Cloth question / problem

Cloth question / problem

Post by Bob » Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:32:36


Recently had some Granito Basalt installed. Like the cloth quite a bit,
plays fast, consistent, looks great. However, from time to time in the past
I have taken a lightly damp cloth and wiped the cloth down, I used to have
Mali. Using the damp cloth from time to time helped get up the chalk dust.
Here is my concern, I tried the same thing on the new Basalt and it now has
some NOTICEABLE streaks that I really need to find a solution for. Brushing
does not help.

Help, please.

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Seegi » Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:47:57

Try coating the entire surface with a fine mist of distilled water. Then brush
it lgithly and mist it again. Allow it to dry completely. It should look like
new.

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Frank » Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:40:03


Quote:
> Recently had some Granito Basalt installed. Like the cloth quite a bit,
> plays fast, consistent, looks great. However, from time to time in the past
> I have taken a lightly damp cloth and wiped the cloth down, I used to have
> Mali. Using the damp cloth from time to time helped get up the chalk dust.
> Here is my concern, I tried the same thing on the new Basalt and it now has
> some NOTICEABLE streaks that I really need to find a solution for. Brushing
> does not help.

> Help, please.

Never put water on your cloth, it will fade the cloth.

--
Frank G
Frank-at-Quick-Clean.com
Clean your pool table cloth with our unique product.
www.quick-clean.com

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Deno J. Andrew » Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:14:10

It is really important that you do two things if you insist on wiping
your cloth with water.  First, make sure to use a towel that is not
colored with anything.  When you see your nice clean white towel and
think that it is pure...really, it is colored with white die.  When you
soak that in warm water and wipe down your table, you are streaking your
cloth with the white die from the towel (in many cases).  With regard to
the water, you should use distilled water and a clean bucket.  Someone
else reported that water will fade the cloth- that is not really true
with the nicer cloths like Granito and Simonis.  These cloths are died
all the way through the wool with very good die of liberal pigment, and
don't fade like cheaper cloth.  But if the water you are using is dirty,
or the bucket or whatever, you can also stain the cloth in streaks.

So find yourself some natural towels that are lint free...get a jug of
distilled water...and go to town.  I suggest getting a good vacuum
cleaner to do the job (because when wiping the table with a wet rag, you
are probably forcing as much dirt into the cloth as you are taking from
the cloth.  With regard to your current problem, don't worry about it.
As long as you change your habits, the streaks will probably soon
disappear.  However, don't try to get them out or else you may make the
situation worse.  They will most likely be gone sooner than you think.

Deno J. Andrews

Quote:

> Recently had some Granito Basalt installed. Like the cloth quite a bit,
> plays fast, consistent, looks great. However, from time to time in the past
> I have taken a lightly damp cloth and wiped the cloth down, I used to have
> Mali. Using the damp cloth from time to time helped get up the chalk dust.
> Here is my concern, I tried the same thing on the new Basalt and it now has
> some NOTICEABLE streaks that I really need to find a solution for. Brushing
> does not help.

> Help, please.

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by dalecu » Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:31:50

use a good old fashion blackboard eraser, dry to clean the cloth.
works like magic

this is not a joke, they used to do it that way at 3C tourneys

HTH
Dale

Quote:

>Recently had some Granito Basalt installed. Like the cloth quite a bit,
>plays fast, consistent, looks great. However, from time to time in the past
>I have taken a lightly damp cloth and wiped the cloth down, I used to have
>Mali. Using the damp cloth from time to time helped get up the chalk dust.
>Here is my concern, I tried the same thing on the new Basalt and it now has
>some NOTICEABLE streaks that I really need to find a solution for. Brushing
>does not help.

>Help, please.

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by tony mathew » Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:00:53

Quote:

>  Using the damp cloth from time to time helped get up the chalk dust.
> Here is my concern, I tried the same thing on the new Basalt and it now has
> some NOTICEABLE streaks that I really need to find a solution for. Brushing
> does not help.

Recently, there was an article in Chalk and Cue magazine by one of the best
Canadian table mechanics. He made it very clear that you should not wipe your
cloth down with a damp cloth. He advocates vacuuming the cloth to remove the
dust from between the fibers.

He seems to indicate that water and chalk dust create a mud that will be hard
to remove in the future.

Although this doesn't really help you now does it?

How about some of that cloth cleaning product that Bob Johnson sells?

Tony

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Mark » Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:14:22

Deno, while we're on the subject of care and feeding of your Gorina....  I
love my Basalt but it sure shows burn marks.  I s there a way to minimize/
lighten them?  I tried the damp towel wipe down but it didn't make much
difference.  TIA

Mark0



| It is really important that you do two things if you insist on wiping
| your cloth with water.  First, make sure to use a towel that is not
| colored with anything.  When you see your nice clean white towel and
| think that it is pure...really, it is colored with white die.  When you
| soak that in warm water and wipe down your table, you are streaking your
| cloth with the white die from the towel (in many cases).  With regard to
| the water, you should use distilled water and a clean bucket.  Someone
| else reported that water will fade the cloth- that is not really true
| with the nicer cloths like Granito and Simonis.  These cloths are died
| all the way through the wool with very good die of liberal pigment, and
| don't fade like cheaper cloth.  But if the water you are using is dirty,
| or the bucket or whatever, you can also stain the cloth in streaks.
|
| So find yourself some natural towels that are lint free...get a jug of
| distilled water...and go to town.  I suggest getting a good vacuum
| cleaner to do the job (because when wiping the table with a wet rag, you
| are probably forcing as much dirt into the cloth as you are taking from
| the cloth.  With regard to your current problem, don't worry about it.
| As long as you change your habits, the streaks will probably soon
| disappear.  However, don't try to get them out or else you may make the
| situation worse.  They will most likely be gone sooner than you think.
|
| Deno J. Andrews
|
| >
| > Recently had some Granito Basalt installed. Like the cloth quite a bit,
| > plays fast, consistent, looks great. However, from time to time in the
past
| > I have taken a lightly damp cloth and wiped the cloth down, I used to
have
| > Mali. Using the damp cloth from time to time helped get up the chalk
dust.
| > Here is my concern, I tried the same thing on the new Basalt and it now
has
| > some NOTICEABLE streaks that I really need to find a solution for.
Brushing
| > does not help.
| >
| > Help, please.

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Deno J. Andrew » Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:37:06

Quit elevating your cue!  Take another piece of cloth (if you have any
extra- if not, email me and I will grab a piece from my closet and send
it to you) and wrap it around a small block of wood...then wipe in a
circular motion over the burn spots.  Depending on how bad they are,
some will disappear while other will stay (like from the breaking
positions).  But again, the best way to keep your cloth looking nice is
to reduce the amount of elevation on your cue stick (it probably wont
hurt your game either :) so that the balls are not being forced into the
cloth off the tip as much.

Deno J. Andrews

Quote:

> Deno, while we're on the subject of care and feeding of your Gorina....  I
> love my Basalt but it sure shows burn marks.  I s there a way to minimize/
> lighten them?  I tried the damp towel wipe down but it didn't make much
> difference.  TIA

> Mark0

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Frank » Sun, 27 Oct 2002 04:13:47


Quote:
> Someone
> else reported that water will fade the cloth- that is not really true
> with the nicer cloths like Granito and Simonis.

Well, when we were researching how to clean the cloth, Simonis told us
that water will fade the cloth and to NEVER put water on the cloth.

--
Frank G
Frank-at-Quick-Clean.com
Clean your pool table cloth with our unique product.
www.quick-clean.com

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Frank » Sun, 27 Oct 2002 04:15:48


Quote:
> He seems to indicate that water and chalk dust create a mud that will be hard
> to remove in the future.

Yes, this is also what we found in our research.
--
Frank G
Frank-at-Quick-Clean.com
Clean your pool table cloth with our unique product.
www.quick-clean.com
 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Mark » Sun, 27 Oct 2002 05:18:02

Thanks.  The spots are primarily along the break areas but some are in the
playing field from draw shots.  The worst ones are from a friend who
*really* must elevate his cue (they look almost yellow).

-MArk0



| Quit elevating your cue!  Take another piece of cloth (if you have any
| extra- if not, email me and I will grab a piece from my closet and send
| it to you) and wrap it around a small block of wood...then wipe in a
| circular motion over the burn spots.  Depending on how bad they are,
| some will disappear while other will stay (like from the breaking
| positions).  But again, the best way to keep your cloth looking nice is
| to reduce the amount of elevation on your cue stick (it probably wont
| hurt your game either :) so that the balls are not being forced into the
| cloth off the tip as much.
|
| Deno J. Andrews
|
| >
| > Deno, while we're on the subject of care and feeding of your Gorina....
I
| > love my Basalt but it sure shows burn marks.  I s there a way to
minimize/
| > lighten them?  I tried the damp towel wipe down but it didn't make much
| > difference.  TIA
| >
| > Mark0

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Deno J. Andrew » Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:26:50

Maybe they stopped dyeing the cloth like they used to; Gorina hasn't.

Deno J. Andrews

Quote:


> > Someone
> > else reported that water will fade the cloth- that is not really true
> > with the nicer cloths like Granito and Simonis.

> Well, when we were researching how to clean the cloth, Simonis told us
> that water will fade the cloth and to NEVER put water on the cloth.

> --
> Frank G
> Frank-at-Quick-Clean.com
> Clean your pool table cloth with our unique product.
> www.quick-clean.com

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Deno J. Andrew » Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:28:18

You can use a break pad (a small piece of cloth from which to break) to
help eliminate that problem.  But you really must get rid of the friend
who has to elevate his cue so much ;)
Deno
Quote:

> Thanks.  The spots are primarily along the break areas but some are in the
> playing field from draw shots.  The worst ones are from a friend who
> *really* must elevate his cue (they look almost yellow).

> -MArk0



> | Quit elevating your cue!  Take another piece of cloth (if you have any
> | extra- if not, email me and I will grab a piece from my closet and send
> | it to you) and wrap it around a small block of wood...then wipe in a
> | circular motion over the burn spots.  Depending on how bad they are,
> | some will disappear while other will stay (like from the breaking
> | positions).  But again, the best way to keep your cloth looking nice is
> | to reduce the amount of elevation on your cue stick (it probably wont
> | hurt your game either :) so that the balls are not being forced into the
> | cloth off the tip as much.
> |
> | Deno J. Andrews
> |

> | >
> | > Deno, while we're on the subject of care and feeding of your Gorina....
> I
> | > love my Basalt but it sure shows burn marks.  I s there a way to
> minimize/
> | > lighten them?  I tried the damp towel wipe down but it didn't make much
> | > difference.  TIA
> | >
> | > Mark0

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by PoolCar » Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:47:50

Quote:
>Subject: Re: Cloth question / problem

>Try coating the entire surface with a fine mist of distilled water. Then
>brush
>it lgithly and mist it again. Allow it to dry completely. It should look like
>new.

I've done this using windex and it works real well.  Just use a clean rag,
(t-shirt), to wipe the table same as if  you were brushing it.

Jim Halladay

 
 
 

Cloth question / problem

Post by Trevor Justine » Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:56:29

On my gorina T2000 (installed Jan 2002) every 6-8 weeks I vacuum the table
and then lightly wipe the whole table with a damp cloth, no noticable fading
(put a left over piece of cloth on the table to check, and no streaks)  Some
will think this is horrible but I use a hand held vac with a beater bar and
it picks up chalk dust and lint like nobody's business.

Trevor


Quote:
> >Subject: Re: Cloth question / problem

> >Try coating the entire surface with a fine mist of distilled water. Then
> >brush
> >it lgithly and mist it again. Allow it to dry completely. It should look
like
> >new.

> I've done this using windex and it works real well.  Just use a clean rag,
> (t-shirt), to wipe the table same as if  you were brushing it.

> Jim Halladay