What kind of pool would you like to see on TV in the future?

What kind of pool would you like to see on TV in the future?

Post by Fast Larry Guning » Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:56:48


what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
game, 8 ball.  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
are edited properly.
Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
instead of this ESPN horse game.
 
 
 

What kind of pool would you like to see on TV in the future?

Post by Ninebal3 » Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:17:12

8 ball
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Post by Stev » Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:34:43


Quote:
> what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
> more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
> game, 8 ball.  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
> are edited properly.
> Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
> Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
> instead of this ESPN horse game.

More men's 9-ball.
Eight ball would be great, but I've the Accu-stats tapes from their
8-ball tournament which was billed as the first annual. Well there's
been no second annual, so I think the tapes didn't sell so well and
the TV probably won't either.
Banks, one-pocket, and straight pool are too slow to be a TV seller
unfortunately and if they were edited to make them seem faster they
wouldn't be worth watching.
I don't enjoy watching artistic pool, but I'll settle for anything
that will increase the popularity of pool so that we see more of the
stuff I do like on TV.
Steve.

 
 
 

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Post by ratche » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:45:23

Mens 8 & 9 ball !!!

Ratchet

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> what kind of pool do you want to see now

 
 
 

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Post by Privey » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:50:32

9Ball by anyone

Also, a 'Celebrity' match over a series of weeks including all movie stars,
recording artists, newsmen, etc. who can shake a stick.  Double elimination
tourney.

Roscoe

"Crisis occurs when women and cattle get e***d"...James Thurber



Quote:
> what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
> more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
> game, 8 ball.  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
> are edited properly.
> Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
> Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
> instead of this ESPN horse game.

 
 
 

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Post by JoePisk » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 01:26:51

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> what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
> more mens 9 ball.

Nothing against the women, but I would like to see some more of the men's
matches.

Quote:
> How about having the men pros play the peoples
> game, 8 ball.

I would like to see that. Especially after Bob Jewett's comments about how
the pro who broke lost more often than not in the pro eight ball
tournament he watched.

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>  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
> are edited properly.

Yeah, some editing would be necessary for one pocket, lol. I would not
even mind that. As opposed to when you watch nine ball and they skip three
racks or so. "Do to time constraints we will just skip ahead in the match.
Those racks did not matter much anyway but we will quickly show you
several amazing shots that took place during those racks...."

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> Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
> Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
> instead of this ESPN horse game.

Yes, the ESPN trick shot format sucks. The artistic pool championship
would probably be better, I have never been to it so I do not have to
strong  opinion on that one. But really you have hit on an interesting
point. There are all sorts of ways to cover pool, because it is not just
one game. I am glad ESPN at least shows some pool (although at this point
I have seen some of these matches so many times that I not only remember
who wins and looses certain racks but how they were won or lost.) But
really their coverage seems to be focused at the non pool playing public
(meaning recreational players.) It would seem to me that if they are
really getting ratings, there would be a lot more pool players in the
audience. They do not cater to us though. ESPN may know demographics and
marketing, but I will say this again, they do not seem to know much about
pool. I really wish this was not the case. How many recreational players
even know that there are games besides eight ball and nine ball? "Seven
ball, what the heck is that?" (If they wanted to showcase shot making they
should have gone with the original BCA version of the game.) Go ahead and
try to explain to them that there is a game called last ball or one ball
where you use the cue and only one other object ball. If you really want
to confuse them, have the pros play it on tv and have the non players
watch it. I don't know about anyone else here, but when I watch the pros,
I am trying to learn something. I think this is different for the most
part than when other sports are watched. If this were not the case I am
inclined to think that someone somewhere would sell individual football
games on video tape like Acustats does with pool matches. The people who
bought those football game tapes would then watch those games over and
over again in an attempt to learn more about the game, technique, etc...
Our sport has a different mind set when a majority of the 'regular fans'
watch it. Why not cater to us?
    Joe

--
http://www.kudraband.com

 
 
 

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Post by Patrick Johnso » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:41:11

Quote:

> ... some editing would be necessary for one pocket

The shots and moves that bore you are exciting and instructional for
1-pocket players.  If you think it needs to be edited, then it's
probably just not your cup of tea.  This is ESPN's big mistake -- they
don't understand the games, so they butcher them to make them more like
something they understand (like, say, X-Games).

Pat Johnson
Chicago

 
 
 

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Post by weedwack » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:59:56

Quote:

> 9Ball by anyone

> Also, a 'Celebrity' match over a series of weeks including all movie stars,
> recording artists, newsmen, etc. who can shake a stick.  Double elimination
> tourney.

> Roscoe

> "Crisis occurs when women and cattle get e***d"...James Thurber



> > what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
> > more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
> > game, 8 ball.  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
> > are edited properly.
> > Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
> > Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
> > instead of this ESPN horse game.

I'd like to see more men's pool (8-ball, 9-ball).  90% of the women I
know who play pool will admit (albeit begrudgingly) that men pros are
better players than their female counterparts.  Don't get me wrong, I
actually like watching the women play too, but would just like to see
the coverage time evened out a bit.

Also, better camera angles would be nice, though that's probably not
practical considering the cameramen have to work around real people
playing a real match.  In other words, the camerman is not going to
get right over Bustamante's shoulder so close he can smell him.  And,
this is true of all sports coverage.

 
 
 

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Post by Clinton Tindal » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 05:06:31

Snooker!
Would love to have all the WSA tournaments available on this side of the
pond.

But I will watch anything billiards.

Clinton

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> what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
> more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
> game, 8 ball.  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
> are edited properly.
> Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
> Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
> instead of this ESPN horse game.

 
 
 

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Post by Vader934 » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:47:58

Quote:

>what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
>more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
>game, 8 ball.

I'd like to see a Mosconi-cup type televised team event matching up the best
rated female players with the best rated male players.

This would be a good measurement to see just how well the women play against
the men in this modern day and time.

 
 
 

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Post by Ravelom » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:08:47

Quote:

>The shots and moves that bore you are exciting and instructional for
>1-pocket players.  If you think it needs to be edited, then it's
>probably just not your cup of tea.  This is ESPN's big mistake -- they
>don't understand the games, so they butcher them to make them more like
>something they understand (like, say, X-Games).

>Pat Johnson
>Chicago

Ah but therein lies the rub. Does it not? From a marketing / demographics point
of view, pool (let alone billiards) is a 'niche' product, at least as far as
the networks are concerned. So it does not make sense, from a business aspect,
to delve into ever more esoteric variations of pool.

I think that the future lies in increased efforts by web-based providers (a la
BCN) taking full advantage of new technological / software breakthroughs. This
would be a much more cost effective way to package and market to specific
niches, not just in pool, but in any endeavor that is of sufficient interest
globally.

Jerry R.

 
 
 

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Post by Fred Agn » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:20:33


Quote:
> what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
> more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
> game, 8 ball.  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
> are edited properly.
> Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
> Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
> instead of this ESPN horse game.

I'd like to see 8-ball I guess, but when the men play it, it looks so
damned easy. But, then again, most of the viewing public has more
connection with 8-ball. The viewing public will get confused when they
see rules that are different than what they are used to in the bars.

The 10-ball ring game was the most exciting pool I've ever seen on
broadcast. Of course, it took 5 1/2 hours, so maybe the viewing public
can't handle that.

Bar Table 8-ball would be a good bet, since the majority of public
that is counted in the surveys as "players" are probably more
accustomed to bar table play. Whether it's a Friday night or a league
night.

And finally, the short-rack banks, IMO, would be the most exciting
game to watch on the tube. Been saying it for years.

Fred

 
 
 

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Post by Ed » Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:36:57

One pocket or 9 ball banks. All this would have to be uncut or hopefully
uncut. Bar table 8 ball would be pretty good too. I think I've seen
enough high end nine ball for a lifetime. One pocket probably wouldn't make
it on TV but banks is pretty fast moving most of the time. They would edit out
the good safty play anyway when things slow down.
Ed
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> > what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
> > more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
> > game, 8 ball.  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
> > are edited properly.
> > Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
> > Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
> > instead of this ESPN horse game.

> I'd like to see 8-ball I guess, but when the men play it, it looks so
> damned easy. But, then again, most of the viewing public has more
> connection with 8-ball. The viewing public will get confused when they
> see rules that are different than what they are used to in the bars.

> The 10-ball ring game was the most exciting pool I've ever seen on
> broadcast. Of course, it took 5 1/2 hours, so maybe the viewing public
> can't handle that.

> Bar Table 8-ball would be a good bet, since the majority of public
> that is counted in the surveys as "players" are probably more
> accustomed to bar table play. Whether it's a Friday night or a league
> night.

> And finally, the short-rack banks, IMO, would be the most exciting
> game to watch on the tube. Been saying it for years.

> Fred

 
 
 

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Post by <alca.. » Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:40:28

I would like to see something that truely challenges the professional
player. Players that can run rack after rack of nine ball are not very
interesting.
I like combinations and banks and lag shots etc. There is a game called
"Honolulu" that is in my rule book ( Fairly old book.)
Effectively, the game does not allow any simple shots to be played, only
banks, combinations, whatever else you can think of. I find it  very
interesting and immensely challenging.

Al



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> > what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
> > more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
> > game, 8 ball.  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
> > are edited properly.
> > Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
> > Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
> > instead of this ESPN horse game.

> I'd like to see 8-ball I guess, but when the men play it, it looks so
> damned easy. But, then again, most of the viewing public has more
> connection with 8-ball. The viewing public will get confused when they
> see rules that are different than what they are used to in the bars.

> The 10-ball ring game was the most exciting pool I've ever seen on
> broadcast. Of course, it took 5 1/2 hours, so maybe the viewing public
> can't handle that.

> Bar Table 8-ball would be a good bet, since the majority of public
> that is counted in the surveys as "players" are probably more
> accustomed to bar table play. Whether it's a Friday night or a league
> night.

> And finally, the short-rack banks, IMO, would be the most exciting
> game to watch on the tube. Been saying it for years.

> Fred

 
 
 

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Post by Jim Wyan » Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:35:31

I would like to see a side by side Fargo match.  Player A breaks and does
BIH, then Player B does the same.  Player A takes his first shot, then
Player B, etc., through the inning.  Next rack they alternate the order.
Two tables, side by side, offense versus offense, react to your opponents,
shots, coin flips, etc..

I dunno, just a thought.

--Jim


Quote:

> I would like to see something that truely challenges the professional
> player. Players that can run rack after rack of nine ball are not very
> interesting.
> I like combinations and banks and lag shots etc. There is a game called
> "Honolulu" that is in my rule book ( Fairly old book.)
> Effectively, the game does not allow any simple shots to be played, only
> banks, combinations, whatever else you can think of. I find it  very
> interesting and immensely challenging.

> Al





>>> what kind of pool do you want to see now on tv.  More womens 9 ball or
>>> more mens 9 ball.  How about having the men pros play the peoples
>>> game, 8 ball.  Can banks, one pocket and straight pool be fun if they
>>> are edited properly.
>>> Can you have a high stakes 9 ball ring game by the top gamblers.
>>> Would you like to see the world artistic championship being played
>>> instead of this ESPN horse game.

>> I'd like to see 8-ball I guess, but when the men play it, it looks so
>> damned easy. But, then again, most of the viewing public has more
>> connection with 8-ball. The viewing public will get confused when they
>> see rules that are different than what they are used to in the bars.

>> The 10-ball ring game was the most exciting pool I've ever seen on
>> broadcast. Of course, it took 5 1/2 hours, so maybe the viewing public
>> can't handle that.

>> Bar Table 8-ball would be a good bet, since the majority of public
>> that is counted in the surveys as "players" are probably more
>> accustomed to bar table play. Whether it's a Friday night or a league
>> night.

>> And finally, the short-rack banks, IMO, would be the most exciting
>> game to watch on the tube. Been saying it for years.

>> Fred