Ferrule- Black or White

Ferrule- Black or White

Post by Jeff Tayl » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:11:21


Hello all, I would like to ask why some people choose to use black
ferrules over white ferrules. I have heard it has something to due
with improving follow through, due to not being able to see the tip.
Anyway I was just wondering what others thought about this. I have
heard a lot of people ask this question and never had a resonable
answer.
Thanks
Jeff
 
 
 

Ferrule- Black or White

Post by tony mathew » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:56:32

Quote:

> Hello all, I would like to ask why some people choose to use black
> ferrules over white ferrules. I have heard it has something to due
> with improving follow through, due to not being able to see the tip.

Huh??????????

I've heard many justifications for using one colour over the other, but
this is a new one to me! I think this explanation is ridiculous!

I've installed both white, black, brown, red, and even striped ferrules
for players over the years. Pool players are basically nuts, so they
often come up with all sorts of crazy explanations for why they prefer
one thing over another.

One player that I know likes a matte finished black ferrule.  His
reasoning is that he finds a glossy white ferrule to be distracting, and
it draws his eye back to the tip when he wants to look at the cue ball.
Sounds reasonable. Then again, I've heard another player say that his
black ferrule creates more of a contrast against the white background of
the cue ball, so he finds it easier to judge the cue tip placement.

Some players cannot play with a dark coloured ferrule because they find
that distracting. They can only play with white.

I've also heard of a player that couldn't use the dark ferrule (brown
phenolic) that I installed for him until I added a thin white pad under
the tip. He claimed that he had poor depth perception, and that the
brown ferrule blended in with the brown tip, and this caused him to
accidentally hit the cue ball with his tip more often.

The final truth is that it is more of a preference issue than anything
else. I've seen top players use dark AND light coloured ferrules. There
is no inherent superiority for one over the other.

My argument has always been that ones eyes should be on the object ball,
so the colour of the ferrule should be irrelevant. If my ferrule fell
off when I was looking at the object ball, I'd expect to hit the cue
ball with the broken, bare wooden end of the shaft.

Tony
-then I'd look at the end in stark surprise!

 
 
 

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Post by Rodd » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:22:02

Well I guess a lot of the ferrule color argument has to do with peripheral
vision...you might be focusing on the object ball, but sometimes you have to
shift your vision back to the cue ball and you can see the ferrule in your
peripheral vision and it might be a distraction.  And I've actually hit the
ball with the bare wooden end of the shaft...it isn't a pleasent noise or
feeling.  (I was using a really cheezy house cue with a slip on tip and it
slipped off in my bridge).

-Roddy


Quote:


> > Hello all, I would like to ask why some people choose to use black
> > ferrules over white ferrules. I have heard it has something to due
> > with improving follow through, due to not being able to see the tip.

> Huh??????????

> I've heard many justifications for using one colour over the other, but
> this is a new one to me! I think this explanation is ridiculous!

> I've installed both white, black, brown, red, and even striped ferrules
> for players over the years. Pool players are basically nuts, so they
> often come up with all sorts of crazy explanations for why they prefer
> one thing over another.

> One player that I know likes a matte finished black ferrule.  His
> reasoning is that he finds a glossy white ferrule to be distracting, and
> it draws his eye back to the tip when he wants to look at the cue ball.
> Sounds reasonable. Then again, I've heard another player say that his
> black ferrule creates more of a contrast against the white background of
> the cue ball, so he finds it easier to judge the cue tip placement.

> Some players cannot play with a dark coloured ferrule because they find
> that distracting. They can only play with white.

> I've also heard of a player that couldn't use the dark ferrule (brown
> phenolic) that I installed for him until I added a thin white pad under
> the tip. He claimed that he had poor depth perception, and that the
> brown ferrule blended in with the brown tip, and this caused him to
> accidentally hit the cue ball with his tip more often.

> The final truth is that it is more of a preference issue than anything
> else. I've seen top players use dark AND light coloured ferrules. There
> is no inherent superiority for one over the other.

> My argument has always been that ones eyes should be on the object ball,
> so the colour of the ferrule should be irrelevant. If my ferrule fell
> off when I was looking at the object ball, I'd expect to hit the cue
> ball with the broken, bare wooden end of the shaft.

> Tony
> -then I'd look at the end in stark surprise!


 
 
 

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Post by Tony DeAngel » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:08:22

 Pool players are basically nuts...

Says you.  Here's the truth: all ferrules should be Simonis green. All
tips should be shaped to the radius of a wheat penny, and all players
should wear Smart Wool gray socks.  Oh, and don't forget to hum
"Suspicous Minds" during the lag!  Forget that and you might as well
unscrew and go home!

 
 
 

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Post by tony mathew » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:10:31

Quote:


>  Pool players are basically nuts...

> Here's the truth: all ferrules should be Simonis green. All
> tips should be shaped to the radius of a wheat penny, and all players
> should wear Smart Wool gray socks.  Oh, and don't forget to hum
> "Suspicous Minds" during the lag!  Forget that and you might as well
> unscrew and go home!

See, I told you!

Tony
-stark raving if you ask me....

 
 
 

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Post by dacot » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:59:40

Quote:

> Pool players are basically nuts, so they
> often come up with all sorts of crazy explanations for why they prefer
> one thing over another.

I've never heard a more true statement (especially looking at this group).

- dacote

 
 
 

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Post by lfiguero » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:37:42

IIRC, Luther Lassiter, in his later years, painted his ferrule red so he
could see it better.

Lou Figueroa


Quote:


> > Hello all, I would like to ask why some people choose to use black
> > ferrules over white ferrules. I have heard it has something to due
> > with improving follow through, due to not being able to see the tip.

> Huh??????????

> I've heard many justifications for using one colour over the other, but
> this is a new one to me! I think this explanation is ridiculous!

> I've installed both white, black, brown, red, and even striped ferrules
> for players over the years. Pool players are basically nuts, so they
> often come up with all sorts of crazy explanations for why they prefer
> one thing over another.

> One player that I know likes a matte finished black ferrule.  His
> reasoning is that he finds a glossy white ferrule to be distracting, and
> it draws his eye back to the tip when he wants to look at the cue ball.
> Sounds reasonable. Then again, I've heard another player say that his
> black ferrule creates more of a contrast against the white background of
> the cue ball, so he finds it easier to judge the cue tip placement.

> Some players cannot play with a dark coloured ferrule because they find
> that distracting. They can only play with white.

> I've also heard of a player that couldn't use the dark ferrule (brown
> phenolic) that I installed for him until I added a thin white pad under
> the tip. He claimed that he had poor depth perception, and that the
> brown ferrule blended in with the brown tip, and this caused him to
> accidentally hit the cue ball with his tip more often.

> The final truth is that it is more of a preference issue than anything
> else. I've seen top players use dark AND light coloured ferrules. There
> is no inherent superiority for one over the other.

> My argument has always been that ones eyes should be on the object ball,
> so the colour of the ferrule should be irrelevant. If my ferrule fell
> off when I was looking at the object ball, I'd expect to hit the cue
> ball with the broken, bare wooden end of the shaft.

> Tony
> -then I'd look at the end in stark surprise!

 
 
 

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Post by Mikko J?ntt » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:49:27

Tony, could you make me a striped ferrule with such a
hypnotic pattern, which would put me in a deep trance
and I wouldn't miss a single shot ? It might be
useful :-)

I still miss shots, because my bed linen stripes were
not aligned three years ago... sheesh ! I think pool
players have the worst (the best) excuses....

Regards,
Mikko Jantti
Espoo, Finland
currently Delft, the Netherlands

Quote:


>> Hello all, I would like to ask why some people choose to use black
>> ferrules over white ferrules. I have heard it has something to due
>> with improving follow through, due to not being able to see the tip.
> Huh??????????
> I've heard many justifications for using one colour over the other, but
> this is a new one to me! I think this explanation is ridiculous!
> I've installed both white, black, brown, red, and even striped ferrules
> for players over the years. Pool players are basically nuts, so they
> often come up with all sorts of crazy explanations for why they prefer
> one thing over another.
> One player that I know likes a matte finished black ferrule.  His
> reasoning is that he finds a glossy white ferrule to be distracting, and
> it draws his eye back to the tip when he wants to look at the cue ball.
> Sounds reasonable. Then again, I've heard another player say that his
> black ferrule creates more of a contrast against the white background of
> the cue ball, so he finds it easier to judge the cue tip placement.
> Some players cannot play with a dark coloured ferrule because they find
> that distracting. They can only play with white.
> I've also heard of a player that couldn't use the dark ferrule (brown
> phenolic) that I installed for him until I added a thin white pad under
> the tip. He claimed that he had poor depth perception, and that the
> brown ferrule blended in with the brown tip, and this caused him to
> accidentally hit the cue ball with his tip more often.
> The final truth is that it is more of a preference issue than anything
> else. I've seen top players use dark AND light coloured ferrules. There
> is no inherent superiority for one over the other.
> My argument has always been that ones eyes should be on the object ball,
> so the colour of the ferrule should be irrelevant. If my ferrule fell
> off when I was looking at the object ball, I'd expect to hit the cue
> ball with the broken, bare wooden end of the shaft.
> Tony
> -then I'd look at the end in stark surprise!

 
 
 

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Post by Barry C » Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:13:18

A player rep for me, will not let me put a *** bumper in his cue.  Why
you ask?
He believes he can get more spin without one.

Barry C. <thinks if they believe it, then it's true

http://SportToday.org/


Quote:

> > Pool players are basically nuts, so they
> > often come up with all sorts of crazy explanations for why they prefer
> > one thing over another.

> I've never heard a more true statement (especially looking at this group).

> - dacote

 
 
 

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Post by WilleeCu » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:54:20

What ... they don't have baseball in Finland.
They are the most extreme about superstitions and equipment.

William Lee


Quote:
> Tony, could you make me a striped ferrule with such a
> hypnotic pattern, which would put me in a deep trance
> and I wouldn't miss a single shot ? It might be
> useful :-)

> I still miss shots, because my bed linen stripes were
> not aligned three years ago... sheesh ! I think pool
> players have the worst (the best) excuses....

> Regards,
> Mikko Jantti
> Espoo, Finland
> currently Delft, the Netherlands



> >> Hello all, I would like to ask why some people choose to use black
> >> ferrules over white ferrules. I have heard it has something to due
> >> with improving follow through, due to not being able to see the tip.

> > Huh??????????

> > I've heard many justifications for using one colour over the other, but
> > this is a new one to me! I think this explanation is ridiculous!

> > I've installed both white, black, brown, red, and even striped ferrules
> > for players over the years. Pool players are basically nuts, so they
> > often come up with all sorts of crazy explanations for why they prefer
> > one thing over another.

> > One player that I know likes a matte finished black ferrule.  His
> > reasoning is that he finds a glossy white ferrule to be distracting, and
> > it draws his eye back to the tip when he wants to look at the cue ball.
> > Sounds reasonable. Then again, I've heard another player say that his
> > black ferrule creates more of a contrast against the white background of
> > the cue ball, so he finds it easier to judge the cue tip placement.

> > Some players cannot play with a dark coloured ferrule because they find
> > that distracting. They can only play with white.

> > I've also heard of a player that couldn't use the dark ferrule (brown
> > phenolic) that I installed for him until I added a thin white pad under
> > the tip. He claimed that he had poor depth perception, and that the
> > brown ferrule blended in with the brown tip, and this caused him to
> > accidentally hit the cue ball with his tip more often.

> > The final truth is that it is more of a preference issue than anything
> > else. I've seen top players use dark AND light coloured ferrules. There
> > is no inherent superiority for one over the other.

> > My argument has always been that ones eyes should be on the object ball,
> > so the colour of the ferrule should be irrelevant. If my ferrule fell
> > off when I was looking at the object ball, I'd expect to hit the cue
> > ball with the broken, bare wooden end of the shaft.

> > Tony
> > -then I'd look at the end in stark surprise!

 
 
 

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Post by Smorgass Bor » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 00:31:53

Lou lauded:
IIRC, Luther Lassiter, in his later years, painted his ferrule red so he
could see it better.
Lou Figueroa

 (*<~   What ?   Red ?   Aw man, that's just sick.

  people like that give pool a bad name,

                  Doug
 ~>*(((><  Big fish eat Little fish  ><)))*<~

 
 
 

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Post by Mikko J?ntt » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 01:27:50

Quote:

> What ... they don't have baseball in Finland.
> They are the most extreme about superstitions and equipment.

Well, only a handful of people play baseball in Finland.
We have our own game of Finnish baseball which is quite
different from baseball and also quite popular among Finns.
And I don't think they are so superstitious...

I think there are many superstitions in all the sports.
Like in hockey, the order players leave the dressingroom,
and some players (like Gretzky) played always shirt tucked
into pants etc. Well, I'd still hate to see a top world
class 9-ball player making superstitious preparations
before each rack: tap the floor twice, pick your nose,
scratch your ear twice on each side, two steps back,
grab your crotch, unleash a primate war-cry and break
after exhaling seven times. Yep, should work...

Regards,
Mikko Jantti
Espoo, Finland
currently Delft, the Netherlands

 
 
 

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Post by ric » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 02:53:48

Quote:
>I think there are many superstitions in all the sports.

We used to have a hoops coach at the University of Memphis (then
Memphis State) who wouldn't change his underwear as long as the team
was winning.

Hmmmm...maybe that's why he's doing a radio sports talk show now and
not coaching...

On 19 Nov 2002 16:27:50 GMT, Mikko =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E4ntti?=

Quote:


>> What ... they don't have baseball in Finland.
>> They are the most extreme about superstitions and equipment.

>Well, only a handful of people play baseball in Finland.
>We have our own game of Finnish baseball which is quite
>different from baseball and also quite popular among Finns.
>And I don't think they are so superstitious...

>I think there are many superstitions in all the sports.
>Like in hockey, the order players leave the dressingroom,
>and some players (like Gretzky) played always shirt tucked
>into pants etc. Well, I'd still hate to see a top world
>class 9-ball player making superstitious preparations
>before each rack: tap the floor twice, pick your nose,
>scratch your ear twice on each side, two steps back,
>grab your crotch, unleash a primate war-cry and break
>after exhaling seven times. Yep, should work...

>Regards,
>Mikko Jantti
>Espoo, Finland
>currently Delft, the Netherlands

 
 
 

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Post by tony mathew » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:36:16

Quote:

> Tony, could you make me a striped ferrule with such a
> hypnotic pattern, which would put me in a deep trance
> and I wouldn't miss a single shot ? It might be
> useful :-)

Sure, I'll install a tiny motor and put the ferrule on bearings. That way, the
pattern will swirl and rotate as your eyes slowly cross.........

Quote:
> I still miss shots, because my bed linen stripes were
> not aligned three years ago... sheesh ! I think pool
> players have the worst (the best) excuses....

They're nuts I tell ya! Nuts!

Tony

 
 
 

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Post by David Malo » Thu, 21 Nov 2002 06:11:25

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 03:10:31 -0800, tony mathews

Quote:

>See, I told you!
>-stark raving if you ask me....

Well not 'stark'... he did say all players should wear Smart Wool gray
socks.

David "The Hamster" Malone