Best way to cut rubber?

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by GregUbb » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 06:02:10


We got some new SuperSpeed bumpers in for some Gold Crown
tables, and are trying to learn how to do it ourselves.
But we're having a heck of a time trying to figure out a
precise and reliable way of cutting the ends of the ***
at the correct angles (which look to be 38 deg and 75 deg).

How do professional installers do it?  Is there some custom
miter box or similar tool you can buy somewhere to make this
job easy?  Or do people build their own custom miter box?
What cutting tool works best for the ***?

Any suggestions from someone who's done this would be much
appreciated!  Also, any recommendations on the best books for
recovering, leveling, etc. 9' pool-hall pool tables...

Greg Ubben

 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by Deno J. Andrew » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 07:07:23

First, draw the exact line you want to cut on the ***.  Draw the line on
all sides.  Next, slightly stretch the *** and have people hold each
side.  Next, use a new razor blade and start at the nose of the *** (most
important to be accurate, so start at the nose) and push the razor through
the ***.  It will cut like butter, and don't worry about the parts you
have just cut through...they will be pulling away from the cutting seam,
which is why you stretch the ***, so you don't have anything in your way.
Be careful to stay on the right path.  Don't go to fast or else you may lose
the line.  Remember, the cut doesn't have to be perfectly flat, for that is
what the facing is for.  But be as cautious as possible.  And use a new
razor for each incision.  One cut will dull the razor enough to make it a
pain on the next cut.  Good luck.
Deno J. Andrews


Quote:
> We got some new SuperSpeed bumpers in for some Gold Crown
> tables, and are trying to learn how to do it ourselves.
> But we're having a heck of a time trying to figure out a
> precise and reliable way of cutting the ends of the ***
> at the correct angles (which look to be 38 deg and 75 deg).

> How do professional installers do it?  Is there some custom
> miter box or similar tool you can buy somewhere to make this
> job easy?  Or do people build their own custom miter box?
> What cutting tool works best for the ***?

> Any suggestions from someone who's done this would be much
> appreciated!  Also, any recommendations on the best books for
> recovering, leveling, etc. 9' pool-hall pool tables...

> Greg Ubben


 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by Jim Wyan » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 07:56:33

Hmmmm.  I was thinking build a wooden jig to hold the *** firmly, then
just take a nice, slow pass with a high quality miter (chop) saw.  If the
*** is held firmly in the jig, you should be able to get very precise
angles with very flat faces.  Is the *** too unpredictable for a power
miter saw?

--Jim

On 9/6/03 6:07 PM, in article

Quote:

> First, draw the exact line you want to cut on the ***.  Draw the line on
> all sides.  Next, slightly stretch the *** and have people hold each
> side.  Next, use a new razor blade and start at the nose of the *** (most
> important to be accurate, so start at the nose) and push the razor through
> the ***.  It will cut like butter, and don't worry about the parts you
> have just cut through...they will be pulling away from the cutting seam,
> which is why you stretch the ***, so you don't have anything in your way.
> Be careful to stay on the right path.  Don't go to fast or else you may lose
> the line.  Remember, the cut doesn't have to be perfectly flat, for that is
> what the facing is for.  But be as cautious as possible.  And use a new
> razor for each incision.  One cut will dull the razor enough to make it a
> pain on the next cut.  Good luck.
> Deno J. Andrews



>> We got some new SuperSpeed bumpers in for some Gold Crown
>> tables, and are trying to learn how to do it ourselves.
>> But we're having a heck of a time trying to figure out a
>> precise and reliable way of cutting the ends of the ***
>> at the correct angles (which look to be 38 deg and 75 deg).

>> How do professional installers do it?  Is there some custom
>> miter box or similar tool you can buy somewhere to make this
>> job easy?  Or do people build their own custom miter box?
>> What cutting tool works best for the ***?

>> Any suggestions from someone who's done this would be much
>> appreciated!  Also, any recommendations on the best books for
>> recovering, leveling, etc. 9' pool-hall pool tables...

>> Greg Ubben


 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by Roger Orsula » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 08:28:05

be sure to let us know ;-)


Quote:
> Hmmmm.  I was thinking build a wooden jig to hold the *** firmly, then
> just take a nice, slow pass with a high quality miter (chop) saw.  If the
> *** is held firmly in the jig, you should be able to get very precise
> angles with very flat faces.  Is the *** too unpredictable for a power
> miter saw?

> --Jim



> >> We got some new SuperSpeed bumpers in for some Gold Crown
> >> tables, and are trying to learn how to do it ourselves.

 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by Edwin Rey » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 11:36:08


Quote:
> First, draw the exact line you want to cut on the ***.  Draw the line on
> all sides.  Next, slightly stretch the *** > Deno J. Andrews

I guess I "chicken out" when it comes to this stretch the *** and
cut on the line part.  I usally stretch and cut 1/32" away from the
finish cut line before doing the cut on the line as *** will be in
its relaxed form by then and won't be grabbing the blade with it now
having a thinner overhang.  Check the WPA website for equipment specs,
as the craftsman's rule go " measure twice and cut once".
Quote:



> > We got some new SuperSpeed bumpers in for some Gold Crown
> > tables, and are trying to learn how to do it ourselves.
> > But we're having a heck of a time trying to figure out a
> > precise and reliable way of cutting the ends of the ***
> > at the correct angles (which look to be 38 deg and 75 deg).

> > How do professional installers do it?  Is there some custom
> > miter box or similar tool you can buy somewhere to make this
> > job easy?  Or do people build their own custom miter box?
> > What cutting tool works best for the ***?

> > Any suggestions from someone who's done this would be much
> > appreciated!  Also, any recommendations on the best books for
> > recovering, leveling, etc. 9' pool-hall pool tables...

> > Greg Ubben

 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by dalecu » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:47:11

old Indian trick

dip the razor blade in water and keep it wet

HTH
Dale

Quote:

>First, draw the exact line you want to cut on the ***.  Draw the line on
>all sides.  Next, slightly stretch the *** and have people hold each
>side.  Next, use a new razor blade and start at the nose of the ***
(most
>important to be accurate, so start at the nose) and push the razor through
>the ***.  It will cut like butter, and don't worry about the parts you
>have just cut through...they will be pulling away from the cutting seam,
>which is why you stretch the ***, so you don't have anything in your
way.
>Be careful to stay on the right path.  Don't go to fast or else you may
lose
>the line.  Remember, the cut doesn't have to be perfectly flat, for that is
>what the facing is for.  But be as cautious as possible.  And use a new
>razor for each incision.  One cut will dull the razor enough to make it a
>pain on the next cut.  Good luck.
>Deno J. Andrews



>> We got some new SuperSpeed bumpers in for some Gold Crown
>> tables, and are trying to learn how to do it ourselves.
>> But we're having a heck of a time trying to figure out a
>> precise and reliable way of cutting the ends of the ***
>> at the correct angles (which look to be 38 deg and 75 deg).

>> How do professional installers do it?  Is there some custom
>> miter box or similar tool you can buy somewhere to make this
>> job easy?  Or do people build their own custom miter box?
>> What cutting tool works best for the ***?

>> Any suggestions from someone who's done this would be much
>> appreciated!  Also, any recommendations on the best books for
>> recovering, leveling, etc. 9' pool-hall pool tables...

>> Greg Ubben

 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by Jimbo » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 15:23:16

Dale saz: >old Indian trick

Quote:

>dip the razor blade in water and keep it wet

How dumb are you Dale???

Jim <---Knows Indians didn't have pool tables, they played 3C

 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by Kent,W » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:24:07


Quote:
> Dale saz: >old Indian trick

> >dip the razor blade in water and keep it wet

> How dumb are you Dale???

> Jim <---Knows Indians didn't have pool tables, they played 3C

They also don't have beards or many *** trees on the reservation. <grin>
 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by Deno J. Andrew » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:39:47

The *** will go crazy.  The best way to cut *** is with a very very
sharp blade and a slow speed.
Deno


Quote:
> Hmmmm.  I was thinking build a wooden jig to hold the *** firmly, then
> just take a nice, slow pass with a high quality miter (chop) saw.  If the
> *** is held firmly in the jig, you should be able to get very precise
> angles with very flat faces.  Is the *** too unpredictable for a power
> miter saw?

> --Jim

> On 9/6/03 6:07 PM, in article


> > First, draw the exact line you want to cut on the ***.  Draw the line
on
> > all sides.  Next, slightly stretch the *** and have people hold each
> > side.  Next, use a new razor blade and start at the nose of the ***
(most
> > important to be accurate, so start at the nose) and push the razor
through
> > the ***.  It will cut like butter, and don't worry about the parts
you
> > have just cut through...they will be pulling away from the cutting seam,
> > which is why you stretch the ***, so you don't have anything in your
way.
> > Be careful to stay on the right path.  Don't go to fast or else you may
lose
> > the line.  Remember, the cut doesn't have to be perfectly flat, for that
is
> > what the facing is for.  But be as cautious as possible.  And use a new
> > razor for each incision.  One cut will dull the razor enough to make it
a
> > pain on the next cut.  Good luck.
> > Deno J. Andrews



> >> We got some new SuperSpeed bumpers in for some Gold Crown
> >> tables, and are trying to learn how to do it ourselves.
> >> But we're having a heck of a time trying to figure out a
> >> precise and reliable way of cutting the ends of the ***
> >> at the correct angles (which look to be 38 deg and 75 deg).

> >> How do professional installers do it?  Is there some custom
> >> miter box or similar tool you can buy somewhere to make this
> >> job easy?  Or do people build their own custom miter box?
> >> What cutting tool works best for the ***?

> >> Any suggestions from someone who's done this would be much
> >> appreciated!  Also, any recommendations on the best books for
> >> recovering, leveling, etc. 9' pool-hall pool tables...

> >> Greg Ubben

 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by PoolCar » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 22:07:26

You need a very sharp knife!  I use a 12" serrated knife.  I glue the *** to
the rail.  When it is dry, I put the rail in a vise. Using a straight edge and
a pen, I mark a line on the front side of the *** for the cut by lining the
straight edge at eye level along the face.  For the back side you can line up
your front side line to the face with the straight edge. The only way to get a
smooth straight cut is to make the cut with one smooth stroke of the knife.  In
other words you need to go through the *** without having to make two cuts.
With a little practice, no wait.  With a lot of practice it will get easier!
Good Luck

Jim Halladay
Billiarddoc.com

Quote:
>Subject: Best way to cut ***?

>Date: 9/6/03 4:02 PM Central Daylight Time
>We got some new SuperSpeed bumpers in for some Gold Crown
>tables, and are trying to learn how to do it ourselves.
>But we're having a heck of a time trying to figure out a
>precise and reliable way of cutting the ends of the ***
>at the correct angles (which look to be 38 deg and 75 deg).

>How do professional installers do it?  Is there some custom
>miter box or similar tool you can buy somewhere to make this
>job easy?  Or do people build their own custom miter box?
>What cutting tool works best for the ***?

>Any suggestions from someone who's done this would be much
>appreciated!  Also, any recommendations on the best books for
>recovering, leveling, etc. 9' pool-hall pool tables...

>Greg Ubben

 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by GregUbb » Tue, 09 Sep 2003 04:55:51

Thanks Deno, Jim and others.
This should put us on the right track!

Greg

 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by DH Ma » Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:45:58

I've tried all of the methods mentioned here and have had good success
with a couple.
In recent years I've used an old tip t*** knife from years ago.
The blade is about four inches long. I sharpen it well and then heat
it with a torch. Works very well for me.
Tom
 
 
 

Best way to cut rubber?

Post by Player makec » Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:39:23

Quote:

> We got some new SuperSpeed bumpers in for some Gold Crown
> tables, and are trying to learn how to do it ourselves.
> But we're having a heck of a time trying to figure out a
> precise and reliable way of cutting the ends of the ***
> at the correct angles (which look to be 38 deg and 75 deg).

> How do professional installers do it?  Is there some custom
> miter box or similar tool you can buy somewhere to make this
> job easy?  Or do people build their own custom miter box?
> What cutting tool works best for the ***?

> Any suggestions from someone who's done this would be much
> appreciated!  Also, any recommendations on the best books for
> recovering, leveling, etc. 9' pool-hall pool tables...

> Greg Ubben

 I use a Mr. Twister electric filet knife with 8" blades , mark angle
on top of *** and start cut from inside of pocket or the back of
*** , I use a see - saw motion with the blade as it cuts
maintaining a flat angle so my face comes out sharp and flat . If you
twist blade or stretch *** your face will come out uneven or off
angle .The piece that is being cut off can be pulled gently away from
blade to reduce friction for smoother cut , this is tricky as you can
move the cut if not careful , hard to put back once you've cut. I used
a regular 8" filet knife before I got the Mr. Twister , must be very
sharp whatever you use !!!