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Steeper than crap!

Post by vivalarg » Sun, 30 May 2004 12:20:44


Hi,

Just started tackling the really steep bits of the single tracks here
(Santa Monica), stuff I could barely do on my mountain bike.  Feels like
peddling off a cliff, and if you go down, you'll slide or tumble for a
long ways.  Only way I've managed so far is to almost lock my Magura
brake, and even then I'm almost out of control, speed wise.

But feeling like I'm cheating with so much brake, I've tried the run out
on some of the super steep sections--without brakes--and because I must
down pressuse so *** the up stroke, it literally jacks me out of the
saddle and right off the Muni. Must be a brakeless way, but I can't
imagine the action as being anything but jerky as hell.

Someone else with more experience out there, kindly advise on proper
form, tips, etc.    

JL

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Post by mang » Sun, 30 May 2004 13:10:49

wrench on that handle and hold your ***to the seat so you dont get
thrown off. haha

John, lemme know when you're headed to see the SB crew again. I might
wanna join you. Take it easy -erik

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Post by zactor2 » Sun, 30 May 2004 19:08:57

Depending on the terrain, skidding is a very effective method when
tackling steep slopes. Every few rotations (between two and four
depending on what feels comfortable) stop pedaling in the same position
you hop. God willing you'll go into a bit of a slide which you will soon
come out of and continue down the hill. Timing is crucial for this skill
and I've found that it can't be learned, but rather you just have to
"feel it" and trust your legs to do the right thing. Also, your
technique will need to vary slightly to compensate for different terrain
and steepness. Best of luck, and be sure to let us know how it turns
out.

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Post by vivalarg » Tue, 01 Jun 2004 12:43:45

Yo, Mango:

I'm heading up to Santa Barbara next weekend.  Let's hook up.
I sent you a PM.  Don't know how it's been in San Diego, but this
weekend the local trails have been blazing hot. Cooler up in SB.

JL

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Post by teachnda » Wed, 02 Jun 2004 15:53:30

John,

I might consider lowering the tire pressure.  That might have some
effect. How low, I am not sure.  Is there any way to start the descent
on the incline vs. at the top and riding over the edge?  Maybe that is a
comprimise until a full line is completed.

Hopefully this will get more coverage once the official week begins on
Tuesday and lead to more responses.

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Post by johnfos » Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:31:21

Quote:

> *Depending on the terrain, skidding is a very effective method when
> tackling steep slopes. Every few rotations (between two and four
> depending on what feels comfortable) stop pedaling in the same
> position you hop. God willing you'll go into a bit of a slide which
> you will soon come out of and continue down the hill.*

This sounds like a lot of fun and very challenging, but it bad for the
trail. Dry trails, like most in California, are highly susceptible to
erosion which is made worse by skidding. Try not to do this on those
places that are subject to erosion. Unfortunately those are the places
that are hardest to ride down...

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Post by myocardia » Thu, 03 Jun 2004 12:31:40

Quote:
> Dry trails, like most in California, are highly susceptible to erosion
> which is made worse by skidding. Try not to do this on those places
> that are subject to erosion.

I'd like to 2nd what John said.  Being on the 'Santa Barbara Mountain
Bike Trail Volunteer Board' (http://www.sbmtv.org) I would be forced to
give you a 30 min lecture on proper trail use if I saw this kind of
activity.  :D  

JL  & Erik

I'm going to put the word out tomorrow and try to find a good riding
time for this weekend.  I'm housesitting and may have a pool available
for after the ride depending on what time we finish up.  Are you guys
available both Sat and Sunday?

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Post by mang » Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:28:07

ahh, matt. There has been some PM'ing going on between JL and i behind
the scenes. I've decided that this weekend won't be so great for me.
Thanks so much for the offer though. Thats really nice.

Hopefully i can get up to SB soon. I'll stay in touch. take care.
-erik:D

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Post by zactor2 » Thu, 03 Jun 2004 16:57:11

Quote:
> This sounds like a lot of fun and very challenging, but it bad for the
> trail. Dry trails, like most in California, are highly susceptible to
> erosion which is made worse by skidding. Try not to do this on those
> places that are subject to erosion. Unfortunately those are the places
> that are hardest to ride down...

I'll be sure to take this into account. I recently learned this skill on
a very large man made hill just outside of a ski resort. I haven't
applied it to any natural trails and thanks to your post I probably
won't. Thanks for your concern.

-Zac

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Post by vivalarg » Fri, 04 Jun 2004 06:37:44

The problem with the terrain I mentioned is we're talking about popular
XX mountain single tracks and they're already ravaged by ruts from so
much out of contol braking. Some of these sretches ar also littered with
busted MB parts. I've yet to see a super steep groomed slope, but if I
ever do I'll make sure not to try skidding.

JL

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