Gold Crown III

Gold Crown III

Post by CUE t » Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:00:00


Ok..I've decided to sell my 8 foot oak table and get a Brunswick Gold
Crown III (in back with chrome trim).  I've made my decision partly
because of the looks, partly because I want a 9' table, and partly just
because I'm an elitist snob (quit rolling your eyes!).  My only complaint
is that it's a costly table (I've seen them listed anywhere from 5 to 8
thousand).  Anyone out there that has any better ideas?  My girlfriend
will thank you come Christmas time <g>  Just remember I don't want a
furniture table, they are too easy to damage. All I really need a great
playing pool table that can handle a lot of abuse.

if you can help..I thank you in advance

Paul

 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Jonas Znidars » Sat, 13 Apr 1996 04:00:00


Quote:
> Ok..I've decided to sell my 8 foot oak table and get a Brunswick Gold
> Crown III (in back with chrome trim).  I've made my decision partly
> because of the looks, partly because I want a 9' table, and partly just
> because I'm an elitist snob (quit rolling your eyes!).  My only complaint
> is that it's a costly table (I've seen them listed anywhere from 5 to 8
> thousand).  Anyone out there that has any better ideas?  My girlfriend
> will thank you come Christmas time <g>  Just remember I don't want a
> furniture table, they are too easy to damage. All I really need a great
> playing pool table that can handle a lot of abuse.

> if you can help..I thank you in advance

> Paul

Of course, you can do what you want, but I would NEVER buy a Gold Crown
again! These tables DO NOT take abuse! The corner pockets are not ffixed to
the rails well, they start to wobble soon. It's a production flaw. I have
four of the Gold Crowns in my Billiards Academy, am not satisfied with them.

Second, do not buy the black finish Gold Crown! It's like a grand piano, you
have to polish it all the time! If somebody barely walks by the table, the
fingerprints will be all over the rails! It's not a pretty sight!

I strongly recommend Diamond or Gandy tables, the Gandy Big G has (IMHO) by
far THE BEST price/quality ratio! These tables are easy to assemble, hard to
destroy, easy to service.

--
*** Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? ***

Jonas Znidarsic
http://www.jonas.eunet.si

 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by CUE t » Sun, 14 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>Of course, you can do what you want, but I would NEVER buy a Gold Crown
>again! These tables DO NOT take abuse! The corner pockets are not ffixed
to
>the rails well, they start to wobble soon. It's a production flaw. I have
>four of the Gold Crowns in my Billiards Academy, am not satisfied with
them.

>Second, do not buy the black finish Gold Crown! It's like a grand piano,
you
>have to polish it all the time! If somebody barely walks by the table,
the
>fingerprints will be all over the rails! It's not a pretty sight!

>I strongly recommend Diamond or Gandy tables, the Gandy Big G has (IMHO)
by
>far THE BEST price/quality ratio! These tables are easy to assemble, hard
to
>destroy, easy to service

Jonas,

Thanks for the information.  Too bad you don't have a strong opinion about
the Gold Crowns! (ha-ha!)  Anyway, what you described is exactly what I
DON'T want to happen to my beloved pool table, so I may take your advice.
I have only one question..where can I get some information on this Gandy
"big G"?

Thanks again,

Paul

 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Daddy » Mon, 15 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Carl;

You should remember that the kind of tables that room-owners
adore and the kind that individual owners learn to love
are, usually, not the same.   Understandably!  Room owners
usually consider one thing and one thing only; How much can
I make with it before having to spend any money on it???
A private table is bought for enjoyable play ("economic
efficiency" is usually not too important to the individual).

I've had a Gold Crn.III for seven years.   Plays true in
every way.  Wouldn't trade it for any two Gandy tables!!

And, if I ever need to sell it, there's always a market for
the old standby!    Get a Gold Crown III.  It'll cost you
a bit more but you will have something you can be proud of.

Regards,

--
/s/David(Daddy D)Nixon              
"One Pocket Heaven", Just Outside the Beltway    


 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Jim Montgome » Mon, 15 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Paul,

I got a new Gold Crown III a couple of years ago (fulfilling a lifelong
dream), and have been pretty diappointed in it. Have had lots of problems
with the seams popping; replacing the slate helped a little, but the table
is still not quite 100%. I've learned more than I'd like to know about
table maintenance.

The dealer (a good one) is baffled and thinks it's a problem with
humidity/temp fluctuation. (Although the table is in a ba***t, it's dry,
and temperature is kept pretty constant throughout the year. The Brunswick
technical people said it was "because the customer must be moving the
table."

Bottom line: I wouldn't buy another Brunswick. (But if you're in the
Boston area, I might sell you this one ;-)

--
_________________________
Jim Montgomery
Hopkinton, MA



 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Cuemake » Tue, 16 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


>> Ok..I've decided to sell my 8 foot oak table and get a Brunswick Gold
>> Crown III (in back with chrome trim).  I've made my decision partly
>> because of the looks, partly because I want a 9' table, and partly just
>> because I'm an elitist snob (quit rolling your eyes!).  My only complaint
>> is that it's a costly table (I've seen them listed anywhere from 5 to 8
>> thousand).  Anyone out there that has any better ideas?  My girlfriend
>> will thank you come Christmas time <g>  Just remember I don't want a
>> furniture table, they are too easy to damage. All I really need a great
>> playing pool table that can handle a lot of abuse.

>> if you can help..I thank you in advance

>> Paul

>Of course, you can do what you want, but I would NEVER buy a Gold Crown
>again! These tables DO NOT take abuse! The corner pockets are not ffixed to
>the rails well, they start to wobble soon. It's a production flaw. I have
>four of the Gold Crowns in my Billiards Academy, am not satisfied with them.

>Second, do not buy the black finish Gold Crown! It's like a grand piano, you
>have to polish it all the time! If somebody barely walks by the table, the
>fingerprints will be all over the rails! It's not a pretty sight!

>I strongly recommend Diamond or Gandy tables, the Gandy Big G has (IMHO) by
>far THE BEST price/quality ratio! These tables are easy to assemble, hard to
>destroy, easy to service.

>--
>*** Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? ***

>Jonas Znidarsic
>http://SportToday.org/

I'm going to have to agree with Jonas on this one. I have the same
opinion of the Gold Crowns with the pocket problem and the high gloss
finish, a real *** to keep up. IMHO the Big G is a much better table
for the money, and the black finish is more of a mat black, which doesn't
show all of the marks like the high gloss. Its a real shame that you dont
want a furniture table, because the Diamond table is one of the best
tables around, ie: all leather one piece pockets, flush with the table,
and very tight pockets,which make you play like you should! Another

two suggestions when buying a table: make sure that you get Simonis cloth
and atleast a 3/4" slate, but I prefer a 1" slate, which takes better
abuse when jumping ball and when you mase' the ball.
      Get any one of these tables and I think that the whole group would
be envious of you!
                                      TED
 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Mike Callagha » Tue, 16 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Paul,

> I got a new Gold Crown III a couple of years ago (fulfilling a lifelong
> dream), and have been pretty diappointed in it. Have had lots of problems
> with the seams popping; replacing the slate helped a little, but the table
> is still not quite 100%. I've learned more than I'd like to know about
> table maintenance.

> The dealer (a good one) is baffled and thinks it's a problem with
> humidity/temp fluctuation. (Although the table is in a ba***t, it's dry,
> and temperature is kept pretty constant throughout the year. The Brunswick
> technical people said it was "because the customer must be moving the
> table."

> Bottom line: I wouldn't buy another Brunswick. (But if you're in the
> Boston area, I might sell you this one ;-)

> --
> _________________________
> Jim Montgomery
> Hopkinton, MA




reason is: They were developed over time by using them in pro tournaments
and refining them using feedback from top players. The pockets are much
better(you dont have to jack up stick when shooting out of pocket).the
rails are wood and not formica. I am sorry you are having problems but it
seems that there shoul be an easy fix.
 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by cdow.. » Wed, 17 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>>Of course, you can do what you want, but I would NEVER buy a Gold Crown
>>again! These tables DO NOT take abuse! The corner pockets are not ffixed
>to
>>the rails well, they start to wobble soon. It's a production flaw. I have
>>four of the Gold Crowns in my Billiards Academy, am not satisfied with
>them.

>>Second, do not buy the black finish Gold Crown! It's like a grand piano,
>you
>>have to polish it all the time! If somebody barely walks by the table,
>the
>>fingerprints will be all over the rails! It's not a pretty sight!

>>I strongly recommend Diamond or Gandy tables, the Gandy Big G has (IMHO)
>by
>>far THE BEST price/quality ratio! These tables are easy to assemble, hard
>to
>>destroy, easy to service
>Jonas,
>Thanks for the information.  Too bad you don't have a strong opinion about
>the Gold Crowns! (ha-ha!)  Anyway, what you described is exactly what I
>DON'T want to happen to my beloved pool table, so I may take your advice.
>I have only one question..where can I get some information on this Gandy
>"big G"?

I have one used BIG-G (9') and one BIG-G (7' - first one made in the
world). You may view them on our site. For more info, you may also
email.

Shooter

Quote:
>Thanks again,
>Paul

visit us at:
http://www.dreamscape.com/cdowner
 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by CUE t » Wed, 17 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>I have one used BIG-G (9') and one BIG-G (7' - first one made in the
>world). You may view them on our site. For more info, you may also
>email.

>Shooter

Mr. Downer,

Thanks for the advice..I'll definately check out your site.

Regards,

Paul

 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Mark Avl » Wed, 17 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

>Of course, you can do what you want, but I would NEVER buy a Gold Crown
>again! These tables DO NOT take abuse! The corner pockets are not ffixed to
>the rails well, they start to wobble soon. It's a production flaw. I have
>four of the Gold Crowns in my Billiards Academy, am not satisfied with them.

This has happened to my gold Crown as well.  There is a design problem
with the pockets and Brunswick has redesigned the pockets to correct
it.  The pockets also have a lower profile!  Ask your local dealer to
order a set.
Quote:
>Jonas Znidarsic
>http://www.jonas.eunet.si

 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by CUE t » Thu, 18 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>I'm going to have to agree with Jonas on this one. I have the same
>opinion of the Gold Crowns with the pocket problem and the high gloss
>finish, a real *** to keep up. IMHO the Big G is a much better table
>for the money, and the black finish is more of a mat black, which doesn't
>show all of the marks like the high gloss. Its a real shame that you dont
>want a furniture table, because the Diamond table is one of the best
>tables around, ie: all leather one piece pockets, flush with the table,
>and very tight pockets,which make you play like you should! Another

>two suggestions when buying a table: make sure that you get Simonis cloth
>and atleast a 3/4" slate, but I prefer a 1" slate, which takes better
>abuse when jumping ball and when you mase' the ball.

Ted,
thanks for your help with the tables.  This is harder than I though it
would be.  I have about 10 different opinoions from various players about
the gold grown both good and bad.  I'm going to have to do a lot of
research.  Quite of few of the "newsies" suggested I buy a used Gold Crown
I or II, but I've been searching the classified and can't find one.  The
ads in the pool magazines are way too far away to be feasible.

Quote:
>      Get any one of these tables and I think that the whole group would
>be envious of you!
>                                      TED

Well, I wish some of you could explain why I want a really nice table to
my girlfriend who would much rather buy a bedroom suit.  My argument is
that I spend much more time at the table than in the bedroom, besides, I
get plenty of sleep at work. :-)

Thanks again,

Paul

 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Brad Coo » Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Thanks for the information.  Too bad you don't have a strong opinion about
> the Gold Crowns! (ha-ha!)  Anyway, what you described is exactly what I
> DON'T want to happen to my beloved pool table, so I may take your advice.
> I have only one question..where can I get some information on this Gandy
> "big G"?

Another thing to take into consideration is the rails.  Between Gandy and Brunswick, I'd choose Brunswick.  
Standard Gandy rails play very differently from Brunswick Gold Crown rails(super speed?).  I started out
playing on Gandys, and learned to kick and bank very well on them.  When I started going to other pool halls
and playing on Gold Crowns, I found that the Gold Crowns banked a little wide compared to Gandys.
 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Jim Montgome » Sat, 20 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Well, I wish some of you could explain why I want a really nice table to
> my girlfriend who would much rather buy a bedroom suit.  My argument is
> that I spend much more time at the table than in the bedroom, besides, I
> get plenty of sleep at work. :-)

Don't know about the other folks who have tables, but it took me about 26
years of build-up to finally get "official" approval. The ploy that
ultimately worked was to look at a beautiful restored old Brunswick, rave
about it, and then comment that $13,000 was just too much (..."well, maybe
not, hmmm...), especially when I could get a new GC for around $4K.

Got the GC the next day.

--
_________________________
Jim Montgomery
Hopkinton, MA



 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Michael O'Ha » Sat, 20 Apr 1996 04:00:00

Quote:


>>Of course, you can do what you want, but I would NEVER buy a Gold Crown
>>again! These tables DO NOT take abuse! The corner pockets are not ffixed to
>>the rails well, they start to wobble soon. It's a production flaw. I have
>>four of the Gold Crowns in my Billiards Academy, am not satisfied with them.

>This has happened to my gold Crown as well.  There is a design problem
>with the pockets and Brunswick has redesigned the pockets to correct
>it.  The pockets also have a lower profile!  Ask your local dealer to
>order a set.

What I found disconcerting is that the Gold Crown III's don't have doweled
slates.  This is based on looking at the brochure when they first came out.
I'm hoping that I'm wrong.  Are the G.C. III's fitted with doweled slates?
Does someone have the specs for the G.C. I & II?  The III appears to have
a smaller, lighter frame.
 
 
 

Gold Crown III

Post by Jim Montgome » Mon, 22 Apr 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

> What I found disconcerting is that the Gold Crown III's don't have doweled
> slates.  This is based on looking at the brochure when they first came out.
> I'm hoping that I'm wrong.  Are the G.C. III's fitted with doweled slates?
> Does someone have the specs for the G.C. I & II?  The III appears to have
> a smaller, lighter frame.

The new GC's don't have dowelled slates. When I started having problems, I
considered having the slate drilled for dowels, and the installer
recommended against it.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that the IIIs have a less
substantial frame. My slate popping problems more or less cleared up after
replacing slate and frame, and I suspect it was the frame that had been at
fault.

--
_________________________
Jim Montgomery
Hopkinton, MA