$100.00 shopping spree

$100.00 shopping spree

Post by recoveryjon » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:46:43


Hi, I'm primarily a nine ball player and have won a $100.00 shopping
spree from a pool store on another website.I was considering spending
the money on the following choices:
1.Ray Martins- 99 Critical Shots in Pool (book)
2.Phil Capelle-Play Your Best Nine Ball (book)
3.Capelle on Nine Ball-Archer vs Reyes (vhs and complimentary book)
I'd appreciate and feedback on these books/video as to if they are
good choices and money well spent.

Another alternative ( to the above package) is a set of Tapes by Ryan
Elliot called "Overcoming Contenderosis".
These tapes caught my eye because I seem to play really well in
practice and table games as opposed to money/tournament games,
especially money games.I am curious, however somewhat scepitical about
these tapes. I am only considering buying the tapes because of the
free prize money which makes it for me less of a gamble.

Any commentary about the afformentioned choices would be
appreciated.Please comment on the choices based on your experience
with these items (or reliable hearsay) rather than scepticle
speculation.That would be much appreciated. Thanks, RJ

 
 
 

$100.00 shopping spree

Post by Ravelom » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:25:28

Quote:

>.I was considering spending
>the money on the following choices:
>1.Ray Martins- 99 Critical Shots in Pool (book)
>2.Phil Capelle-Play Your Best Nine Ball (book)
>3.Capelle on Nine Ball-Archer vs Reyes (vhs and complimentary book)
>I'd appreciate and feedback on these books/video as to if they are
>good choices and money well spent.

>Another alternative ( to the above package) is a set of Tapes by Ryan
>Elliot called "Overcoming Contenderosis".
>These tapes caught my eye because I seem to play really well in
>practice and table games as opposed to money/tournament games,
>especially money games.I am curious, however somewhat scepitical about
>these tapes. I am only considering buying the tapes because of the
>free prize money which makes it for me less of a gamble.

>Any commentary about the afformentioned choices would be
>appreciated.Please comment on the choices based on your experience
>with these items (or reliable hearsay) rather than scepticle
>speculation.That would be much appreciated. Thanks, RJ

Ray Martin's book (99 Critical Shots) is good but it is geared towards straight
pool. Phil Capelle's "Play Your Best Pool" or Robert Byrne's "New Standard Book
of Pool and Billiards" would IMO, be far better choices for 9 Ball aficionados.
The rest of your choices are good picks.

Forget the "Overcoming Contenderosis" and buy Bob Fancher's "Pleasures of Small
Motions" it's better and it's far, far, less expensive (under $15).

Jerry R

 
 
 

$100.00 shopping spree

Post by Play4aBuc » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:55:45

The two best books by far are:
-"Byrne's New Standard Book of Pool and Billiards" (by Robert Byrne).
-"Play Your Best Pool" (by Phil Capelle).

-99 Critical Shots, it's between OK and Good for me, many others like it
more.

-Phil Capelle-Play Your Best Nine Ball, a teammate of mine say's this is
very good.  Phil's other book above covers 8-ball and 9-ball.  I don't think
you can go wrong buying any of Phil's pool books.

Cheers,
Jim

Quote:
>Hi, I'm primarily a nine ball player and have won a $100.00 shopping
>spree from a pool store on another website.I was considering spending
>the money on the following choices:
>1.Ray Martins- 99 Critical Shots in Pool (book)
>2.Phil Capelle-Play Your Best Nine Ball (book)
>3.Capelle on Nine Ball-Archer vs Reyes (vhs and complimentary book)
>I'd appreciate and feedback on these books/video as to if they are
>good choices and money well spent.

>Another alternative ( to the above package) is a set of Tapes by Ryan
>Elliot called "Overcoming Contenderosis".
>These tapes caught my eye because I seem to play really well in
>practice and table games as opposed to money/tournament games,
>especially money games.I am curious, however somewhat scepitical about
>these tapes. I am only considering buying the tapes because of the
>free prize money which makes it for me less of a gamble.

>Any commentary about the afformentioned choices would be
>appreciated.Please comment on the choices based on your experience
>with these items (or reliable hearsay) rather than scepticle
>speculation.That would be much appreciated. Thanks, RJ


 
 
 

$100.00 shopping spree

Post by Bill » Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:25:44

Quote:

> Hi, I'm primarily a nine ball player and have won a $100.00 shopping
> spree from a pool store on another website.I was considering spending
> the money on the following choices:
> 1.Ray Martins- 99 Critical Shots in Pool (book)
> 2.Phil Capelle-Play Your Best Nine Ball (book)
> 3.Capelle on Nine Ball-Archer vs Reyes (vhs and complimentary book)
> I'd appreciate and feedback on these books/video as to if they are
> good choices and money well spent.

> Another alternative ( to the above package) is a set of Tapes by Ryan
> Elliot called "Overcoming Contenderosis".
> These tapes caught my eye because I seem to play really well in
> practice and table games as opposed to money/tournament games,
> especially money games.I am curious, however somewhat scepitical about
> these tapes. I am only considering buying the tapes because of the
> free prize money which makes it for me less of a gamble.

> Any commentary about the afformentioned choices would be
> appreciated.Please comment on the choices based on your experience
> with these items (or reliable hearsay) rather than scepticle
> speculation.That would be much appreciated. Thanks, RJ

I wouldn't do #3 above.  I have, it's not worth it.

.................Billy

 
 
 

$100.00 shopping spree

Post by Jim Eale » Thu, 29 Jan 2004 00:12:53



Quote:

> I wouldn't do #3 above.  I have, it's not worth it.

> .................Billy

I have to disagree.  The Reyes-Archer match is a classic and Capelle's
analysis of the individual shots is very informative.  From what others have
said here on this forum, I would get the DVD rather than the VHS if I had
both players.

Jim Eales

 
 
 

$100.00 shopping spree

Post by Rufu » Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:45:10

I have the Archer vs. Reyes DVD and find it to be quite useful. The
book is a nice complement. What I have found most useful is looking at
when and how they play safteys.

Rufus

Quote:





> > I wouldn't do #3 above.  I have, it's not worth it.

> > .................Billy

> I have to disagree.  The Reyes-Archer match is a classic and Capelle's
> analysis of the individual shots is very informative.  From what others have
> said here on this forum, I would get the DVD rather than the VHS if I had
> both players.

> Jim Eales

 
 
 

$100.00 shopping spree

Post by Ro » Fri, 30 Jan 2004 02:06:59

Quote:

> Hi, I'm primarily a nine ball player and have won a $100.00 shopping
> spree from a pool store on another website.I was considering spending
> the money on the following choices:
> 1.Ray Martins- 99 Critical Shots in Pool (book)

Great book. Not, as someone here mentioned, geared to straight pool
except in the very back pages. There are a couple of mistakes in the
book, but otherwise a good practice drill book.

Quote:
> 2.Phil Capelle-Play Your Best Nine Ball (book)

I could rave about this book, but I think I already did in a post
about a year or two ago. You can check the Google archive. It would be
preceded by "REVIEW:" In my opinion, this is the single most
comprehensive book on 9-ball ever written. I also think Capelle's
"Play Your Best Pool" is fantastic--and is, in my opinion, better than
the oft-cited Byrne's Standard. My copies of both books are dog-eared,
highlighted, notated, etc.

Quote:
> 3.Capelle on Nine Ball-Archer vs Reyes (vhs and complimentary book)
> I'd appreciate and feedback on these books/video as to if they are
> good choices and money well spent.

It really is a great match, and the small book that comes with it is
interesting if you want to compare your game to either of these two.
(Let me spare you the suspense: Your game sucks in comparison. So does
mine. Welcome to the club.) I personally found Capelle's video
commentary less informative than I expected. Still, this isn't a bad
purchase by any means. I'd certainly never toss it from my collection
and, in fact, was looking at the small book just the other night.

Quote:

> Another alternative ( to the above package) is a set of Tapes by Ryan
> Elliot called "Overcoming Contenderosis".
> These tapes caught my eye because I seem to play really well in
> practice and table games as opposed to money/tournament games,
> especially money games.I am curious, however somewhat scepitical about
> these tapes. I am only considering buying the tapes because of the
> free prize money which makes it for me less of a gamble.

Do you know why people sell self-help tapes at such exorbitant prices?
Because other people are willing to buy them. There isn't a book,
tape, class, etc. in the world that is going to make you less nervous
or shoot better when the pressure is on. Trust me when I tell you that
you are no different than anyone else in that respect--I shoot great
at practice, even in warm-up before league matches I have been known
to break-and-run racks of 8- and 9-ball with some regularity. During a
match things are different, though. That's normal. Someone here
mentioned Fancher's Pleasures of Small Motions, which again I reviewed
here a year or two ago. A good explanation of the basic REAL
psychology involved in competition. It won't cure you of nervousness,
but it might help you realize that you're nor different than anyone
else.

Rob

 
 
 

$100.00 shopping spree

Post by recoveryjon » Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:50:18

Quote:


> > Hi, I'm primarily a nine ball player and have won a $100.00 shopping
> > spree from a pool store on another website.I was considering spending
> > the money on the following choices:
> > 1.Ray Martins- 99 Critical Shots in Pool (book)

> Great book. Not, as someone here mentioned, geared to straight pool
> except in the very back pages. There are a couple of mistakes in the
> book, but otherwise a good practice drill book.

> > 2.Phil Capelle-Play Your Best Nine Ball (book)

> I could rave about this book, but I think I already did in a post
> about a year or two ago. You can check the Google archive. It would be
> preceded by "REVIEW:" In my opinion, this is the single most
> comprehensive book on 9-ball ever written. I also think Capelle's
> "Play Your Best Pool" is fantastic--and is, in my opinion, better than
> the oft-cited Byrne's Standard. My copies of both books are dog-eared,
> highlighted, notated, etc.

> > 3.Capelle on Nine Ball-Archer vs Reyes (vhs and complimentary book)
> > I'd appreciate and feedback on these books/video as to if they are
> > good choices and money well spent.

> It really is a great match, and the small book that comes with it is
> interesting if you want to compare your game to either of these two.
> (Let me spare you the suspense: Your game sucks in comparison. So does
> mine. Welcome to the club.) I personally found Capelle's video
> commentary less informative than I expected. Still, this isn't a bad
> purchase by any means. I'd certainly never toss it from my collection
> and, in fact, was looking at the small book just the other night.

> > Another alternative ( to the above package) is a set of Tapes by Ryan
> > Elliot called "Overcoming Contenderosis".
> > These tapes caught my eye because I seem to play really well in
> > practice and table games as opposed to money/tournament games,
> > especially money games.I am curious, however somewhat scepitical about
> > these tapes. I am only considering buying the tapes because of the
> > free prize money which makes it for me less of a gamble.

> Do you know why people sell self-help tapes at such exorbitant prices?
> Because other people are willing to buy them. There isn't a book,
> tape, class, etc. in the world that is going to make you less nervous
> or shoot better when the pressure is on. Trust me when I tell you that
> you are no different than anyone else in that respect--I shoot great
> at practice, even in warm-up before league matches I have been known
> to break-and-run racks of 8- and 9-ball with some regularity. During a
> match things are different, though. That's normal. Someone here
> mentioned Fancher's Pleasures of Small Motions, which again I reviewed
> here a year or two ago. A good explanation of the basic REAL
> psychology involved in competition. It won't cure you of nervousness,
> but it might help you realize that you're nor different than anyone
> else.

> Rob

Hi Rob, Thanks for your detailed review on the 4 different items I was
considering ordering, much appreciated.I just placed an order on Phil
Capelles- Play your best nine ball,Also his dvd (and book) featuring
the match of Archer vs Reyes, and Ray Martins 99 Critical Shots in
Pool.The main game in my town (Vancouver, Canada)is 9 ball so I'm sure
I'll learn something from Phil. Also I've been told Ray Martins book
features lots of unique specialty shots that I'm sure will help me win
a game or two.

I had earlier read the book "Pleasures of Small Motions" and found it
a good read and I also read "The Inner Game of Tennis" another good
read.As far as the Mental Game goes I think nothing can replace
getting into the fire and playing tough players in pressure
situations.  Although helpful, those books offer no magic pill and I'm
sure the "Overcoming Conterosis Tapes" wouldn't have either.

Thanks to everyone else who commented and I'll do a follow up post
several months down the road on my opinion of the above prizes I
choose. RJ