Mr Miyata's handle is on its last legs already

Mr Miyata's handle is on its last legs already

Post by phil » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 06:20:10


Hmmm. Dunno whether it was a bit shoddy to start with or if I've just
been giving it a lot of grief (probably) but my new miyata seat's handle
is splitting. There's a crack slowly growing underneath, round the
inside; it looks like given a week or two there'll just be a small
plastic bit around the three bolts and nothing else...

So what can I do about it? Can you get replacement handles? I'll have a
look to see if I can do something to stop the crack growing, but
something more permanent (and reliable) would be nice.

Can you get those funky handles in the UK? And are they worth it on a
unicycle I will (when my other one arrives - yeah!) mainly be using just
for showing off and tricks and the like?

Ta muchly

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Post by leow » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 20:38:13

Phil,

If the crack is around the bolts, replace the washers with as ones that
are as wide as possible -  i.e large-disc small-hole.

Leo White

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Post by U-Tur » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 21:34:13

Looks like they are all doing that  (mine too).  I think that
unicycle.com and Miyata have a big PR and customer relations job ahead
of them.  Miyata's good reputation was based in a major way on their
seat; and uni.com sells a lot of Miyata seats.  These are all
manufacturing defects and should be covered under warranty.  uni.com is
in the process of replacing my handle under warranty; but the
replacement is a handle from the same batch so it won't take long to
break like the original.  There are aftermarket handles coming out but
one of them is $75, which is excessively high IMHO.

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Post by Doug Masse » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 23:33:48


Quote:

> Looks like they are all doing that  (mine too).

I'll step in here since Harper is obviously napping.  Pictures, Please!

Although there may be a processing problem with the Miyata seats, the
material used was probably chosen for its impact resistance and low cost.
Since they have the molds, it should be rather easy for them to upgrade the
material.  Maybe there could be a choice between two materials when ordering
(Standard or High Performance).

I don't push the equipment to the limit like many of you guys (and gals).
But, as the equipment gets pushed harder and harder in muni, trials, etc.
each component gets upgraded to match its expected performance.  Maybe it's
time for Miyata to upgrade its seat or get left behind.

I'll be getting a CF seat at some point just because its CF and the holes
can be put where I want them without messing with the ribs underneath.

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Post by jagu » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 00:00:19

another problem i have with the "new" Miyata seats is that since they
were made in China and out of cheaper material the cost sould be
less,but no....the price is still the same.

i wonder if Miyata even mentioned the "made in China"aspect when they
ordered 1500 of them?

with the new Velo coming out soon,i think Miyata's days are numbered.

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Post by phil » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 02:25:53

Quote:
> *I'll step in here since Harper is obviously napping.  Pictures,
> Please!*

Pictures? You want pictures? Would you like the moon on a stick with
that as well?

[image: http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~pah117/images/miyata-crack.jpg]

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Post by Doug Masse » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 02:56:11


Quote:

> > *I'll step in here since Harper is obviously napping.  Pictures,
> > Please!*

> Pictures? You want pictures? Would you like the moon on a stick with
> that as well?

No, just fries.

Quote:
> [image: http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~pah117/images/miyata-crack.jpg]

> Phil, just me

I went out and looked at that area on my seat.  It looks like Miyata needs
to make a larger radius in that area.  Its quite a stress riser with that
small radius when the handle is pulled up.  Thanx for the pic.

Doug

 
 
 

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Post by unirace » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 04:03:48

hahahhahahha    my handle craked the EXACT same way just my handle is
cracked farther. ill see if i can get a pic up while using my friends
computer.

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Post by unirace » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 04:04:33

sorry if the pic is a little BIG.  hehehe.

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Post by Drewnicycl » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 04:38:35

Yup, mine cracked the same way.  I kept riding with it and tore the
bleeping thing in two.  
My advice is to stop riding until the seat is repaired cut the handle
off and use it as a freestyle seat.
As well the nut on the rear bumper pulled through the plastic and I now
have a useless 2 month old Miyata seat.:mad:

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Post by Klaas B » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:15:33

On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:00:19 -0500, jagur

Quote:

>with the new Velo coming out soon,i think Miyata's days are numbered.

I'm in the process of ordering my new MUni (Max Traction) from
unicycle.uk.com. Just in time all these posts pop up about the new
Miyata quality standard. So I'll just order without seat. Uh? - no,
not that, I'll use my Semcycle seat until the Velo comes out.

Anyone knows when that would be??

Klaas Bil

 
 
 

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Post by harpe » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:35:36

Those are beautiful photos. They both make what you're talking about
crystal clear. Thanks.

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Post by Tom Hol » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:39:57


)

)>
)> Looks like they are all doing that  (mine too).
)
)I'll step in here since Harper is obviously napping.  Pictures, Please!

<http://www.unicyclist.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album66>.

I bought two seats at the same time, shortly after the new batch
became available.  Kobe is used for basketball, toodling around
campus, and occasional tricky stuff.  La Machine is for longer
distances and occasional MUni.  But the crack really doesn't seem
significantly related to the use; Kobe gets used about 5 days a week,
La Machine about 2, so Kobe's crack is worse, but they are developing
in exactly the same way.

John Drummond is sending me replacements, but like others, I expect
they'll develop the same problem.  I may wind up going to a Reeder
handle, at least for La Machine.  (Anyone ever play basketball with
the Reeder?  Does it tend to gouge the shins of opponents?  Is this
a feature?)

)I don't push the equipment to the limit like many of you guys (and gals).
)But, as the equipment gets pushed harder and harder in muni, trials, etc.
)each component gets upgraded to match its expected performance.  Maybe it's
)time for Miyata to upgrade its seat or get left behind.

The original Miyata seat used on Kobe before the air-seat upgrade has taken
a lot more abuse than the cracked seat, and that handle has shown no signs
of cracking.  The plastic seat base is cracked, but not near the handle,
and it's still ridable and seeing weekly use.

)I'll be getting a CF seat at some point just because its CF and the holes
)can be put where I want them without messing with the ribs underneath.

But that won't help you with the handle.
 -Tom