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Let's Play

Post by Jim Meado » Tue, 03 Sep 1996 04:00:00


Okay guys, here's the deal.

I really enjoy the conversations, but I'd rather shoot. So let's have a
tournament via rec.sport.billiards. The following is my opening
suggestion. Let's hammer out a *** game and rules, and get it on.
Obviously it will be on the the honor system, but I've gotten to know
you guys a little, and I see no problem there.

If you want to participate, Add your email me.

Tournament Rules:

Game: Rotation (with alterations for rec.sport.)

Posted Game: Each participant will (not can, but will) play two practice
racks (15 balls maximum). The third rack start be the tournament game,
and the one to email for your score. This is on the honor system. You
can not use the score of any other game. Practice all you want, but when
you are ready for you tournament game, say to yourself (or a friend)
that "this is it", and start playing your two "official" practice racks.
When you mount your third rack, know this will be the official game to
report upon completion.

Each participant will have the results of three games posted. ( A game
is an unbroken run, balls played sequentially, ending with second miss.)
Results will be posted continually as the tournament progresses.

There has to be a time limit for players to complete and report their
three games. I would like to keep in short and hold more tournaments. If
a player does not report three games within the time limit, he or she
gets credit for reported games only. I am open to suggestions.

Rack: 15 balls. 15 ball in center, one ball on foot spot.

Break: From behind head string.

After Break: spot all balls made on the break, and start run with ball
in hand anywhere on the table.

Game: Run all 15 balls sequentially = 120 points is possible per rack.
When 14 of 15 have been run, 15th ball is used to break the rack (as in
14.1 straight pool) and continue sequentially. If 14 balls are made
(before a second miss), rack the 14 dropped balls, with highest numbered
ball in the center (obviously excluding break ball), and continue your
run. Score for each rack is 120 since the 15th ball (break ball) is
considered part of run. If the 15th ball (break ball) does not go, or
cause another ball to drop, it is considered a miss. If it is the second
miss, score only the 14 dropped balls.

Two misses, at any time during the run, ends the game. A scratch is
considered a miss. If the scratch constitutes the first miss, spot any
balls made during the scratch stroke and continue with ball in hand from
behind head string. If scratch constitutes the second miss, any balls
made during scratch stroke is not counted toward score, and game is
over. Player does not get two misses per rack. The second miss, at any
time, ends the game, and score is emailed to director.

Basic Rules: Call only the pocket. Anyway it goes is okay. Next ball in
the rotation may be used to play a combination on any other ball on the
table (as in nine ball). All balls made with one stroke are counted, as
long as the next ball in the sequence hit first.

If the cue ball leaves the table, it is considered a miss. If it is the
first miss, spot any balls sunk, and take cueball in hand behind the
head string.

In all other situations, the BCA General Rules apply.

Ok Guys. Let's go over the game and rules. Post your suggestions for
improvement. I selected rotation because it is very difficult to run 15
balls sequentially. When a majority have approved, we post the final
rules and the games begin.

 Jim Meador

http://SportToday.org/

 
 
 

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Post by Carl M. Pears » Tue, 03 Sep 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>In all other situations, the BCA General Rules apply.
>Ok Guys. Let's go over the game and rules. Post your suggestions for
>improvement.

I selected rotation because it is very difficult to run 15

Quote:
>balls sequentially.
>When a majority have approved, we post the final
>rules and the games begin.
> Jim Meador

Jim, friend and fellow pool obsessive, you are a
commie ***ed psycho sicko slimey rat dog reptilian insect.

I play 9 ball against the "Ghost" all the time and I can
say from experience that the "Ghost" is an evil master.

NOW you want me to lose my cookies to the 15-ball
"Ghost," the big evil brother to the 9-Ball "Ghost"
who holds a 2nd mortgage on my house?  I'm in.

One suggestion in your game-perfectly-designed-to-bruise-ego:
Ball in hand on a miss.  What the hell,
you're half-toast at that point, a pity to get hooked
because that 5 ball you rattled ran behind the 7 and
you can't get there from the kitchen.

A buck says nobody gets into the second rack.
15 ball rotation gets mighty crowded out there.

Carl

 
 
 

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Post by Scott McFarlan » Tue, 03 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:

> Okay guys, here's the deal.
> (snip) read original post for details.
>  Jim Meador

> http://www.billiardworld.com

Sounds like fun.  Count me in!
Let me know when it begins.

Scott McFarlane


 
 
 

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Post by Bulldo » Tue, 03 Sep 1996 04:00:00

I am still in the intermediate level,  but i would be willing to give it a try....i love to shoot
pool....so  count me in!

jeremiah redden

 
 
 

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Post by Ron Shepa » Wed, 04 Sep 1996 04:00:00


Quote:

>Okay guys, here's the deal. [...]

Jim, you might be trying to reinvent a wheel.  Internet pool tournaments
have been going on for several years now.  It is a team competition,
rather than an individual competition, as your suggestion.  It is a lot of
fun!  It is described in the BCA homepage, and results from past
tournaments are archived for the world to see.  The tournament is based on
equal offense (rather than rotation).  The high individual score so far is
176, out of 200, so there is still lots of room for improvement.  The next
tournament is in October -- plenty of time to get a team together.

$.02 -Ron Shepard

 
 
 

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Post by Ben Pa » Wed, 04 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>Basic Rules: Call only the pocket. Anyway it goes is okay. Next ball in
>the rotation may be used to play a combination on any other ball on the
>table (as in nine ball). All balls made with one stroke are counted, as
>long as the next ball in the sequence hit first.

   In the spirit of rotation, which is basically a silly game, I think we
should count slop.  I dunno about you guys but going rail first when the
object ball isn't close to the rail is pretty iffy for me.  Like the kid
who forgot to bring a *** to the prom, I use the bang 'em and pray
method :-)

   As far as what to do past 120 (not that it'll matter for me) I'd say
finish the rack, re-rack them and add the scores.  I suspect even you 150
and out guys will run into trouble soon enough so the game doesn't get
boring.

   - Ben

 
 
 

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Post by Jim Meado » Thu, 05 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:



> Jim, you might be trying to reinvent a wheel.  Internet pool tournaments have been going on for several years now.

Yea Ron, I know about that. I am usually in a hurry when I am on the
pooter, so I don't spend too much time at one place. I will have to
revisit the BCA page and spend more time reading about it. Do you play
Equal Offense?

I still wnat to try this "individual" thing out here. But you are right.

Jim Meador

http://www.billiardworld.com

 
 
 

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Post by Steve Stanner » Thu, 05 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Quote:




> > Jim, you might be trying to reinvent a wheel.  Internet pool tournaments have been going on for several years now.

> Yea Ron, I know about that. I am usually in a hurry when I am on the
> pooter, so I don't spend too much time at one place. I will have to
> revisit the BCA page and spend more time reading about it. Do you play
> Equal Offense?

> I still wnat to try this "individual" thing out here. But you are right.

It's only a team format in the sense that individual's scores are added together
to make teams scores.  You can still try for the high individual score, and they
do post the individual scores, in rank order.

It's a lot of fun, by the way.  You should get a team together.  Even though your opponent
never shoots at the same table as you, there are some interesting decisions to make.  Plus
it's fun competing with the people you see on this newsgroup.  Last tournament we had
three teams out of the same pool hall, and we should have that many this October too.

 
 
 

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Post by Ben Pa » Thu, 05 Sep 1996 04:00:00


|>
|> >Okay guys, here's the deal. [...]
|>
|> Jim, you might be trying to reinvent a wheel.  Internet pool tournaments
|> have been going on for several years now.  It is a team competition,
|> rather than an individual competition, as your suggestion.  It is a lot of
|> fun!  It is described in the BCA homepage, and results from past
|> tournaments are archived for the world to see.  The tournament is based on
|> equal offense (rather than rotation).  The high individual score so far is
|> 176, out of 200, so there is still lots of room for improvement.  The next
|> tournament is in October -- plenty of time to get a team together.

   Actually, I like Jim's method quite a bit better, for a couple of reasons.
First, if I have a bunch of friends together we'll most likely want to
compete with each other.  An internet competition is much more useful for
when your buddies have gotten sick of pool and/or you.  Second, rotation
is a lot more fun when practicing by yourself than straight pool is.  You
have to go through all sorts of contortions to get shape on the next ball,
especially early in the rack.

   I think the internet is big enough for both wheels, in any case.  I'll
leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine which is round and which
is square ;-)

   - Ben

 
 
 

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Post by Bob Jewe » Fri, 06 Sep 1996 04:00:00

: First, if I have a bunch of friends together we'll most likely want to
: compete with each other.  An internet competition is much more useful for
: when your buddies have gotten sick of pool and/or you.

On the contrary, one of the advantages of IEO, especially for the
relative beginners, is the support they get from team members.  Try
it, you might like it.  The next tournament is Saturday, October 12th.

Bob Jewett

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Bellhous » Sun, 08 Sep 1996 04:00:00

(snip)
 --- one of the advantages of IEO, especially for the

Quote:
> relative beginners, is the support they get from team members.  Try
> it, you might like it.  The next tournament is Saturday, October 12th.

> Bob Jewett

Bob,
I moved from Texas (Houston/Austin) to the mountains of North Georgia 20
years ago.  Had a good pool hall locally that closed, and may have
another again soon, but in the meantime I have to drive 100 miles to
Greenville or 90 to Atlanta to find a good game on a 9' table.  Playing
yourself all the time on your own table is not the best way to learn.  
So, until the local place re-opens (or until Inoccuous moves to the area)
I vote in favor of Internet Singles competition, whether in the IEO
format or the modified rotation scheme.  You just can't round up 5
players reliably around here!

Best,

Tom Bellhouse

 
 
 

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Post by Cart » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00

well if you're in north georgia you might try Chattanooga, TN there are
some great rooms there.
Rufus....


says...

Quote:


>(snip)
> --- one of the advantages of IEO, especially for the
>> relative beginners, is the support they get from team members.  Try
>> it, you might like it.  The next tournament is Saturday, October
12th.

>> Bob Jewett

>Bob,
>I moved from Texas (Houston/Austin) to the mountains of North Georgia
20
>years ago.  Had a good pool hall locally that closed, and may have
>another again soon, but in the meantime I have to drive 100 miles to
>Greenville or 90 to Atlanta to find a good game on a 9' table.  
Playing
>yourself all the time on your own table is not the best way to learn.
>So, until the local place re-opens (or until Inoccuous moves to the
area)
>I vote in favor of Internet Singles competition, whether in the IEO
>format or the modified rotation scheme.  You just can't round up 5
>players reliably around here!

>Best,

>Tom Bellhouse