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> - Modify your seat with a gel insert. I modified one of my Viscount seats
> with a gel insert and it's much more comfortable than the stock seat.
> used to be a web page that showed how to modify a Viscount with an air
> That page has since moved and I don't know where it is now. I followed
> the instructions on that page but decided to use gel instead of an inner
> tube (gel won't get a flat and changing a flat tube in a Viscount air seat
> would be difficult). Perhaps someone knows where the Viscount air seat
> page is now.
Ok, I don't think there ever was a web page showing how to make a Viscount
air seat. It was just some posts here on RSU that described how to do it.
Here is a medly of three messages from RSU about making a Viscount air/gel
When making an air seat be careful not to overinflate the tube. It only
takes a little bit of air. Too much air and you will rip the seat cover
Use a hand pump to inflate the tube and don't use full strokes.
From: "Leo White"
Subject: Re: what air seat....
You can make your Viscount into an airseat - here's how ...
1) Undo the back screws and remove the crash guard.
2) Carefully (with patience) peel back the cover which is glued over the
foam back towards the "nose" of the saddle.
3) Cut out a section of the foam with very sharp scissors, I cut out a
largish diamond (nearly half the foam) around the weight bearing area of the
saddle and leaving the front and outer edges more or less intact. This will
leave some shape to the saddle.
4) Drill a hole thru' the base.
5) Arrange a deflated inner tube inside the space where the foam once was
(valve thru' hole in base). I used a narrow 700c which I had to hand -
others recommend smaller kids-bike tubes.
6) Stretch the cover back and glue the outside using fabric adhesive, impact
adhesive or something similar and***back the crash guard.
7) Pump up the tube and experiment with the pressure.
Miyata saddles are easier to adapt (removable foam) and lighter (but more
flexy) - again leave some of the foam to shape the nose of the saddle.
>what is the best air seat setup?
>tyre tube combo?
>and would it be a large inprovement over my viscount?
>and what about some of the new high tec. petrochemecal compounds?
>like sorbathane ect.
>some of these may work fairly well.
>any sugestions are very much appreciated
>esp.by my behind.
Subject: Re: Viscount air conversions?
Author: John Hooten
I have done an air conversion on a Viscount seat. I will describe it as best
1. Remove plastic bumpers
2. Slowly peal back leatherette cover from metal base and foam pad. The
cover is glued down with some sort of contact cement. The foam is probably
injected into a mold with the cover lining the mold. You want to be careful
here that the foam doesn't rip off in big chunks that stick to the cover. I
used an exacto knife to almost shave it off. I removed about 75% of the
edges of the saddle, but left the section on the back of the saddle attached
so that it would be earsier to line the cover up when I glued it back on.
3. Cut away foam to make room for the inner tube. I decided to use a 1.25" x
8" wheel-chair (small fromt wheel) tube. This could be pushed together in 2
sections with folds only on the ends and fit in the saddle evenly with a
slight gap between the two sides. George Peck recommends this slight gap
down the center and I strongly concur. To create the slot in the foam I used
a Dremel power hand tool (like a power drill) with a small cutting disk bit.
When the edges were cut leaving foam in place all around so that the
innertube would be surrounded by foam and the basic saddle shape would be
maintained, I pealed the section from the middle. It looked like a hot dog,
4. Drill hole for tube stem. (I put it in the center in the back)
5. Make sure there metal saddle plate where foam has been removed is covered
with tape so nothiing will puncture the tube.
6. Insert tube into saddle.
7. Stretch cover back on and glue in place with contact cenent.
8. Return saddle to unicycle.
9. Inflate tube (not too much).
This procedue was more complicated than converting a Miyata seat, but not
too difficult. I find this saddle to be very comfortanle. I have it on my
Coker. I also drilled holes in the saddles metal plate and bolted on a
Miyata handle to replace the plastic bumper. An excellent impeovement.
I understand Unicycle Source may be carrying Miyata seat parts. So you may
soon be able to get just a Miyata seat handle without having to buy the
Subject: Re: Viscount air conversions?
Yes it is possible to improve the padding in a Viscount seat. I stuffed a
gel pad in the Viscount seat that came with my Coker (I'm now using a Miyata
air seat on the Coker). I went with a gel pad in the Viscount because a gel
pad will never go flat. Reparing a flat tube in a Viscount would not be fun
because you would have to peel the whole thing apart again.
What you will need:
Sharp cuting tools like a utility knife, and other knives
A big fat gel pad for an exercise bike or a tube if you are going to do an
Thick tacky glue similar to *** cement (I think I used a thick silicon
How to do it:
1. Remove the bumpers from the seat
2. Carefully remove the cover from the seat
Start at the back and work your way forward
Important: Leave the cover still attached to the nose of the seat
3. Cut out or hollow out the center area of the foam
Leave the front, rear, and edges of the foam so you can still
keep the general shape of the viscount seat and so you will
have a place to glue the cover back to
4. If you are doing an air seat drill a hole for the tube valve
5. Stuff the center of the seat with your favorite material
6. Glue the cover back on
7. Attach the bumpers
The Viscount with a gel pad is fairly comfortable (better than the original
padding for long rides). But a Miyata air seat is better yet.