Tire Widths Smaller Than Written on Tire

Tire Widths Smaller Than Written on Tire

Post by Don Ta » Thu, 10 May 2001 20:55:14


I'm finding that after you mount a new tire and check the width, it's a lot
smaller than the width they write on the sidewall. I feel a little cheated. If
you pay for a 2.6" wide tire I think you should get a 2.6" tire. I purchased a
Kenda Kollosal 24x2.6", mounted it on a 24x1" wide rim with a standard 24x2.1"
inner tube, and the tire measures at a little under 2.5" wide.

I understand this happens in women's fashions, but it does not happen often
with guy's stuff.

Is there something I'm missing here? Maybe they mount the tire on a certain
size rim with a certain size inner tube and if you do all that then you get the right
width? Or does it have to do with temperature, where the hotter the air is the
wider the tire? Is there some standard that tire manufacturers use when stating
their specifications?

Is there some shrinkage that occurs from the manufacturer to when I receive the
tire?

P.S. Does anyone know if Kenda has a web site? I can't find it.

Don Tai
Don_TaiATyahooDOTcoDOTuk but I live in Toronto

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Post by Jeff Lutk » Thu, 10 May 2001 22:17:55

Have you ever measured a two by four?  Weighed a quarter pounder?

Wood is measured before drying, beef before cooking... I would guess something similar takes place with tires.


Quote:

>I'm finding that after you mount a new tire and check the width, it's a lot
>smaller than the width they write on the sidewall. I feel a little cheated. If
>you pay for a 2.6" wide tire I think you should get a 2.6" tire. I purchased a
>Kenda Kollosal 24x2.6", mounted it on a 24x1" wide rim with a standard 24x2.1"
>inner tube, and the tire measures at a little under 2.5" wide.

>I understand this happens in women's fashions, but it does not happen often
>with guy's stuff.

>Is there something I'm missing here? Maybe they mount the tire on a certain
>size rim with a certain size inner tube and if you do all that then you get the right
>width? Or does it have to do with temperature, where the hotter the air is the
>wider the tire? Is there some standard that tire manufacturers use when stating
>their specifications?

>Is there some shrinkage that occurs from the manufacturer to when I receive the
>tire?

>P.S. Does anyone know if Kenda has a web site? I can't find it.

>Don Tai
>Don_TaiATyahooDOTcoDOTuk but I live in Toronto

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Post by Neil Dunl » Thu, 10 May 2001 22:48:05

Hi,

The width measurement for a tyre is it's max width - some tyres bulge with
weight on them while others don't. If you take a look at
http://SportToday.org/'ll see a listing of
Arrow Racing tyres with their stats. In amongst these you have what's called
the "Static Width" which they define as "Static width is the tires true
width left to right cleat. It is measured on a 37 mm rim .750" down from top
of tire (overall diameter) with no weight on bike". This is where your 2.5
will come from I think.

Shameless plug approaching... for future reference when tyre hunting you can

http://SportToday.org/'s not every piece of ***
ever made but there a good few tyres there (no Kenda as yet).

I couldn't find a site for Kenda either. www.MTBReview.com doesn't list them
in the links list and they have pretty much (but not all) any company you
could care to mention.

Cheers,
Neil

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Sent: 09 May 2001 12:55

Subject: Tire Widths Smaller Than Written on Tire

Importance: Low

I'm finding that after you mount a new tire and check the width, it's a lot
smaller than the width they write on the sidewall. I feel a little
cheated. If
you pay for a 2.6" wide tire I think you should get a 2.6" tire. I
purchased a
Kenda Kollosal 24x2.6", mounted it on a 24x1" wide rim with a standard
24x2.1"
inner tube, and the tire measures at a little under 2.5" wide.

I understand this happens in women's fashions, but it does not happen often
with guy's stuff.

Is there something I'm missing here? Maybe they mount the tire on a certain
size rim with a certain size inner tube and if you do all that then you
get the right
width? Or does it have to do with temperature, where the hotter the air is
the
wider the tire? Is there some standard that tire manufacturers use when
stating
their specifications?

Is there some shrinkage that occurs from the manufacturer to when I
receive the
tire?

P.S. Does anyone know if Kenda has a web site? I can't find it.

Don Tai
Don_TaiATyahooDOTcoDOTuk but I live in Toronto

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Post by David Sto » Thu, 10 May 2001 23:49:37

Quote:

>Have you ever measured a two by four?  Weighed a quarter pounder?

>Wood is measured before drying, beef before cooking... I would guess
>something similar takes place with tires.

I once counted the legs of some centipedes and millipedes. Nowhere near
the advertised number.
 
 
 

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Post by Kris Ho » Fri, 11 May 2001 01:38:14

Sometimes this is an advantage!  For example, 3" Gazzolodi tires don't fit in a DM ATU frame, but
Arrow Racing makes a really nice "3"" tire that does fit in the ATU frame.

-Kris.


Quote:
> > I once counted the legs of some centipedes and millipedes.
> > Nowhere near the advertised number.

> And don't get me started about TVs and computer monitors...

> BTW, if you want your bubble burst a little more, try comparing the tire
> diameter with that other number written on the side  :-)

> JF

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Post by John Fo » Fri, 11 May 2001 01:14:09

Quote:
> I once counted the legs of some centipedes and millipedes.
> Nowhere near the advertised number.

And don't get me started about TVs and computer monitors...

BTW, if you want your bubble burst a little more, try comparing the tire
diameter with that other number written on the side  :-)

JF

 
 
 

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Post by Jason Stette » Fri, 11 May 2001 03:48:44


<snip>

Quote:
> I couldn't find a site for Kenda either. www.MTBReview.com doesn't list
them
> in the links list and they have pretty much (but not all) any company you
> could care to mention.

Just in case you were still wondering:

    http://www.kendausa.com

--Jason

 
 
 

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Post by Klaas B » Fri, 11 May 2001 06:57:04


Quote:
>I once counted the legs of some centipedes and millipedes. Nowhere near
>the advertised number.

Adverti***ts are pulling your leg... And then to know that these
animal names translate in Dutch as duizendpoot and miljoenpoot,
respectively (1000-leg and 1,000,000-leg in case you didn't guess).

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Post by Tracey W. Sher » Fri, 11 May 2001 08:18:18

Quote:
>I understand this happens in women's fashions, but it does not happen often
>with guy's stuff.

Watch it! I'll bet there are a lot of female unicyclists who might take
issue with unicycle paraphenalia being called "guy stuff"!  ;)

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Post by Greg Hous » Fri, 11 May 2001 12:55:16

Quote:

> I'm finding that after you mount a new tire and check the width, it's a
> lot smaller than the width they write on the sidewall. I feel a little
> cheated. If you pay for a 2.6" wide tire I think you should get a 2.6"
> tire. I purchased a Kenda Kollosal 24x2.6", mounted it on a 24x1" wide rim
> with a standard 24x2.1" inner tube, and the tire measures at a little
> under 2.5" wide.

I don't know about standards or anything, but I've observed this with my
Nokian Gazzaloddi. It's specced at 24x3 and it's really about 24x2.9 or so.
That's ok by me 'cause it just barely fits in my frame as it is. If it were
really 3" wide, it'd rub the frame.

Greg

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Post by Yell » Sat, 12 May 2001 13:10:53

Yeah, perhaps they consider the width of the tire when it's mounted on a
wider rim.  The other thing it might be is the tread width then the face
of the tire is completely flat.


Quote:


>> I'm finding that after you mount a new tire and check the width, it's a
>> lot smaller than the width they write on the sidewall. I feel a little
>> cheated. If you pay for a 2.6" wide tire I think you should get a 2.6"
>> tire. I purchased a Kenda Kollosal 24x2.6", mounted it on a 24x1" wide
>> rim with a standard 24x2.1" inner tube, and the tire measures at a
>> little under 2.5" wide.

> I don't know about standards or anything, but I've observed this with my
> Nokian Gazzaloddi. It's specced at 24x3 and it's really about 24x2.9 or
> so. That's ok by me 'cause it just barely fits in my frame as it is. If
> it were really 3" wide, it'd rub the frame.

> Greg

 
 
 

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Post by Sarah Mille » Sat, 12 May 2001 18:26:25

Quote:

> I'm finding that after you mount a new tire and check the width, it's a lot
> smaller than the width they write on the sidewall.
snip
> I understand this happens in women's fashions, but it does not happen often
> with guy's stuff.

I thought it was a bloke problem actully. Afterall  you are the ones
telling us girls that >---------------------------------< this far is six
inches. ;-)

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Post by Phil Olso » Sat, 12 May 2001 21:33:28


net.com> writes
Quote:

>> I'm finding that after you mount a new tire and check the width, it's a lot
>> smaller than the width they write on the sidewall.
>snip
>> I understand this happens in women's fashions, but it does not happen often
>> with guy's stuff.

>I thought it was a bloke problem actully. Afterall  you are the ones
>telling us girls that >---------------------------------< this far is six
>inches. ;-)

>sarah

Wow that looks a lot more  than six inches

apologies I couldn't resist
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Post by Unicor » Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:03:48

I thought that it would be a good idea to recall this old thread from
the past. I wrote Arrow Racing about thier Tires Static Width and Gus
(The owner and Designer.) gave me a nice answer.

Unicorn

Quote:

> The WB is a hi air volume tire more than PB .. as u can see
> on the diameter... the WB is an inch larger in total diameter compared
> to the PB.>

> The static width is the tire cross section( knob to knob)
> width without weight on tire for measuring frame or fork fit.
> clearance..>

> Because of the hi air volume(large casing)  of the WB the actual
> ground patch the tire imprints is 3.0" ..>

> The PB has a smaller casing but the side knobs stick out to
> give it a 2.6" static.>

> Hope this helps   thanks for your
> interest,gus/owner-designer..

> ---- Original Message -----
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:12 AM
> Subject: Tire Width Questions.

> Hi,

> I just bought several of your Wide Bite 24X3 tires. I want to order
> some more tires but I noticed that their static width is 2.5, where
> the Prime Bite 24X2.75 tire has a static width of 2.6? What exactly is
> static width?  Which tire is actually wider with more air volume, the
> Wide or Prime Bite.
> Thank you for your help.

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