Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by RIP » Mon, 04 Feb 2002 12:16:25


I was at Snooker`s Billiards in Providence,R.I. today playing in the
Joss tour stop there.when I was lucky enough to witness a rare
matchup.Corr vs Immonen 2nd round winners side race to 9.I imagine
this is going to surprise a lot of people.Karen won the first
game.Mika won the next six in what was starting to look like a
blowout.Karen sucked it up and  proceeded to win 8 out of the next 9
games for a 9-7 win.This is one women who can shoot her ass off.

George Comerford
Providence

 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by Keith » Mon, 04 Feb 2002 12:47:50

Why is it, that most people seem to think that women can't hang with the men
in Pool?


Quote:
> I was at Snooker`s Billiards in Providence,R.I. today playing in the
> Joss tour stop there.when I was lucky enough to witness a rare
> matchup.Corr vs Immonen 2nd round winners side race to 9.I imagine
> this is going to surprise a lot of people.Karen won the first
> game.Mika won the next six in what was starting to look like a
> blowout.Karen sucked it up and  proceeded to win 8 out of the next 9
> games for a 9-7 win.This is one women who can shoot her ass off.

> George Comerford
> Providence


 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by Peter Pipe » Mon, 04 Feb 2002 13:50:33



Quote:
> Why is it, that most people seem to think that women can't hang with the men
> in Pool?

I agree, I have don't understand what difference gender makes in this
game, the only exception possibly being height and only when they have to
stretch on a 9' table.  I would rather play like Karen Corr or Allison
Fischer than just about any pro I have seen.  

 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by jdub » Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:18:11

It's the break.  If they can score on the break they can control what
happens next.... and they're pretty darn good at that.

--Jim


Quote:


> > Why is it, that most people seem to think that women can't hang with the
men
> > in Pool?

> I agree, I have don't understand what difference gender makes in this
> game, the only exception possibly being height and only when they have to
> stretch on a 9' table.  I would rather play like Karen Corr or Allison
> Fischer than just about any pro I have seen.

 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by WnSco » Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:34:04

There is obviously a difference between the way some of the men break and the
way most of the women break, and this can make a difference, but I think that
the difference is not so much in the break (especially if they're using the
Sardo rack and racking the nine on the spot) as it is in the safety play.  I
seem to notice a greater disparity between the top women (say, Allison Fisher)
and the best men when it comes to safety play, and also kicking.

I would never doubt that the very best women players (Corr and Fisher in
particular) could be competitive with the best men players in any given race to
nine (Jean Balukas used to be quite competitive in men's tournaments), but I
think over the long hall those women would have a very tough time*** with
the top men.

 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by loui » Mon, 04 Feb 2002 19:11:26

Quote:
> Why is it, that most people seem to think that women can't hang with the
men
> in Pool?

Because they can't.

Karen is the exception.

-louis

 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by Kirk Douglas » Mon, 04 Feb 2002 19:18:58

"KeithD" wrote

Quote:
> Why is it, that most people seem to think that women can't hang with the
men
> in Pool?

Because they can't!!! She beat him one race to 9, let Mika or any top 20
male pro beat on her or Allison all day long and seee how the score looks.

I guarantee the score would be real ugly,
Kirk

Quote:



> > I was at Snooker`s Billiards in Providence,R.I. today playing in the
> > Joss tour stop there.when I was lucky enough to witness a rare
> > matchup.Corr vs Immonen 2nd round winners side race to 9.I imagine
> > this is going to surprise a lot of people.Karen won the first
> > game.Mika won the next six in what was starting to look like a
> > blowout.Karen sucked it up and  proceeded to win 8 out of the next 9
> > games for a 9-7 win.This is one women who can shoot her ass off.

> > George Comerford
> > Providence

 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by Steve Ell » Mon, 04 Feb 2002 23:02:57


Quote:
>I was at Snooker`s Billiards in Providence,R.I. today playing in the
>Joss tour stop there.when I was lucky enough to witness a rare
>matchup.Corr vs Immonen 2nd round winners side race to 9.I imagine
>this is going to surprise a lot of people.Karen won the first
>game.Mika won the next six in what was starting to look like a
>blowout.Karen sucked it up and  proceeded to win 8 out of the next 9
>games for a 9-7 win.This is one women who can shoot her ass off.

>George Comerford
>Providence

I'm still an Allison fan, we'll see if Karen stays with her when she
spending all her time doing sponsership thingys instead of playing in
regional men's tournaments.
I also still remain that though there are 1000's of women who can beat
me easily, they just don't have the athletic gifts to hang in there
with the top men. And whether pool is a game or a sport in the end
athleticism counts.
BTW, did you notice how Joe Tucker was doing?
Steve.
 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by ric » Mon, 04 Feb 2002 23:18:37

Who in the hell is Joe Tucker?



Quote:

>>I was at Snooker`s Billiards in Providence,R.I. today playing in the
>>Joss tour stop there.when I was lucky enough to witness a rare
>>matchup.Corr vs Immonen 2nd round winners side race to 9.I imagine
>>this is going to surprise a lot of people.Karen won the first
>>game.Mika won the next six in what was starting to look like a
>>blowout.Karen sucked it up and  proceeded to win 8 out of the next 9
>>games for a 9-7 win.This is one women who can shoot her ass off.

>>George Comerford
>>Providence

>I'm still an Allison fan, we'll see if Karen stays with her when she
>spending all her time doing sponsership thingys instead of playing in
>regional men's tournaments.
>I also still remain that though there are 1000's of women who can beat
>me easily, they just don't have the athletic gifts to hang in there
>with the top men. And whether pool is a game or a sport in the end
>athleticism counts.
>BTW, did you notice how Joe Tucker was doing?
>Steve.

 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by Bob Johnso » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 01:24:36

With the men using a soft break so effectively, why do we think that
breaking power will continue to separate the men from the boys, women,
girls, etc.    (Etc.?)

--
Bob Johnson, Denver, Colorado
Home of the 1997/1998 World Champion Denver Broncos
Home of the 1996/2001 Stanley Cup Champion Avalanche


Quote:
> There is obviously a difference between the way some of the men break and
the
> way most of the women break, and this can make a difference, but I think
that
> the difference is not so much in the break (especially if they're using
the
> Sardo rack and racking the nine on the spot) as it is in the safety play.
I
> seem to notice a greater disparity between the top women (say, Allison
Fisher)
> and the best men when it comes to safety play, and also kicking.

> I would never doubt that the very best women players (Corr and Fisher in
> particular) could be competitive with the best men players in any given
race to
> nine (Jean Balukas used to be quite competitive in men's tournaments), but
I
> think over the long hall those women would have a very tough time***
with
> the top men.

 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by Ernie Varitimo » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 02:15:51

Quote:

> With the men using a soft break so effectively, why do we think that
> breaking power will continue to separate the men from the boys, women,
> girls, etc.    (Etc.?)

> --
> Bob Johnson, Denver, Colorado

Because that is not the only time when the physical strength of a man over a
women comes into play. Men have a much greater range of ability to stroke in
a controlled manner with varying force with complete control. Their hands
are bigger and stronger, which makes a more stable bridge, they are
generally taller than women so they can get to more shots without contorting
themselves, etc. Look at Mike Masse, he is so strong that he can make the CB
do things that are simply out of the realm of possibilities of most men.

Of course there are other factors that come into play that are far more
subjective, like the innate ability of a man over a women to think with a
more strategically aggressive approach and posture. That's why men are
better at most competitive sports, which are in most cases metaphorically
like war.

-ernie

--
Ernie Varitimos
http://javachief.com

 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by Deno J. Andrew » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 01:43:02

Quote:

> Look at Mike Masse, he is so strong that he can make the CB
> do things that are simply out of the realm of possibilities of most men.

But only with his hands...certainly not with his cue!
Deno J. Andrews
 
 
 

Karen Corr vs Mika Immonen....so you think the women have no chance

Post by Gary Ive » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 03:26:44

Quote:

>Who in the hell is Joe Tucker?

A pro player from Rhode Island, I think.  Haven't seen him play in
several years but he's a good player.  Has a book called "Breaking
Secrets" or some such.  Don't have my copy handy right now.

Gary