when buying a half dozen.
Marketers say it takes a minimum of a 20% price break to induce a
satisfied customer to switch brands.  It appears to me that Talisman's
marketing has taken this into account.  For some, the 20% might not be
worth the effort, but I appreciate the fact that a new company is entering
the market.  I think billiards needs some new *** on the supply side,
and that it will benefit the entire industry in the long run.

fickle consumer
bill miller

 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by RHA3 » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

well..since im an avid lover of hercules..where can i get one of these tips
to try out..?
 
 
 

Got the Talisman tips

Post by Tom Suare » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I got mine Monday also. I have not had a chance to put either on my cue. It was
interesting the "M" and "H" printed in gold paint, on the bottom of the tips to
indicate Medium and Hard. I could not tell the difference at all.
NICE Stamp From Thailand.
For those interested, visit www.talismanbilliards.com
Quote:

> I recieved the hard and medium Talisman tips today.