Gaia stat

Gaia stat

Post by Robbie Gilli » Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:32:43


I remember seeing some ad for Gaia that said 1 game of Ultimate
equalled running something like 15 K.  Something ridiculous like that.
 Anyone know how this stat was compiled or have any research about the
topic?  Doing a speech on Ultimate becoming a trial Olympic sport, so
any info on that would be helpful, but specifically the Gaia stat.
Thanks
 
 
 

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Post by DaytonDiscKi » Fri, 19 Apr 2002 00:18:05

I've seen that stat.  I've always assumed that the distance given (15k
or whatever) is the distance that the cumulative teams runs in a game.
 If you divide the number given by Gaia by 7, I think it ends up a
pretty reasonable and accurate figure.  I think that's the deal.  If
the number IS 15k, ~ 2k per person seems about right.

 
 
 

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Post by Supere » Fri, 19 Apr 2002 06:59:14

I've actually read that, disregarding zone where some players run a
lot more and some a lot less, the average ultimate player, playing a
whole game, will run close to 5k (3 miles) But that's just what I've
read

 
 
 

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Post by Scott Salvat » Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:30:44

someone actually measured this once, and it came out close to 10K in a
blowout.  i think 15K is reasonable for a long, tough game.


Quote:
> I've actually read that, disregarding zone where some players run a
> lot more and some a lot less, the average ultimate player, playing a
> whole game, will run close to 5k (3 miles) But that's just what I've
> read

 
 
 

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Post by Becc » Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:36:14

Quote:

> I've seen that stat.  I've always assumed that the distance given (15k
> or whatever) is the distance that the cumulative teams runs in a game.
>  If you divide the number given by Gaia by 7, I think it ends up a
> pretty reasonable and accurate figure.  I think that's the deal.  If
> the number IS 15k, ~ 2k per person seems about right.

Ahhhh...that makes sense.

When Felice, the amazing orange skirted marathoner, was training she
always counted every 2 games as one mile.  So a four game Sunday was
two miles.  And six games on Saturday was three.

This seems about right to me.

Of course, this variable depending on conditions...but ya'll know what
I mean.

 
 
 

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Post by Ultimate Life Magazi » Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:36:57

The way I always read this was as follows, and I heard a game of Ulty
was equalled to a 10k run:

Based on time I think.

1 game = 1:30 minutes
1 10k run = 45 minutes
1 player plays "half" the game usually (especially if you're a
line-hog)

Therefore playing-time equals 45-minutes which inturn equals 10km
approx.

Dave :)

Quote:

> I've seen that stat.  I've always assumed that the distance given (15k
> or whatever) is the distance that the cumulative teams runs in a game.
>  If you divide the number given by Gaia by 7, I think it ends up a
> pretty reasonable and accurate figure.  I think that's the deal.  If
> the number IS 15k, ~ 2k per person seems about right.

 
 
 

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Post by La Malda » Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:40:11



Quote:
> The way I always read this was as follows, and I heard a game of Ulty
> was equalled to a 10k run:

> Based on time I think.

> 1 game = 1:30 minutes
> 1 10k run = 45 minutes
> 1 player plays "half" the game usually (especially if you're a
> line-hog)

> Therefore playing-time equals 45-minutes which inturn equals 10km
> approx.
> seems about right.

This is a buncha hooey.  Even if you play half the game, you spend a good
deal of time moving slower than at a 45min 10k pace.  This is a stat people
probably say to make themselves feel better about themselves. (handlers -
don't you dare buy into this, you lazy backfield players know who you are.)

La Maldad

 
 
 

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Post by mike cenz » Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:23:18

alright... lets make a few assumptions and guess...

first, say the average ultimate player plays in 10 points in a game.
(game to 15, final score say 15-9.)
say we have 1 turn a point. (a decidedly average game of ultimate.)
so thats 20 possesions with about a 160 yards of running/jogging a
possesion=
3200 yards about 3 K.

And in conclusion, i suggest you show above and beyond 2000 instead of
giving a speech.

and it looks like I sentenced another kitten to death.

mike

Quote:

> I've actually read that, disregarding zone where some players run a
> lot more and some a lot less, the average ultimate player, playing a
> whole game, will run close to 5k (3 miles) But that's just what I've
> read

 
 
 

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Post by Scott Salvat » Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:33:51

160 yards running per point?  you must be a handler.


Quote:
> alright... lets make a few assumptions and guess...

> first, say the average ultimate player plays in 10 points in a game.
> (game to 15, final score say 15-9.)
> say we have 1 turn a point. (a decidedly average game of ultimate.)
> so thats 20 possesions with about a 160 yards of running/jogging a
> possesion=
> 3200 yards about 3 K.

> And in conclusion, i suggest you show above and beyond 2000 instead of
> giving a speech.

> and it looks like I sentenced another kitten to death.

> mike




- Show quoted text -

Quote:
> > I've actually read that, disregarding zone where some players run a
> > lot more and some a lot less, the average ultimate player, playing a
> > whole game, will run close to 5k (3 miles) But that's just what I've
> > read

 
 
 

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Post by Becc » Sat, 20 Apr 2002 00:20:04

Quote:



> > The way I always read this was as follows, and I heard a game of Ulty
> > was equalled to a 10k run:

> > Based on time I think.

> > 1 game = 1:30 minutes
> > 1 10k run = 45 minutes
> > 1 player plays "half" the game usually (especially if you're a
> > line-hog)

> > Therefore playing-time equals 45-minutes which inturn equals 10km
> > approx.
> > seems about right.

> This is a buncha hooey.  Even if you play half the game, you spend a good
> deal of time moving slower than at a 45min 10k pace.  This is a stat people
> probably say to make themselves feel better about themselves. (handlers -
> don't you dare buy into this, you lazy backfield players know who you are.)

> La Maldad

I agree...I think you are deluding yourself if you are telling
yourself you are running 10k a game.  You truly think you are putting
in 6 miles every single game?  Come on!  Go out and run a 10k.  Come
back and tell me if that hurts more than half a game of Ultimate.  I
know for me a 10K is a whole lot tougher than a game of Ultimate.

People hang out in the stack.  People walk back.  You aren't always
cutting (unless you are Felice, in the amazing orange miniskirt).
Even if you cut all the time, it's pretty unlikely you are guarding
someone who cuts all the time.

I say no more than a mile per game unless you are a long guarding a
long on a team with incredibly horrible throws/catches.  And maybe if
you are in the Cup...but even then, my guess is just about a mile.

 
 
 

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Post by ski » Sat, 20 Apr 2002 00:27:27

Here is a personal stat for you. I wore a heart rate monitor for
Saturday pool play of the Duluth indoor tournament last winter. My
monitor records heart rate every 5 seconds. Over the course of 4 hours
of pool play my average heart rate, for the entire four hours, was
153! That was for four games straight and playing 70% of the points.
This average heart rate is nearly the same average that I had after
running Grandma's marathon! Granted, I don't honestly think that I ran
a marathon during the tournament, but it is still a pretty high
average heart rate to have for 4 hours, don't you think?

BTW - I am a handler. Keep calling me & my fellow handlers lazy and we
won't throw to you. So just keep running - you'll never be open... :)

Quote:
> This is a buncha hooey.  Even if you play half the game, you spend a good
> deal of time moving slower than at a 45min 10k pace.  This is a stat people
> probably say to make themselves feel better about themselves. (handlers -
> don't you dare buy into this, you lazy backfield players know who you are.)

> La Maldad

 
 
 

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Post by leonar » Sat, 20 Apr 2002 03:05:34

Quote:

> and it looks like I sentenced another kitten to death.

> mike

wow you can type and add and post to RSD and ***er off all at once?!
that's remarkable.

oops, I just realized the above activities are equivalent. i get it
now.

 
 
 

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Post by T » Sat, 20 Apr 2002 05:58:50

Quote:

> I've seen that stat.  I've always assumed that the distance given (15k
> or whatever) is the distance that the cumulative teams runs in a game.
>  If you divide the number given by Gaia by 7, I think it ends up a
> pretty reasonable and accurate figure.  I think that's the deal.  If
> the number IS 15k, ~ 2k per person seems about right.

Kenny

If you only run 2k in a game, I don't know if I really want to play
with you at Kudzu and the other BRiC tourneys.

With all of your turnovers at BOB III, maybe you ran 2k in the sand...

Ty

 
 
 

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Post by Becc » Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:37:37

Dude...that's because Ultimate is a sprint/stop type of sport...or
least it should be if you are playing it right.  You should have a
high average heart rate because you should be burning ass to the disc
(which jacks your heart rate up).

But you should only be sprinting for 50...oh wait...you're a
handler...25 yards.  Your heart rate remains up even when you stop
because your body needs a set amount of recovery time before your
heart rate will drop back down.

In a marathon, your heart rate rises to that level and stays there
consistently because you are putting your body on a fairly consistent
level of stress.

So it does make sense that you sprinting and stopping would give
stress your heart like running a marathon does...

But just because your heart is being stressed...doesn't mean you are
running 6 ***ing miles a game.

If I go watch Scream or even scarier, a *NSYNC concert and my heart is
racing for two hours that doesn't mean I ran a half-marathon.

Just clarifying

~b

PS...on a side note...were the two events (the Marathon and the game)
close together (within 1 or 2 weeks max. of each other)?  Because that
would make that data far more relevant...otherwise, levels of fitness
have a huge effect on your working heart rate.

And it only takes three days of not training at the same
level/intensity to lose 33% of your cardio performance (ability to do
an activity at a high intensity with a lesser rise in heart rate and
quicker recovery time).

Quote:
> Here is a personal stat for you. I wore a heart rate monitor for
> Saturday pool play of the Duluth indoor tournament last winter. My
> monitor records heart rate every 5 seconds. Over the course of 4 hours
> of pool play my average heart rate, for the entire four hours, was
> 153! That was for four games straight and playing 70% of the points.
> This average heart rate is nearly the same average that I had after
> running Grandma's marathon! Granted, I don't honestly think that I ran
> a marathon during the tournament, but it is still a pretty high
> average heart rate to have for 4 hours, don't you think?

> BTW - I am a handler. Keep calling me & my fellow handlers lazy and we
> won't throw to you. So just keep running - you'll never be open... :)

> > This is a buncha hooey.  Even if you play half the game, you spend a good
> > deal of time moving slower than at a 45min 10k pace.  This is a stat people
> > probably say to make themselves feel better about themselves. (handlers -
> > don't you dare buy into this, you lazy backfield players know who you are.)

> > La Maldad

 
 
 

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Post by J » Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:36:20

Quote:

> BTW - I am a handler. Keep calling me & my fellow handlers lazy and we
> won't throw to you. So just keep running - you'll never be open... :)

Unless you're dressed like Mr. Peanut.  Sorry kitty.