Cloth Questions

Cloth Questions

Post by Stephe » Wed, 09 Apr 2003 01:16:53


Does anyone know where Simonis cloth can be purchased in the Vancouver
Canada area?

Any suggestions on what else might be a good choice to recloth a 9 footer?

What would be a good price just for the cloth?

What would be a good price to have the table redone for me?

Any recommendations on table mechanics in the area?

Etc, etc, etc?

Thanks y'all,

Stephen

 
 
 

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Post by Bruce Boy » Wed, 09 Apr 2003 02:40:05

Stephen asked:

Quote:
>Does anyone know where Simonis cloth can be purchased
>in the Vancouver Canada area?

I purchased Simonis from the Dufferin Game Room Store on SW Marine Drive (in
Vancouver) about 8 years ago. They are in the phone book and have an 800
number if you are long distance.

Quote:
>Any suggestions on what else might be a
>good choice to recloth a 9 footer?

I've covered my own table with Hainsworth 90/10 worsted in the past and it
played very similarly to Simonis 860, but my recommendation is to use
Granito Basalt made by Gorina. Send SSCS (John Kirchel) an email (he
announced lately that he is distributing Granito cloth and is a regular
poster to this group) or give Jon Spiegel a call at 800 465 4900. I've
purchased from both Jon, and Deno before him at that number.

Quote:
>What would be a good price just for the cloth?

Eight years ago, I paid $275CA for the Simonis. I think about $200CA before
shipping or taxes or brokerage for the Granito. My experience is that you
can get dinged heavily (brokerage) by using a private courier.
--
Protection Island Bruce (gotta run, but will answer your other questions
later today)

 
 
 

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Post by Bruce Boy » Wed, 09 Apr 2003 06:31:54

As I was saying:

Quote:
>What would be a good price to have the table redone for me?

I'm having trouble with your choice of words. I think I understand what you
mean, but it would be really good if the price you and your family pay
doesn't include being***d and ***ed by a recently released career
killer who does jam up table work for cheap. <g>

When a table sale isn't involved, you might expect anything from $20 to $40
an hour and maybe another $10 per hour if there's a helper.

Quote:
>Any recommendations on table mechanics in the area?

Talk to The Game Room and Home Billiards (I think) at the other end of that
strip of businesses for a recommendation or talk to pool room owners about
who does their tables. Frenchy (Alain Boutain) used to do tables around the
lower mainland, but I'm not sure where he is now.
--
Protection Island Bruce

 
 
 

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Post by Stephe » Thu, 10 Apr 2003 00:27:04

Thanks for all the info Bruce.

BTW, why do you recommend the Granito Basalt cloth?  How does it compare
in price and performance with the Simonis cloth?

Stephen

Quote:

> As I was saying:

>>What would be a good price to have the table redone for me?

> I'm having trouble with your choice of words. I think I understand what you
> mean, but it would be really good if the price you and your family pay
> doesn't include being***d and ***ed by a recently released career
> killer who does jam up table work for cheap. <g>

> When a table sale isn't involved, you might expect anything from $20 to $40
> an hour and maybe another $10 per hour if there's a helper.

>>Any recommendations on table mechanics in the area?

> Talk to The Game Room and Home Billiards (I think) at the other end of that
> strip of businesses for a recommendation or talk to pool room owners about
> who does their tables. Frenchy (Alain Boutain) used to do tables around the
> lower mainland, but I'm not sure where he is now.
> --
> Protection Island Bruce

 
 
 

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Post by Bruce Boy » Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:14:21

Stephen asked:

Quote:
>why do you recommend the Granito Basalt cloth?
>How does it compare in price and performance
>with the Simonis cloth?

Playability is number one. It is by far the fastest worsted pool cloth I've
played on and the high wool content allows working the cue ball.

Number two is a bonus insofar as I would use Basalt even if it was more
money than Simonis, but it is less costly than Simonis.

The only negative (in my experience) is that it wears out sooner (this fact
maybe negates my number two reason).
--
Protection Island Bruce

 
 
 

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Post by Stephe » Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:25:57

Since the table is in my home and will not be played as much as a table
in a pool room perhaps durability is not as important an issue as
playability.

I'll have a look at the difference in price.  I have a feeling it won't
end up being the deciding factor.  Thanks again.

Stephen

Stephen

Quote:

> Stephen asked:

>>why do you recommend the Granito Basalt cloth?
>>How does it compare in price and performance
>>with the Simonis cloth?

> Playability is number one. It is by far the fastest worsted pool cloth I've
> played on and the high wool content allows working the cue ball.

> Number two is a bonus insofar as I would use Basalt even if it was more
> money than Simonis, but it is less costly than Simonis.

> The only negative (in my experience) is that it wears out sooner (this fact
> maybe negates my number two reason).
> --
> Protection Island Bruce

 
 
 

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Post by LS » Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:29:24

I would recommend Granito Basalt.  I did a oversized 8' table for $142.

I'm new to the cloth debate. I'm going on all the recommendations I've seen
here and from the play of my table with Granito. It is very, very nice
cloth.

Lannie


Quote:
> Does anyone know where Simonis cloth can be purchased in the Vancouver
> Canada area?

> Any suggestions on what else might be a good choice to recloth a 9 footer?

> What would be a good price just for the cloth?

> What would be a good price to have the table redone for me?

> Any recommendations on table mechanics in the area?

> Etc, etc, etc?

> Thanks y'all,

> Stephen

 
 
 

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Post by Frank » Fri, 11 Apr 2003 01:38:46



:|: I did a oversized 8' table for $142
:|:
That's the cost of the cloth, no labor is included for that price is
it?
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Post by Stephe » Fri, 11 Apr 2003 01:52:09

That must be $142 Ameribucks.  That would be about... $210 Canapesos I
think.  Did you order it from somewhere or buy it in your area?
Quote:

> I would recommend Granito Basalt.  I did a oversized 8' table for $142.

> I'm new to the cloth debate. I'm going on all the recommendations I've seen
> here and from the play of my table with Granito. It is very, very nice
> cloth.

> Lannie



>>Does anyone know where Simonis cloth can be purchased in the Vancouver
>>Canada area?

>>Any suggestions on what else might be a good choice to recloth a 9 footer?

>>What would be a good price just for the cloth?

>>What would be a good price to have the table redone for me?

>>Any recommendations on table mechanics in the area?

>>Etc, etc, etc?

>>Thanks y'all,

>>Stephen

 
 
 

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Post by SSCS » Fri, 11 Apr 2003 03:12:18

Granito is by far the finest cloth. IMHO is even better than Simonis. Inch
per inch I have found it has less flaws than the simonis and feels heaver.

SSCS


Quote:
> I would recommend Granito Basalt.  I did a oversized 8' table for $142.

> I'm new to the cloth debate. I'm going on all the recommendations I've
seen
> here and from the play of my table with Granito. It is very, very nice
> cloth.

> Lannie



> > Does anyone know where Simonis cloth can be purchased in the Vancouver
> > Canada area?

> > Any suggestions on what else might be a good choice to recloth a 9
footer?

> > What would be a good price just for the cloth?

> > What would be a good price to have the table redone for me?

> > Any recommendations on table mechanics in the area?

> > Etc, etc, etc?

> > Thanks y'all,

> > Stephen

 
 
 

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Post by LS » Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:48:37

I did the work myself.  My local shop would charge $35 to do the rails.  I
bought Mark0's book and it was easy to do, just took time and accuracy.

Lannie


Quote:


> :|: I did a oversized 8' table for $142
> :|:
> That's the cost of the cloth, no labor is included for that price is
> it?
> --


 
 
 

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Post by LS » Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:49:21

Local Mueller's sporting goods here in Des Moines, Iowa.
Took them 3 days to get it in.


Quote:
> That must be $142 Ameribucks.  That would be about... $210 Canapesos I
> think.  Did you order it from somewhere or buy it in your area?


> > I would recommend Granito Basalt.  I did a oversized 8' table for $142.

> > I'm new to the cloth debate. I'm going on all the recommendations I've
seen
> > here and from the play of my table with Granito. It is very, very nice
> > cloth.

> > Lannie



> >>Does anyone know where Simonis cloth can be purchased in the Vancouver
> >>Canada area?

> >>Any suggestions on what else might be a good choice to recloth a 9
footer?

> >>What would be a good price just for the cloth?

> >>What would be a good price to have the table redone for me?

> >>Any recommendations on table mechanics in the area?

> >>Etc, etc, etc?

> >>Thanks y'all,

> >>Stephen

 
 
 

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Post by Stephe » Fri, 11 Apr 2003 07:32:55

What book you are referring to?

I did the cloth on my table when I reassembled it and I was happy with
the way the cloth turned out but I would welcome a source of info to
help me do the job easier and more properly.

Quote:

> I did the work myself.  My local shop would charge $35 to do the rails.  I
> bought Mark0's book and it was easy to do, just took time and accuracy.

> Lannie





>>:|: I did a oversized 8' table for $142
>>:|:
>>That's the cost of the cloth, no labor is included for that price is
>>it?
>>--


 
 
 

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Post by Mailman Mik » Fri, 11 Apr 2003 18:32:20

Mark0's book can be found and ordered at:

http://mccauley.hypermart.net/secrets.htm

Mike Collier
Oak Harbor, WA


Quote:
> What book you are referring to?

> I did the cloth on my table when I reassembled it and I was happy with
> the way the cloth turned out but I would welcome a source of info to
> help me do the job easier and more properly.


> > I did the work myself.  My local shop would charge $35 to do the rails.
I
> > bought Mark0's book and it was easy to do, just took time and accuracy.

> > Lannie





> >>:|: I did a oversized 8' table for $142
> >>:|:
> >>That's the cost of the cloth, no labor is included for that price is
> >>it?
> >>--


 
 
 

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Post by Mark » Sun, 13 Apr 2003 05:18:48

It's a 26 page booklet I wrote describing how to recover pool tables the
"right" way.  I share the 'tricks of the trade' and salt it with about a
dozen illustrations to help clarify the descriptions.  It costs $14.50 plus
$3.85 postage (I send them Priority Mail).  Usenet users get a $2.00
discount --your cost would be $16.35.

Sorry it took so long to reply.  It's been one of *those* weeks.

Regards,
Mark0


Quote:
> What book you are referring to?

> I did the cloth on my table when I reassembled it and I was happy with
> the way the cloth turned out but I would welcome a source of info to
> help me do the job easier and more properly.


> > I did the work myself.  My local shop would charge $35 to do the rails.
I
> > bought Mark0's book and it was easy to do, just took time and accuracy.

> > Lannie





> >>:|: I did a oversized 8' table for $142
> >>:|:
> >>That's the cost of the cloth, no labor is included for that price is
> >>it?
> >>--