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Post by Peter Bi » Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:00:00


There are several things to try.

Sounds like you haven't got the best of seats.  I couldn't believe the
difference when I switched from a Savage to a viscount.  Sooo much more
comfortable.  Seat shape and design plays a big part in comfort and a badly
designed seat can definately cause crotch pain.  My advice would be to switch
seats to something like a Viscount or Miyata.  

What kind of pants are they wearing?  Jeans are terrible for riding as they
have a large thick seam right where you are sitting.  This gets very
uncomfortable after a little while.  Ideally use pants with thin seams and
fabric that isn't *** the skin.

It may pay to invest in some cycle shorts (the padded kind).  Some people
maintain they look a bit dorky but the comfort factor is well worth it.  Cycle
shorts are designed to reduce friction while providing extra padding and you
definately notice the difference.  There are also brands available now that
look like normal board shorts but have cycle shorts on the inside.  

Riding style does play a role in comfort but I think seat design and clothing
are the main factors.  When people first start out they can find riding very
uncomfortable as they are sitting on the seat wrong (this is especially a male
problem - don't sit on certain dangly bits!)  I can't speak for females but
you do adjust and figure out how to sit comfortably.

If crotch pain is still a problem you may like to try a lubrication product
like Butt'r.  (Available from unicycle source).

*****

My kids (12 year old boy, 15 yr old girl) are complaining that they are
getting very sore crotches from riding their unicycles (1.5 miles or less).  
One has a Torker unicycle with its standard issue seat, and the other has an
inexpensive seat that is banana shaped with metal guards on each end (a
Savage seat?).

Any suggestions?  Is this something that improves with time?  I'm not
experiencing this problem and don't know if it is a size/personal padding
(fat) issue.

Thanks!
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Post by Innes Dunba » Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
> It may pay to invest in some cycle shorts (the padded kind).

You can also wear cycle shorts under jeans, or normal trousers,if it is
too cold for shorts. Underwear is also made for this very problem, but
cycle shorts work well enough.

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Post by Klaas B » Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
>When people first start out they can find riding very
>uncomfortable as they are sitting on the seat wrong (this is especially a male
>problem - don't sit on certain dangly bits!)

I ride a few months now, am beginning to master the standard
freemount. Until recently I mounted while holding on to something so I
had time to adjust my certain dangly bits. With the freemount there is
no time, moreover I end up sort of on the rear end of the seat and
then "roll forward" which aggravates the issue. Not quite comfortable,
so I tend to put less weight on the seat which is no good either. Any
tips? (I had one tip to put the seat to the side of the standing leg
prior to the mount - this helped but mainly during the mount, not so
much after.)

Klaas

 
 
 

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Post by John Chil » Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>It may pay to invest in some cycle shorts (the padded kind).  Some people
>maintain they look a bit dorky but the comfort factor is well worth it.  
>Cycle shorts are designed to reduce friction while providing extra padding
>and you definately notice the difference.
>There are also brands available now that look like normal board shorts but
>have cycle shorts on the inside.

And for those new to cycling shorts they are worn without underwear
underneath.  They also need to fit snugly.  People new to cycling shorts
have a tendency to buy them about a size larger than they should.  They need
to be snug.  That's the way they are designed.  Some unicyclists wear two
layers of padded cycling shorts for extra comfort.  I've always stuck with
one layer, but two may be good for some.

Chamois Butt'r or similar product is also good if you have problems with
chafing.  Desitin Creamy diaper rash ointment is also good for helping
saddle sores heal up and is also good at preventing saddle sores from
happening in the first place.

john_childs
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Post by Nathan Hoove » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00

Good point John.  It is absolutely comical how many people I see wearing
cycling shorts (and actually cycling!) with underwear visible beneath.  They
are in for a treat if they ever figure out that the underwear should be left
home.

Your idea of wearing two pairs is good too.  Before many of us here upgraded
to Swobo Cargo shorts (inner bike short with thick, killer pad attached to
robust
outer short with pockets), we wore bike shorts under Gramicci shorts
(longish
thick cotton shorts).  The rubbing occurs between the two pairs of shorts,
rather
than between the unicycle seat and you.  One unmentionable Santa Cruzian
even has been known to wear three pairs!  But never underwear or jeans!

---Nathan


Quote:

> And for those new to cycling shorts they are worn without underwear
> underneath.  They also need to fit snugly.  People new to cycling shorts
> have a tendency to buy them about a size larger than they should.  They
need
> to be snug.  That's the way they are designed.  Some unicyclists wear two
> layers of padded cycling shorts for extra comfort.  I've always stuck with
> one layer, but two may be good for some.

[snip]

> john_childs

 
 
 

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Post by Greg Hous » Mon, 04 Dec 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>> It may pay to invest in some cycle shorts (the padded kind).

Does anyone have a good source for cycle shorts? You used to see these at
discount places like Walmart, but now that I actually WANT some, no more. My
local bike shop wants like $50-80 for a pair, which seems like a terrible
amount of money for a little s***of Spandex and some foam.

Is this a normal price? Is there a good mail-order/web dealer where I can get
something cheaper?

Greg

 
 
 

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Post by John Chil » Tue, 05 Dec 2000 04:00:00

$50 to $100 is normal for the higher quality shorts that are popular with
the serious bike riders.  Shorts for the common man can be found for less
especially when they are on sale.  Sounds like that particular bike shop
didn't carry the "lower end" clothing.  Might want to check with another
local bike shop that may have a better selection.

Some online sources for cycle clothing:
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Some notes:
REI.com is nice if you are a member of REI because you get a rebate at the
end of the year.  REI is a co-op.

The Performance and Nashbar store brand stuff is OK.  It's not always as
good or as comfortable as the name brand stuff, but it is less expensive.

Gearshopping.com covers many different retailers.  They have a bikes and
cycles section where you can find bike clothing.

Fox Racing sells their own stuff.  It's all at MSRP, I don't recall ever
seeing a sale on their site.

john_childs

Quote:
>From: Greg House

> >> It may pay to invest in some cycle shorts (the padded kind).

>Does anyone have a good source for cycle shorts? You used to see these at
>discount places like Walmart, but now that I actually WANT some, no more.
>My local bike shop wants like $50-80 for a pair, which seems like a
>terrible amount of money for a little s***of Spandex and some foam.

>Is this a normal price? Is there a good mail-order/web dealer where I can
>get something cheaper?

>Greg

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Post by Andy Arhelge » Tue, 05 Dec 2000 04:00:00

2 places to try:

www.bikenashbar.com

and

www.performancebike.com

--
Andy Arhelger


Quote:
> >> It may pay to invest in some cycle shorts (the padded kind).

> Does anyone have a good source for cycle shorts? You used to see these at
> discount places like Walmart, but now that I actually WANT some, no more. My
> local bike shop wants like $50-80 for a pair, which seems like a terrible
> amount of money for a little s***of Spandex and some foam.

> Is this a normal price? Is there a good mail-order/web dealer where I can get
> something cheaper?

> Greg

 
 
 

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Post by John Fo » Tue, 05 Dec 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
> $50 to $100 is normal for the higher quality shorts that are
> popular with the serious bike riders.  Shorts for the common
> man can be found for less especially when they are on sale.

A bit more advice: In my experience, I have found that you very much get
what you pay for with cycling shorts. My favorite pairs have usually been
the most expensive ones. Just make sure you're not paying for cool looks of
some kind. Once I bought a pair that looked like blue jeans (and they were
cheap). That was probably the worst pair I've owned.

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Post by Nathan Hoove » Tue, 05 Dec 2000 04:00:00

Exactly right.  At the end of summer you sometimes find sales at good bike
shops with 20-30% off.  That's time time to buy that expensive pair of
shorts.  I have tried several pairs of cheaper shorts, $20-$30, and they
were all ***- not worth the money.  In contrast, the old Descente shorts
lasted me YEARS and >10000 miles each - they were $60 15 years ago
and sadly aren't made any more.  In reality, they were a bargain: they cost
3x a cheap pair, but gave top performance for 3 times longer than a cheap
pair would last.  Last year I bought 3 pairs of Swobo Cargo shorts for
$57 each at a 30% off sale.  (I also bought two pairs for bicycling, $80
Pearl Izumis and $70 Bellweather Dryline Pro.)  Sure it was a lot of money,
but those will last for the next *many* years of Muni and bike rides, so
actually they were cheap.

---Nathan


Quote:
> > $50 to $100 is normal for the higher quality shorts that are
> > popular with the serious bike riders.  Shorts for the common
> > man can be found for less especially when they are on sale.

> A bit more advice: In my experience, I have found that you very much get
> what you pay for with cycling shorts. My favorite pairs have usually been
> the most expensive ones. Just make sure you're not paying for cool looks
of
> some kind. Once I bought a pair that looked like blue jeans (and they were
> cheap). That was probably the worst pair I've owned.

> Stay on top,
> John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone
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Post by Rick Bisse » Tue, 05 Dec 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
> Does anyone have a good source for cycle shorts? You used to
> see these at
> discount places like Walmart, but now that I actually WANT
> some, no more.

I have been very pleased with Performance brand bike shorts.  I have a 3 yr
old pair of their "century" brand that that are still in great shape and
very comfy.  I have also used Nashbar shorts, and Bellweather shorts priced
the same as Performance and haven't liked them as much, but they aren't too
bad... I'd  rate Nashbar a little better than Bellweather.

Sierra Trading Post also sometimes has good close-out deals on some
expensive stuff like Pearl Izumi.

-Rick