Missing shots a little off straight....

Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by daniz2pa » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00


when I am shooting a shot that is slightly off straight, and use
quite a lot of backspin, It seems that the obect ball always
goes left of the pocket.  This only happens when it is a
relatively long shot, and when I use backspin.  Apart from that
I would make this shot quite often.  Is the backspin causing
this?.  To me it seems like it just shouldn't happen, I'm quite
certain I'm hittin it at the right angle (not 90 degreees!).
Is there a physical explanation to this problem or is it just
me.  Try it yourself!
Thankyou,
Danny

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Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by Wojo » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

Is the ball being over cut or under cut?  You said the ball goes to the
"left of the pocket" but didn't say which pocket.  I believe (and this may
be debatable) that if you use a lot of draw on the cue ball, you in turn put
follow on the OB.  I can't imagine that would make a significant difference,
but it may make the OB "undercut" a little bit.  More likely, you're over
cutting as a result of putting just a little english on the QB and throwing
the OB.

Ken



Quote:
> when I am shooting a shot that is slightly off straight, and use
> quite a lot of backspin, It seems that the obect ball always
> goes left of the pocket.  This only happens when it is a
> relatively long shot, and when I use backspin.  Apart from that
> I would make this shot quite often.  Is the backspin causing
> this?.  To me it seems like it just shouldn't happen, I'm quite
> certain I'm hittin it at the right angle (not 90 degreees!).
> Is there a physical explanation to this problem or is it just
> me.  Try it yourself!
> Thankyou,
> Danny

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Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by Patrick Johnso » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> it seems that i loose a lot of accuracy
> when i shoot hard in general.

One possible reason for this is that your grip is too far forward on
the wrap.  This can cause your stroke to swerve on harder shots as
your forearm moves past vertical.  Try moving your grip farther back
(and maybe bending your bridge arm a little to compensate), so that
you're striking the cue ball at the bottom of your stroke.

Pat Johnson
Chicago

 
 
 

Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by Patrick Johnso » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> ...(and maybe bending your bridge arm a little to compensate)

My fingers were moving faster than my brain (not all that difficult).
This adjustment wouldn't apply here.

Pat Johnson
Chicago

 
 
 

Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by Dick Moec » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

I struggled with long straight-in shots for years while I could make a long
cut-shot with the best of them ....... well, maybe not the best, but the next
bunch. I experimented a few years ago and concluded the reason I was missing
straight-in shots was English has greater throw on the object ball when hit
straight on. I was coming up on my shots and not hitting the ball square. I was
doing the same thing on cut shots, but it didn't create systemic misses.

To correct the problem, I did two things and my long shots are no longer a
problem. I keep my chin on the stick and studder stroke before my final stroke.
If you concentrate on having your chin on the stick, you won't come up. If you
studder stroke, you have no choice but to keep your eyes on the object ball
that last instant. It took a summer before both became natural. If you can only
concentrate on one, I would suggest the chin thing. It works!
*** Moecia, fka poolcue
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Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by daniz2pa » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for the responses.  I'm try all of these things!
Danny

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Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by Patrick Johnso » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> ...studder stroke...

What's that?  The hesitation/pause thing?

Pat Johnson
Chicago

 
 
 

Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by nhoo » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>I experimented a few years ago and concluded the reason I was missing
>straight-in shots was English has greater throw on the object ball when hit
>straight on.

That's what I've been fussing about in another thread. I do a lot of practicing
on full diagonal long straight shots with the cueball in the center of the
table. The slightest cue offset, left or right from a vertical centerline is a
sure miss.

Nat

 
 
 

Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by DCB » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

I just discovered "throw" today...  I set up a couple of balls pointed a few
inches to the left or right of the pocket and froze them, or didn't freeze
them but hit them straight at their point of aim using english opposite
where I wanted the object ball to go.  NEAT.  I was able to correct by
several inches across the span of the table just using that concept.
I wish I knew about this before...



Quote:
> when I am shooting a shot that is slightly off straight, and use
> quite a lot of backspin, It seems that the obect ball always
> goes left of the pocket.  This only happens when it is a
> relatively long shot, and when I use backspin.  Apart from that
> I would make this shot quite often.  Is the backspin causing
> this?.  To me it seems like it just shouldn't happen, I'm quite
> certain I'm hittin it at the right angle (not 90 degreees!).
> Is there a physical explanation to this problem or is it just
> me.  Try it yourself!
> Thankyou,
> Danny

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Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by Ron Shepa » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>That's what I've been fussing about in another thread. I do a lot of
practicing
>on full diagonal long straight shots with the cueball in the center of the
>table. The slightest cue offset, left or right from a vertical centerline
>is a
>sure miss.

This is especially true for stun shots.  As a practical matter, you can
eliminate most of this sensitivity by avoiding stun shots.  Always try to make
the cue ball draw back or follow forward a little bit after the collision.  See
figure 4.4 in APAPP to see why this happens.

$.02 -Ron Shepard

 
 
 

Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by perfectp.. » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Not correct.
 
 
 

Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by perfectp.. » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Not the problem.
 
 
 

Missing shots a little off straight....

Post by perfectp.. » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

No.